Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24178 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Since: Nov 07

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#19546 Dec 26, 2013
Jim wrote:
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This is the problem when idiot religious open their mouths without checking the facts.
Its increasingly evidence they are lying on purpose.
Their only other choice is to simply admit they have nothing but 'faith' and to admit that that 'faith' is based on nothing more than the say-so of others and words in an ancient book they have likely never even read... yet we're supposed to respect them
Jim

London, UK

#19547 Dec 26, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Their only other choice is to simply admit they have nothing but 'faith' and to admit that that 'faith' is based on nothing more than the say-so of others and words in an ancient book they have likely never even read... yet we're supposed to respect them
Yep, religious liars can't seem to understand that facts are not a "way of thinking", they're facts.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#19548 Dec 26, 2013
Jim wrote:
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This is the problem when idiot religious open their mouths without checking the facts.
Its increasingly evidence they are lying on purpose.
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Their only other choice is to simply admit they have nothing but 'faith' and to admit that that 'faith' is based on nothing more than the say-so of others and words in an ancient book they have likely never even read... yet we're supposed to respect them
Yes, indeed they are deliberately lying.

To themselves, first and foremost.

And few have read the whole bible at one go-- without any special blinders on.

Because those that have? Almost always become atheists in the end.

Of course-- since it is pretty clear that once around the racetrack is all anyone ever gets, and that there are no soul-thingies to preserve our memories after we die?

Technically speaking,**everyone** loses all faith when they die-- just as they lose all thought process and so on-- when the brain goes, so too does the person.

So you could say, that everyone becomes an atheist in the end.

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#19549 Dec 26, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Yes, indeed they are deliberately lying.
To themselves, first and foremost.
And few have read the whole bible at one go-- without any special blinders on.
Because those that have? Almost always become atheists in the end.
Of course-- since it is pretty clear that once around the racetrack is all anyone ever gets, and that there are no soul-thingies to preserve our memories after we die?
Technically speaking,**everyone** loses all faith when they die-- just as they lose all thought process and so on-- when the brain goes, so too does the person.
So you could say, that everyone becomes an atheist in the end.
<heh>
Yes... it's impossible to read the bible and come away with an image of an all powerful, all knowing and all loving 'god' unless, of course, you've got someone standing over your shoulder hand-waving away all the things that would make one cringe at he thought of the main character being something worthy of any kind of respect let alone worship.

I've always found it laughable when a 'religious leader' tries to explain what the writers actually meant when the words were being written! Like that is even remotely possible! No one knows who the original writers were. The majority of the names given to the authors were arbitrary at best. There is no other works by those writers that one could use to get a sense of who THEY were... because they are unknown! It amazes me that the bullshit that is so easily spewed by the leaders, is so unquestioningly lapped up by the believer.

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#19550 Dec 26, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Our evidence is this Universe itself.
In fact it is you people, who have no evidence as to how this universe was created.
It is you people who are illogical and unreasonable and have no base.
And instaed of feeling shame and stupidity on your part, you are just reversing it on us.!!
The existence of the universe only proves this universe can exist, it doesn't prove some invisible sky pixie made it.

Sure scientists don't know everything yet and maybe they never will but just think how little scientist knew 200 years ago and how much more they will know in 200 years time.

Just compare that to the ignorance of religions that tell us the sun sets in a muddy spring or other such nonsense. They've had to twist and turn their theologies to fend of the battering blows of reality as exposed by rational science. All they can do is grasp on to the ever diminishing gaps in our knowledge and proclaim God hides there.

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#19551 Dec 26, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Yes... it's impossible to read the bible and come away with an image of an all powerful, all knowing and all loving 'god' unless, of course, you've got someone standing over your shoulder hand-waving away all the things that would make one cringe at he thought of the main character being something worthy of any kind of respect let alone worship.
I've always found it laughable when a 'religious leader' tries to explain what the writers actually meant when the words were being written! Like that is even remotely possible! No one knows who the original writers were. The majority of the names given to the authors were arbitrary at best. There is no other works by those writers that one could use to get a sense of who THEY were... because they are unknown! It amazes me that the bullshit that is so easily spewed by the leaders, is so unquestioningly lapped up by the believer.
Smorgasbord christians

“Not everything that shines...”

Since: Aug 13

Hatch, NM

#19552 Dec 26, 2013
the 'ignorance of religion'? sure you know what you're talking about? It has been religion that has saved many of our ways of living, saved the culture. Atheist need to thank us.

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#19553 Dec 26, 2013
LuzAranda wrote:
the 'ignorance of religion'? sure you know what you're talking about? It has been religion that has saved many of our ways of living, saved the culture. Atheist need to thank us.
Murdered people forced their religion people that didn't want it and didn't need it ...
Jim

London, UK

#19554 Dec 27, 2013
LuzAranda wrote:
the 'ignorance of religion'? sure you know what you're talking about? It has been religion that has saved many of our ways of living, saved the culture. Atheist need to thank us.
The Religious Illness, means people lie about the past, present and future.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#19555 Dec 27, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
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The existence of the universe only proves this universe can exist, it doesn't prove some invisible sky pixie made it.
Sure scientists don't know everything yet and maybe they never will but just think how little scientist knew 200 years ago and how much more they will know in 200 years time.
Just compare that to the ignorance of religions that tell us the sun sets in a muddy spring or other such nonsense. They've had to twist and turn their theologies to fend of the battering blows of reality as exposed by rational science. All they can do is grasp on to the ever diminishing gaps in our knowledge and proclaim God hides there.
It is not the "existence" but being there is the first place.

How come it came there?

Has anything can come by itself and by chance?

How these laws came into existence, who made them? Did these laws also "evolved" over a period of time?

Not having answers for any of these and then keep on denying "there is no God" is stupidity of highest order.!!
Jim

London, UK

#19556 Dec 27, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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It is not the "existence" but being there is the first place.
How come it came there?
Has anything can come by itself and by chance?
How these laws came into existence, who made them? Did these laws also "evolved" over a period of time?
Not having answers for any of these and then keep on denying "there is no God" is stupidity of highest order.!!
Religious people are ignorant of science and facts. This is what keeps you running back to old myths.

Ignorance + Arrogance = Religion

Facts + Evidence = Science / Atheism
Jim

London, UK

#19557 Dec 27, 2013
Religious people keep asking Athiest "why" & "how" too lazy to study Science, thinking it is easy.

Religious people prefer the easy way - read some poetry and think you know it all.

Then judge and hate others based on your proofless 'poems'

Since: Mar 12

Mumbai, India

#19558 Dec 27, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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It is not the "existence" but being there is the first place.
How come it came there?
Has anything can come by itself and by chance?
How these laws came into existence, who made them? Did these laws also "evolved" over a period of time?
Not having answers for any of these and then keep on denying "there is no God" is stupidity of highest order.!!
"How come it came there?"
Ans:Scientists have theorized many possible causation and one of them could potentially turn out to be truth.
Among these hypotheses,God isn't favorable or popular one among scientists.So,surely God is the least possible reason behind the creation of universe although it might turn out to be true(but chances are less at least scientifically).
"Has anything can come by itself and by chance?"
Yes,why not.Only people like you think otherwise.When God can exist without any cause why not others?I have already answered many times to this inane question and the answer was "Law of Conversation of Energy".As an Engineer,you should believe in it. Since Energy can never be created,there is a good strong chance it was never created at all.And it is better to believe this than a complex concept like God that doesn't have any kind of explanation.
"How these laws came and who created them?Did these laws evolve over time?"
Natural laws have been the same since beginning.So there is no evolution of laws as you say.
These fixed laws itself shows that there is no divine intervention into universe and hence they've been able to remain rigid.No one has made "natural laws".Laws are abstract.Abstracts can only be conceived/understood in mind.So maybe the universe has a mental aspect.
There is guy called "Chris Langan"(you can google search him) who allegedly has very high IQ
came up with his theory called CTMU theory many years ago.He was a believer in God and according to him "universe is God's mind".Unfortunately,his theory wasn't recognized however I personally believe then if there is God then this guy would certainly be the only person who got it right.
His model of God is quite different from your Allah as his God can somehow withstand philosophical counter-arguments as his God doesn't need to conjure up impossible activities like virgin giving birth.

Since: Mar 12

Mumbai, India

#19559 Dec 27, 2013
Correction:There is guy called "Chris Langan"(you can google search him) who allegedly has very high IQ came up with...(read it as one para)
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#19560 Dec 27, 2013
Jim wrote:
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Religious people are ignorant of science and facts. This is what keeps you running back to old myths.
Ignorance + Arrogance = Religion
Facts + Evidence = Science / Atheism
You are wrong religious people are not ignorant of science and facts.

Most of Pillars of science were religious people.

You have no knowledge of history of sciences itself, that is why you are speaking in so absurd way.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#19561 Dec 27, 2013
PS:

There could be discussions on "Models" which most religions have about God.....there are mistakes and errors in these models.

But to deny that there is no God at all is the stupidity of highest order.

Islamic concept of God and His attributes is the Most perfect and Most reasonable and Most logical and free from errors and mistakes that people of other religions inserted into it

Since: Mar 12

Mumbai, India

#19562 Dec 27, 2013
MUQ wrote:
PS:
There could be discussions on "Models" which most religions have about God.....there are mistakes and errors in these models.
But to deny that there is no God at all is the stupidity of highest order.
Islamic concept of God and His attributes is the Most perfect and Most reasonable and Most logical and free from errors and mistakes that people of other religions inserted into it
To assert there is God would be a premature conclusion in the light of the fact that we do not know everything about universe and its beginning.Science asks for evidences and not just claims.Stupid are those who claim there is God but yet they fail to show evidences.
As far as "Models of God" is concerned,all religious models of God are wrong and self-contradictory and that leaves only Deistic model of God as one viable option worth considering.
Here is another example of your Allah's self-contradiction..
Quran says that your Allah is omniscient(as you know Allah knows everything/best) and yet he requires to test us human beings to know who is wrong or right.
Is this not contradictory?Why does he take the test of our behaviour if he knows everything?
Doesn't this make our life is without any purpose and pointless as Allah is looking for the answers that he already knows?
Do not try to qualify your religion as "error-free" on the basis of fact there is a chance of existence of God.
You have evaded one of my earlier posts in which I've cited the paradoxical nature of Quran and I'm sure you will evade this one as one well because you do not have good reasons to support your faith.
Your evasion only proves that religion is a mental diarrhoea that has no answer or explanation to any of the extraordinary claims that theists make.
It is funny how you say Islam presents the best model of God.

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Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#19563 Dec 27, 2013
rio wrote:
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There is no proof either way, but atheists want believers to prove there is a god, but exempt themselves from the same burden.
They want it both ways.
They also cannot understand that for deists, belief is based on faith; a concept they cannot grasp.
If we claimed that there was a god, it would be our responsibility to prove it. We do not make that claim, and we are not required to invest our time to prove your claims. Faith is simply wishing, it is the same as praying(wish-craft), you want this something to be real, and all you can do, is pretend it is so.
Jim

London, UK

#19564 Dec 27, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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You are wrong religious people are not ignorant of science and facts.
Most of Pillars of science were religious people.
You have no knowledge of history of sciences itself, that is why you are speaking in so absurd way.
Says the idiot with no proof of god and who denies the fact of evolution
Jim

London, UK

#19565 Dec 27, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>If we claimed that there was a god, it would be our responsibility to prove it. We do not make that claim, and we are not required to invest our time to prove your claims. Faith is simply wishing, it is the same as praying(wish-craft), you want this something to be real, and all you can do, is pretend it is so.
It almost like religious people have been sitting there all this time, thinking that the burden of proof was on atheists - due to stupidity. hope to it.

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