Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 23869 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Psychology Today.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#18917 Oct 29, 2013
spidersandsnakes wrote:
<quoted text>
The bible already had the water cycle mentioned at Ecclesiastes 1:7
Also the book even says the earth is in space laying upon nothing Job 26:7
These men knew these things before many modern scientists knew them.
These threads about religion ending etc is already foretold in the bible.
It describes false religion as the great harlot that sits on many waters , influences the people, responsible for the deaths of many, constant association with political affairs .All of this is in chapters 16,17, 18 of the bible.
It even describes how it will happen, etc
The very signs mentioned, they are happening now. The U.N which the bible depicts as the wild beast is going to destroy it, the bible says the wealth of her will be plundered, etc
Everyone will know that is from God because this will global thing. The bible describe s it in great detail .
Its sad that many people have been killed and many of the man made teachings have resorted in corruption but it is going to end.
The problems of false religion if left up to men kind would take to long to end.
You do understand that people have been saying that we are in the "end times" for centuries now, right?

But they were all wrong and you're right?

LOL…okay

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#18918 Oct 29, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
You do understand that people have been saying that we are in the "end times" for centuries now, right?
But they were all wrong and you're right?
LOL…okay
What else? His massive ego won't let him even think about anything else...

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#18919 Oct 30, 2013
spidersandsnakes wrote:
<quoted text>
The bible already had the water cycle mentioned at Ecclesiastes 1:7
Also the book even says the earth is in space laying upon nothing Job 26:7
These men knew these things before many modern scientists knew them.
These threads about religion ending etc is already foretold in the bible.
It describes false religion as the great harlot that sits on many waters , influences the people, responsible for the deaths of many, constant association with political affairs .All of this is in chapters 16,17, 18 of the bible.
It even describes how it will happen, etc
The very signs mentioned, they are happening now. The U.N which the bible depicts as the wild beast is going to destroy it, the bible says the wealth of her will be plundered, etc
Everyone will know that is from God because this will global thing. The bible describe s it in great detail .
Its sad that many people have been killed and many of the man made teachings have resorted in corruption but it is going to end.
The problems of false religion if left up to men kind would take to long to end.
Stupid religious liars trying to work backwards from proven science, to make their ignorant cult fit the facts...

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#18920 Oct 30, 2013
LCNlin wrote:
The Lords Spiritual
26 bishops of the Church of England sit in the House of Lords. Known as the Lords Spiritual, they read prayers at the start of each daily meeting and play a full and active role in the life and work of the Upper House.
God Save the Queen !
26 Bishops out of 300 seats. And even those seats are there because of old laws!!!

And this is supposed to defend your proofless cult???
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#18921 Nov 2, 2013
spidersandsnakes wrote:
<quoted text>
The bible already had the water cycle mentioned at Ecclesiastes 1:7
Also the book even says the earth is in space laying upon nothing Job 26:7
..
So these two "scientific verses" in Bible, explain wvery thing? What about opening verses of Genesis that described creation process in six days?

Why be selective? You should take all verses of Bible, they came from same source? did they not?

Why Scientific and Non Scientific verses are found in the same collection?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#18922 Nov 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
So these two "scientific verses" in Bible, explain wvery thing? What about opening verses of Genesis that described creation process in six days?
Why be selective? You should take all verses of Bible, they came from same source? did they not?
Why Scientific and Non Scientific verses are found in the same collection?
Why type? when you have no proof of god, troll?

Since: Mar 12

Mumbai, India

#18923 Nov 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
So these two "scientific verses" in Bible, explain wvery thing? What about opening verses of Genesis that described creation process in six days?
Why be selective? You should take all verses of Bible, they came from same source? did they not?
Why Scientific and Non Scientific verses are found in the same collection?
Let's have few scientific verses from Quran,please.
spider

Cambridge, UK

#18924 Nov 2, 2013
fadu singh wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's have few scientific verses from Quran,please.
Smoke and mirrors is as close as it will get.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#18925 Nov 2, 2013
fadu singh wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's have few scientific verses from Quran,please.
All this claimed science yet no papers and no evidence of anything scientifically accurate

Since: Mar 12

Mumbai, India

#18926 Nov 2, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
All this claimed science yet no papers and no evidence of anything scientifically accurate
Of course,but you know they take full advantage of people who don't know Arabic and make those verses seem scientific and infallible.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#18927 Nov 2, 2013
fadu singh wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course,but you know they take full advantage of people who don't know Arabic and make those verses seem scientific and infallible.
Stupid people sell their stupid to more stupid, and thats why we have cults all over the earth.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#18928 Nov 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
...Why be selective?...
Asks the master of selectivity

The Muslim faith can't withstand cartoons...
https://www.google.co.uk/search...

Religion = superstition
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#18929 Nov 2, 2013
fadu singh wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's have few scientific verses from Quran,please.
Quran is filled with scientific verses. There are close to a thousand verses that ask humans to reflect on things of nature.

But the Quranic approach is different, it has not come to teach us science or MAthematics.

It just wants to increase our curiosity , the aim is to find the Power, Knowledge and Mercy of the Creator, who is behind every thing.

Just to get knowledge how things are working, does not help humankind, as those who have 'little knowledge" about these things, get pumped up and deny even the existence of Creator, a most unreasonable and illogical approach.

Since: Mar 12

Mumbai, India

#18930 Nov 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Quran is filled with scientific verses. There are close to a thousand verses that ask humans to reflect on things of nature.
But the Quranic approach is different, it has not come to teach us science or MAthematics.
It just wants to increase our curiosity , the aim is to find the Power, Knowledge and Mercy of the Creator, who is behind every thing.
Just to get knowledge how things are working, does not help humankind, as those who have 'little knowledge" about these things, get pumped up and deny even the existence of Creator, a most unreasonable and illogical approach.
MUQ,the so called scientific verses seem to be metaphors that can be interpreted in so many different ways.Yet Muslims choose those meanings which suits their purpose.
The bottomline is when those verses are read in literal manner they still do make sense but there would be nothing scientific about it.
If they are taken literally,they do match up with old erroneous notions about earth and nature that were pervasive during those times.And what further weakens the Muslims position of defence is they did not have any idea about those supposed miraculous verses until some French doctor named Bucaille found them during his career in "Saudi Arabia".
This raises an obvious doubt as to why did Arabs for so long time couldn't find out these verses in scientific manner given the fact that the Quran was written in Arabic and they were Arabs?
Contd..
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#18932 Nov 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>....[constant superstitious drivel].....
Religion = superstition
Theology = mythology

From the comedy series "Yes Prime Minister"...
"Theology is a device for helping agnostics to stay within the Church of England."
And
"The Queen is inseparable from the Church of England. God is an optional extra."

Many a true word is spoken in jest.

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#18934 Nov 3, 2013
DavidQuinn wrote:
Sadly i think it'll be 2138 before any progress to this end. I wish i had Jean-Paul sartre's attitude to religion, a man so thoroughly atheist he deemed the whole subject beneath his intelligence to consider. Simply religion is divisive and restricts us as a species, simple as that. Check out a book that's causing a bit of a buzz in the Uk called 2082 the chronicles of hope. On the website the 1st chapter for the 1st book is on there for free, there's a speech in there by an atheist politician that's genius
And here I thought you were a Mormon.

Now I realize you're just a bad writer.
spider

Cambridge, UK

#18935 Nov 3, 2013
DavidQuinn wrote:
Sadly i think it'll be 2138 before any progress to this end. I wish i had Jean-Paul sartre's attitude to religion, a man so thoroughly atheist he deemed the whole subject beneath his intelligence to consider. Simply religion is divisive and restricts us as a species, simple as that. Check out a book that's causing a bit of a buzz in the Uk called 2082 the chronicles of hope. On the website the 1st chapter for the 1st book is on there for free, there's a speech in there by an atheist politician that's genius
Rubbish,,, in order to reject something, we at first have to consider it, even if only briefly.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#18936 Nov 4, 2013
spider wrote:
<quoted text>
Rubbish,,, in order to reject something, we at first have to consider it, even if only briefly.
To consider it, we require evidence and that where you liars fail.
spider

Cambridge, UK

#18937 Nov 4, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
To consider it, we require evidence and that where you liars fail.
What are you talking about, Show me any post were I have lied.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#18938 Nov 4, 2013
FS wrote:
01. MUQ, the so called scientific verses seem to be metaphors that can be interpreted in so many different ways. Yet Muslims choose those meanings which suits their purpose.

02. The bottomline is when those verses are read in literal manner they still do make sense but there would be nothing scientific about it.

03. If they are taken literally, they do match up with old erroneous notions about earth and nature that were pervasive during those times. And what further weakens the Muslims position of defence is they did not have any idea about those supposed miraculous verses until some French doctor named Bucaille found them during his career in "Saudi Arabia".

04. This raises an obvious doubt as to why did Arabs for so long time couldn't find out these verses in scientific manner given the fact that the Quran was written in Arabic and they were Arabs?
Contd..
Ans.

01. Your post is based on many wrong assumptions and misconceptions. I told you in the beginning that Quran did not came to teach us science and Engineering.

It is a book for guidance for humanity as to how to pass their test of their lives. One of the topic is Attributes of Creator and His power and knowledge. In order to tell people about His uniqueness and Power and Mercy, Quran draws attention to so many things scattered around humans for his benefit and his survival on this planet.

02. The verses are for people of all ages and times, you just talk about your present times, may be in a couple of centuries, most of concept what we have would become outdated. But Quran would be "current" even in those times!!

03. There is nothing "erroneous" in Quranic description of things in nature. May be the earlier commentators translated them with "their own knowledge of the time". But the original Arabic words used have different shades of meanings.

It was not only because of Maurice Buccaile that scientific nature of these Quranic verses came into light.

04. Arabs rose to great heights when they were following Quran into their lives and when they started playing lip service to islam and Quran, that was their down fall.

PS:

As an example, I would like you to read "The version of Creation as recorded in the opening verses of Book of Genesis.

Here the whole process is described in much detail and what was created on which day. In past centuries, it would look "very scientific" but now, no one dare defend it.

But when Quran defines the process of Creation, the words "Six days" are used, but the detail is missing!!

What prevented our prophet to "omit" the detail? Was it chance?

There are many examples when we compare Quranic version versus other scriptures.

Quran keeps pace with science while other scriptures are lagging behind.

Why? Because Quran is preserved in its pristine condition in the language it was revealed, while other scriptures have been either translated or got corrupted or words of humans got mixed with Divine words.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Atheism Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News "Science vs. Religion: What Scientists Really T... (Jan '12) 30 min Aura Mytha 34,931
News Your atheism isn&#x27;t going to keep your... (Apr '14) 1 hr ATHEOI 197
News Why I quit atheism 1 hr ATHEOI 280
Majority of Scots now have no religion 1 hr Eagle 12 158
Religion is the cause of war and most suffering... 1 hr Reason Personified 148
News Atheism, for Good Reason, Fears Questions (Jun '09) 2 hr scientia potentia... 14,928
News Atheists Aren't the Problem, Christian Intolera... (Oct '14) 2 hr Eagle 12 20,059
More from around the web