Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24182 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Thinking

Royston, UK

#18688 Oct 3, 2013
You forgot shooting children in their face.
MUQ wrote:
Qualities of a True Prophet of God:
R. Eighteenth Quality: The age of Prophethood has come to an end:
This is again a controversial subject and I do not demand that every one must accept it.
The reality is that age of prophethood has come to an end and no significant prophet has risen in the world for past 1400 years. There have only been localized movements where some one claimed prophet hood, but it was never a Universal phenomenon and no major religion has come into the world since that date.
Many people might not agree with me and I do not find fault with them when I say that closing the door of Prophethood was indeed an act of Mercy by the Most Merciful and Most Gracious God, because it saved human society forever from deciding on every “New” prophet!!
As mentioned earlier, A prophet lives as long as his message and his teachings are alive, and it so happened that Life and Teachings and Message of the Last Prophet in the chain was preserved intact and in Great Details for succeeding generation.
Every one can close the time gap and listen to the message which was given 1400 years back in the same language and verbatim without any change. So in reality The Last Prophet is living and talking before them and there is no excuse for them to say to God that they did not get the message.
In other words we can say that Last and Final Prophet of God is still alive and living with us, because of the detailed and minute information which we have about him than any other personality in this world.
It is only for people to ask and seek and they will get the info…. So no one shall have excuse before God that sufficient info was not available to them.
Dak-Original

Sheffield, UK

#18689 Oct 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Qualities of a True Prophet of God:
R. Eighteenth Quality: The age of Prophethood has come to an end:
This is again a controversial subject and I do not demand that every one must accept it.
The reality is that age of prophethood has come to an end and no significant prophet has risen in the world for past 1400 years. There have only been localized movements where some one claimed prophet hood, but it was never a Universal phenomenon and no major religion has come into the world since that date.
Many people might not agree with me and I do not find fault with them when I say that closing the door of Prophethood was indeed an act of Mercy by the Most Merciful and Most Gracious God, because it saved human society forever from deciding on every “New” prophet!!
As mentioned earlier, A prophet lives as long as his message and his teachings are alive, and it so happened that Life and Teachings and Message of the Last Prophet in the chain was preserved intact and in Great Details for succeeding generation.
Every one can close the time gap and listen to the message which was given 1400 years back in the same language and verbatim without any change. So in reality The Last Prophet is living and talking before them and there is no excuse for them to say to God that they did not get the message.
In other words we can say that Last and Final Prophet of God is still alive and living with us, because of the detailed and minute information which we have about him than any other personality in this world.
It is only for people to ask and seek and they will get the info…. So no one shall have excuse before God that sufficient info was not available to them.
Every twist and trick to suit his belief! OH! MUQ!
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#18690 Oct 3, 2013
It says in the NT that a house divided against itself will not stand. This describes Christianity. Every time somebody comes up with a new theology, they write a new version of the bible. The NT says whatever you want it to say. It is also "wind and confusion" anyway. Jesus is not God, he is the modern day idol of Israel and he is prophesied in the OT as such. The final prophet, the Messiah is here on earth and will appear at any moment. Everyone in the world will convert to either Christianity (sons of darkness) or the Truth (sons of light). We will all witness the bible (OT) completely and literally fulfilled.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#18691 Oct 3, 2013
susanblange wrote:
It says in the NT that a house divided against itself will not stand. This describes Christianity. Every time somebody comes up with a new theology, they write a new version of the bible. The NT says whatever you want it to say. It is also "wind and confusion" anyway. Jesus is not God, he is the modern day idol of Israel and he is prophesied in the OT as such. The final prophet, the Messiah is here on earth and will appear at any moment. Everyone in the world will convert to either Christianity (sons of darkness) or the Truth (sons of light). We will all witness the bible (OT) completely and literally fulfilled.
I see you have been good, and earned some time on the institution's public computer again.

It's time for your medication, though.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#18692 Oct 3, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
I see you have been good, and earned some time on the institution's public computer again.
It's time for your medication, though.
I haven't been in a hospital since January, 1986. 27 years. But the doctors love to study me, I'm a worldwide famous case history since the early eighties, under a pseudonym of course. I am not delusional. I've had the best medical care and my doctors conclusion after his presentation on me was "You can't change character" I happen to disagree but I cannot be changed. "...For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed" Malachi 3:6. It's been just over 30 years since my calling began ....so anytime now.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#18693 Oct 3, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I haven't been in a hospital since January, 1986. 27 years. But the doctors love to study me, I'm a worldwide famous case history since the early eighties, under a pseudonym of course. I am not delusional. I've had the best medical care and my doctors conclusion after his presentation on me was "You can't change character" I happen to disagree but I cannot be changed. "...For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed" Malachi 3:6. It's been just over 30 years since my calling began ....so anytime now.
.... aaaaaand the schizophrenia returns in full force...

.... you desperately need to go back to hospital.

And thanks to Obamacare? It'll be paid for this time around...

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#18694 Oct 3, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I haven't been in a hospital since January, 1986. 27 years. But the doctors love to study me, I'm a worldwide famous case history since the early eighties, under a pseudonym of course. I am not delusional. I've had the best medical care and my doctors conclusion after his presentation on me was "You can't change character" I happen to disagree but I cannot be changed. "...For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed" Malachi 3:6. It's been just over 30 years since my calling began ....so anytime now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah....you've said all this before.

It was a boring lie then, its a boring lie now.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#18695 Oct 4, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
.... aaaaaand the schizophrenia returns in full force...
.... you desperately need to go back to hospital.
And thanks to Obamacare? It'll be paid for this time around...
In the future, governments will look back at this era and wonder how they let so many mentally ill people destroy society.

There will be clinics where chronic religious liars can get help, like AA, but without the made up higher power.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#18696 Oct 4, 2013
http://www.justgiving.com/nofaithschools/eurl...
The British Humanist Association employs the only campaigner working full time against ‘faith’ schools and their discrimination in admissions, employment and the curriculum
MUQ

Lucknow, India

#18697 Oct 4, 2013
Qualities of a True Prophet of God:

S. Nineteenth Quality: Duties of a Prophet:

General duties of a True Prophet of God are:

a. Deliver The Divine Message:

To deliver the message they receive from God and to explain it and answer any honest queries about it.(Not to engage in Every Debate and answer Every Question with those who raise queries and objections for the sake of fun, ridicule and idle discussions).

b. Demonstrate Application of Divine Law thru Personal Example:

By their personal conduct demonstrate how Divine Law is implemented in human society.

c. Build Up Faith of Sincere Followers:

To Purify and Sanctify those who accept their message and became their followers and helpers in propagating this message.

Prophets teach and guide these sincere followers and they in turn become guides to those who are not present.

Prophets and their message live thru the lives and actions of their followers. And it is by the action of their followers and those who come after them that prophet’s Names, Lives and Teachings obtain immorality. The prophets whom no one knows is only because their followers and those coming after them did not preserve their memory.

d. Interpret Divine Law:

To act as Law Giver to the society in the capacity of God’ Official Interpreters of Divine Law. They are authorized to make by laws and laws that are based on the guidance they receive from God thru Revelation.

e. Form a Society or Nation of Believers:

To build a human society that is run on the principles and guidance they receive from God. To defend the society from outside attacks and those who try to subvert it.

f. Nurture a Pius Society:

To oversee that Goodness and Piety increases in the society and Evilness and Evil acts are either removed or brought to their lowest level.

g. Judge between Disputes according to Divine Law:

To act as judge between the disputes and give judgment based on Divine law and see that it is enforced on land.

S1. Does every Prophet do all these?

These are general duties of Prophets of God, each and every prophet need not have to do all these duties, it depends on the mission they get from God and how many trusted followers they got during their mission.

S2. Should we rate prophets on the basis of their duties and successes?

And as explained earlier, we do not rate prophets on the basis of what worldly success they got. Every prophet is successful in the eyes of God, because he did his job.

The real gainer and losers are the people who received the guidance from prophets.
If they accepted it, they are successful in the hereafter, if they rejected it, they are real losers.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#18698 Oct 5, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Qualities of a True Prophet of God:
S. Nineteenth Quality: Duties of a Prophet:
General duties of a True Prophet of God are:
a. Deliver The Divine Message:
To deliver the message they receive from God and to explain it and answer any honest queries about it.(Not to engage in Every Debate and answer Every Question with those who raise queries and objections for the sake of fun, ridicule and idle discussions).
b. Demonstrate Application of Divine Law thru Personal Example:
By their personal conduct demonstrate how Divine Law is implemented in human society.
c. Build Up Faith of Sincere Followers:
To Purify and Sanctify those who accept their message and became their followers and helpers in propagating this message.
Prophets teach and guide these sincere followers and they in turn become guides to those who are not present.
Prophets and their message live thru the lives and actions of their followers. And it is by the action of their followers and those who come after them that prophet’s Names, Lives and Teachings obtain immorality. The prophets whom no one knows is only because their followers and those coming after them did not preserve their memory.
d. Interpret Divine Law:
To act as Law Giver to the society in the capacity of God’ Official Interpreters of Divine Law. They are authorized to make by laws and laws that are based on the guidance they receive from God thru Revelation.
e. Form a Society or Nation of Believers:
To build a human society that is run on the principles and guidance they receive from God. To defend the society from outside attacks and those who try to subvert it.
f. Nurture a Pius Society:
To oversee that Goodness and Piety increases in the society and Evilness and Evil acts are either removed or brought to their lowest level.
g. Judge between Disputes according to Divine Law:
To act as judge between the disputes and give judgment based on Divine law and see that it is enforced on land.
S1. Does every Prophet do all these?
These are general duties of Prophets of God, each and every prophet need not have to do all these duties, it depends on the mission they get from God and how many trusted followers they got during their mission.
S2. Should we rate prophets on the basis of their duties and successes?
And as explained earlier, we do not rate prophets on the basis of what worldly success they got. Every prophet is successful in the eyes of God, because he did his job.
The real gainer and losers are the people who received the guidance from prophets.
If they accepted it, they are successful in the hereafter, if they rejected it, they are real losers.
Religious spam has never converted anyone.

If you want your mental illness to get respect, you need to prove what it claims.

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#18699 Oct 7, 2013
Hi fellow Atheists, I'm closing my account on THIS thread as it (FINALLY) APPEARS that we have convinced Godbots of their error in believing in a God or Gods. A mechanical engineer friend of mine always said that gentle tapping moves mountains. I can certainly apply that idea to our success here, in that continually repeating the truth, DOES eventually penetrate. I've witnessed many contributors here that personally speaking, I have classed as ranting idiots. But they have long gone to pastures new. I bid you all farewell & thanks for offering me an interest in the otherwise boring Internet.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#18700 Oct 7, 2013
"Around 400 schoolchildren – mainly girls from South Asian communities - are forced into marriage every year in the UK, according to official Government figures."
http://www.itv.com/news/2013-10-06/uk-imams-a...

All the best Jack. People say they're going and we all get bored by Topix sometimes. Maybe you'll still drop-in occasionally.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#18701 Oct 7, 2013
British Expat wrote:
Religious monkeys are the root of all evil, that is a FACT!
Sadly for the moment the human monkey is "easily led". But live in hope. Intellegence might yet surpass superstition?
Actually NO Adolf hitler was atheist. the soviet union , north Korea etc....

Atheism and religion are basically the same. Both of them carry on man made traditions even though they both n=know they have nothing to with god,for ex
halloween,birthdays and christmas.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#18702 Oct 7, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
In the future, governments will look back at this era and wonder how they let so many mentally ill people destroy society.
There will be clinics where chronic religious liars can get help, like AA, but without the made up higher power.
In the future their will be no goverments. No no religion means no economy. Do you know how much religion brings in each year? No birthdays,christmas,halloween, thanksgiving,etc

Literally every aspect of human society has pegan and religious origins... our week days and months etc

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#18703 Oct 7, 2013
spidersandsnakes wrote:
<quoted text>
In the future their will be no goverments. No no religion means no economy. Do you know how much religion brings in each year? No birthdays,christmas,halloween, thanksgiving,etc
Literally every aspect of human society has pegan and religious origins... our week days and months etc
LOL...I hate to break it to you, but I'm an atheist and I still have birthdays.

WTF are you talking about?

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#18704 Oct 7, 2013
spidersandsnakes wrote:
<quoted text>
In the future their will be no goverments. No no religion means no economy. Do you know how much religion brings in each year? No birthdays,christmas,halloween, thanksgiving,etc
Literally every aspect of human society has pegan and religious origins... our week days and months etc
PS - don't use the word "literally" if you don't know what it means...

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#18705 Oct 8, 2013
spidersandsnakes wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually NO Adolf hitler was atheist. the soviet union , north Korea etc....
Atheism and religion are basically the same. Both of them carry on man made traditions even though they both n=know they have nothing to with god,for ex
halloween,birthdays and christmas.
Spidersandsnakes lies about hitler's religion because he is a religious liar for his creationist cult:

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people."

-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#18706 Oct 8, 2013
spidersandsnakes wrote:
<quoted text>
In the future their will be no goverments. No no religion means no economy. Do you know how much religion brings in each year? No birthdays,christmas,halloween, thanksgiving,etc
Literally every aspect of human society has pegan and religious origins... our week days and months etc
Nobody trusts a creationist liars's opinions about anything. You have only yourselves to thank for this...
MUQ

Allahabad, India

#18707 Oct 10, 2013
Qualities of a True Prophet of God:

T. Twentieth Quality:

What We Owe to the Prophets?

It is not in fact any Quality of Prophet, but concluding part of my list.(MUQ)

Considering the fact that Prophets of God are our Real and Greatest Benefactors and they are source of each and every Goodness and Kindness and Morality and Righteousness which we see on this earth, there are duties on each one of us to these prophets.

I list some of them based on my limited knowledge:

a. Love Them:

We should love the Prophets of God and this love should be from the deepest depth of our hearts. It should not be only for show and only from lips. In fact the love of Prophets should mean more to us than even our own lives.

b. Respect and Revere them:

We should respect and revere them and honor them. That is why we Muslims use the words “Peace be upon him”(PBUH) or “Peace be upon them”(PBUT) when we take the name of any prophet or group of prophets. This show of honor should also be from our hearts and not only from lips or hypocrisy.

c. Accept their Teachings:

We should accept the Guidance and Message brought by the prophets, and should not say or do any thing which goes against this guidance and message.

d. Follow their teachings:

We should try our best to cultivate all the positive qualities that these prophets want us to have and shun all the negative qualities and acts which the prophets prohibit.

And these should not be only on the surface but from deep commitment. It is really a test to see how committed we are to the prophets.

e. Do not rate Man-Made theories above Theirs:

We should no not put any teachings or any philosophy or any theory that contradicts or goes against the teachings of prophets and his message. Because no human theory, logic or philosophy can take the place of Divine Guidance.

f. Defend their teachings:

We should be ready to defend the teachings of prophets from attacks to the best of our abilities. The attacks could be from inside and / or from outside. The attack could be verbal or physical. Followers of prophets should be ready for both type of attacks and should be ready for any sacrifice that is needed for it.

Our energies and our resources and our lives, every thing should be devoted to this struggle. This will be a litmus test as to how sincere followers we are of prophets or do we come under the title of “Those with little faith” or “O Hypocrites”.

g. Be United and Steadfast in our struggle against falsehood:

We should present a united front to our enemies and do not be divided and fight within ourselves. These internal fights damage us more than outside attacks of our enemies and bring dishonor and insults on us, in this world as well as in the hereafter.

These are some of the duties which we owe to our prophets, let every one of us look at it and place his or her position in this chart.

Allah Knows Best

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