Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24182 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Since: Jun 07

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#18647 Sep 26, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Our purpose of discussion is that we should know what are the qualities of a True Prophet of God.
So we can find out if any person is a True Prophet of God or not.
First we have to understand these qualities, unless the list is finished, it is premature to discuss any names.
This is what I am repeating for the umpteenth time and I fail to understand why it is so difficult to understand.
There's no such thing as god. Try proving that before lying about prophets etc.
reasoner

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#18648 Sep 26, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Qualities of a True Prophet of God:
P. Sixteenth Quality: How Were Prophets Treated by People?
Even though prophets of God were men of highest moral character, asked no worldly reward from people and had no personal interests, and their only concern was that the people should walk in the True Path of God, they did not met with Universal approval from their country men.
If you read the old testament you would see that the so called prophets are far from having the highest moral character. The people of Canaan were by all accounts just and moral people living in a peaceful manner. This was before the hero of the Bible and the Quran, Moses, arrived with the Israelites. According to the highly dubious accounts of the Bible, the peaceful inhabitants of Canaan were subject to an unprovoked holy war of ferocity and barbarity beyond comprehension. The god-sactioned jihad of the old testament has the Israelites going from city to city killing "everything that breathes" including women, children and animals. Except in some areas they would take the virgin girls and animals as war booty. The cruelty of these "prophets" and their followers causes revulsion in any sane person. And of course the legends of murder and rape are not restricted to the Bible, they are repeated by Muhammed and his followers with Islam. Although these accounts are largely or wholly fictional no right minded person can think of such stories as anything but revolting tales made up by vile, cruel and violent psychopaths.
spider

Cambridge, UK

#18649 Sep 26, 2013
fadu singh wrote:
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MUQ,what is the purpose of our discussion?Weren't we supposed to discuss on the veracity of prophets?
You have posted so many posts on Qualities on prophet,which you're supposed to do;but what is the use if you don't mention any sources?
If I were to post "qualities of false prophets" and make your prophets look bad,would you accept it without any questions and asking for proofs?
How can I know if the posts that you're posting are valid?
PS:Why don't you want to "not post" about the people I've been asking for?Just give me assurance that you would give answers to my questions,sooner or later.
I think we are all wasting our time talking to Muq, he never gives a straight answer and continualy dodges questions, as you pointed out to me some time ago.

I suggest he watches Monty pythons LIFE OF BRIAN,, as this is far closer to the truth.
Thinking

Royston, UK

#18650 Sep 26, 2013
Excuse me, Muq. Is this the Wahabi People's Front?
F*ck off!'Wahabi People's Front'. We're the People's Front of Wahab!'Wahabi People's Front'...
Wankers.
spider wrote:
<quoted text>
I think we are all wasting our time talking to Muq, he never gives a straight answer and continualy dodges questions, as you pointed out to me some time ago.
I suggest he watches Monty pythons LIFE OF BRIAN,, as this is far closer to the truth.
spider

Cambridge, UK

#18651 Sep 26, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Excuse me, Muq. Is this the Wahabi People's Front?
F*ck off!'Wahabi People's Front'. We're the People's Front of Wahab!'Wahabi People's Front'...
Wankers.
<quoted text>
Chuckle :-)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#18652 Sep 26, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>As I say, confronting the madness.
I think we demonstrate when religionists fail to comprehend simple facts like the difference between a belief and disbelief and the significance of Russell’s Teapot. Some cannot understand the moral difference between eating meat for nourishment and animal sacrifice to religion. They cannot see the absurdity of believing a god sent a prophet to Earth and that religions are generally parent-given.
I think it's usually a mistake for us to say they're stupid or lying because we may look to the dispassionate observer like people who cannot differentiate between people who are sincere and mistaken and those who are intentionally deceitful.
(My reply to Rio, 18636 above, looks to me as though it might be auto-deleted)
You are correct-- it **is** over the top for the majority of people, to call them liars.

They are simply deluded by what they were told by people they couldn't help but to trust.

Alas, the trust was misplaced, of course.

On the other hand? Godbots on Topix **have** been shown the error of their non-arguments.

And they continue as if nothing was ever said about them--

--- those people **are** lying. Deliberately so.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#18653 Sep 26, 2013
EdSed wrote:
I may have to stop attending Topix. They're currently running VERY intrusive adverts that interfere with the left of the screen and my ability to view posts.
Go to either Chrome or Firefox, and install NoScript.

It's what I use-- I see only about 5% of the ads, and none of the blinking/in-your-face ones at all.
MUQ

Delhi, India

#18654 Sep 27, 2013
reasoner wrote:
<quoted text>
If you read the old testament you would see that the so called prophets are far from having the highest moral character. The people of Canaan were by all accounts just and moral people living in a peaceful manner. This was before the hero of the Bible and the Quran, Moses, arrived with the Israelites. According to the highly dubious accounts of the Bible, the peaceful inhabitants of Canaan were subject to an unprovoked holy war of ferocity and barbarity beyond comprehension. The god-sactioned jihad of the old testament has the Israelites going from city to city killing "everything that breathes" including women, children and animals. Except in some areas they would take the virgin girls and animals as war booty. The cruelty of these "prophets" and their followers causes revulsion in any sane person. And of course the legends of murder and rape are not restricted to the Bible, they are repeated by Muhammed and his followers with Islam. Although these accounts are largely or wholly fictional no right minded person can think of such stories as anything but revolting tales made up by vile, cruel and violent psychopaths.
They have tarnished the character of every prophet of God and wrote many scandalous stories about them.

But if you read Quran, you will find that no such story is told about ANY prophet.

There is so much difference between the stories mentioned in Quran and those in Bible, that if the names were not same, people would think that they are two different set of people.

If you want to know about prophet, you should read Quran and not Bible.
reasoner

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#18655 Sep 27, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
If you want to know about prophet, you should read Quran and not Bible.
Hi Muq, I have read some of the Quran, and the stories of prophets are generally less violent than the old testament (which is a good thing). However, the Quran faces the same problems as the Bible.

The Quran is written in the third person, not the first person. God and Muhammed are written about in the third person, not the first person. There is good reason for this. It was not written by Muhammed. It was collated after his death by his followers, and put together by various people. So effectively it is an anonymous document put together by unknown sources by unknown people. Just like the books in the Bible.

As the revelation is not given directly to me, I do not need to believe it. In fact the revelation is coming third, fouth, fifth hand? who knows. Its anyones guess how it was put together.

Is a God or gods were to give us a revelation a better way of doing this would be to give us all a revelation directly. All people in the world from every country and culture would all agree on the same religion and the existence of God would not be in doubt. Instead we have competing and contradictory so called revelations, by so called prophets, holy men and saints throughout history. Such people claim to hear the voice of God, or differing gods. Some ppl claim to see the virgin Mary in visions, they write divinely inspired messages, speak in tongues or witness miracles. This does not happen to normal people as a species we are becoming less superstitious and less prone to religious delusion.
reasoner

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#18656 Sep 27, 2013
^ correction: IF a God or gods were to give us a revelation, a better way of doing this would be to give us all a revelation directly, into our brains, this would by pass the need for prophets or priests."
Dak-Original

Belfast, UK

#18657 Sep 27, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
They have tarnished the character of every prophet of God and wrote many scandalous stories about them.
But if you read Quran, you will find that no such story is told about ANY prophet.
There is so much difference between the stories mentioned in Quran and those in Bible, that if the names were not same, people would think that they are two different set of people.
If you want to know about prophet, you should read Quran and not Bible.
but but MUQ! Was it you who told all the Quaran endorsed all the prophets up till the self declared last Prophet? OH! MUQ!
henry

Rosa, Germany

#18658 Sep 27, 2013
Dak-Original wrote:
<quoted text>
"Fear GOD" could only be written by those who had experienced a tyrant ruler!
.
"Fear of God" is silly! God can not be feared because he is nonexistent. Very few men (and women of course too!)are speaking of a Phantom. Really, billions of peoples are hunting a myth. They are not educated enough to realise this.
henry

Rosa, Germany

#18659 Sep 27, 2013
reasoner wrote:
<quoted text>
And shooting dead mothers in front of their children. It is a very very sick world we live in. And this type of terrorism is unfortunately set to continue as long as people are brainwashed into extremist religion.
So religions in public must be forbidden. Religions are extremely dangerous for the further existence of the human race.
True Christian witness

Slick, OK

#18660 Sep 27, 2013
All false religion will be gone off this earth along with every ungodly person at Armageddon, the end of this world ruled by Satan the Devil. 2Peter 3:7

Only the honest and meek people who know, love and serve Almighty God Jehovah will be left over in it, everyone else who is unrighteous will be removed from this earth.
Proverbs 2:21,22
Matthew 5:5

Now is the time to start your Bible study with Jehovah's witnesses to be educated in accurate knowledge of God's will for these last days of this unrighteous world.
Matthew 24:14

Get your Bible out and start reading the Gospels from Matthew, see what it means to be a true Christian imitator of Jesus. Read your Bible every day, and write down your questions to ask Jehovah's witnesses.
See what the Bible is really teaching us today.
John 17:17
henry

Germany

#18661 Sep 27, 2013
reasoner wrote:
<quoted text>
And shooting dead mothers in front of their children. It is a very very sick world we live in. And this type of terrorism is unfortunately set to continue as long as people are brainwashed into extremist religion.
This Kind of System we will no longer have to sustaine in a nuclear world. We are not ripe for a further existance of a such barbaric inhuman vegetating. Even the small Group of billionairs will not survive.
henry

Germany

#18662 Sep 27, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
All religion is extremism. Its extremist to believe in something that isn't there, yet controls the whole damn universe.
Governments should do more to protect citizens from mentally ill religious folk who harbor supernatural motives.
In this System it is of no use anymore in an atomic age. The catastrophe of Fukushima is coming very soon to an end with humanity. Japan one of the most powerful nations is helpless.
henry

Germany

#18663 Sep 27, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>As I say, confronting the madness.
I think we demonstrate when religionists fail to comprehend simple facts like the difference between a belief and disbelief and the significance of Russell’s Teapot. Some cannot understand the moral difference between eating meat for nourishment and animal sacrifice to religion. They cannot see the absurdity of believing a god sent a prophet to Earth and that religions are generally parent-given.
I think it's usually a mistake for us to say they're stupid or lying because we may look to the dispassionate observer like people who cannot differentiate between people who are sincere and mistaken and those who are intentionally deceitful.
(My reply to Rio, 18636 above, looks to me as though it might be auto-deleted)
Just Forget all the thousands of mythical gods. For men religions will be in a nuclear world no more of any meaning in the state of the Inferno.

Since: Jun 07

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#18664 Sep 27, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
They have tarnished the character of every prophet of God and wrote many scandalous stories about them.
But if you read Quran, you will find that no such story is told about ANY prophet.
There is so much difference between the stories mentioned in Quran and those in Bible, that if the names were not same, people would think that they are two different set of people.
If you want to know about prophet, you should read Quran and not Bible.
We know that god isn't real because of he number of lies that mentally I'll religious people tell us everyday.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#18665 Sep 27, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
They have tarnished the character of every prophet of God and wrote many scandalous stories about them.
But if you read Quran, you will find that no such story is told about ANY prophet.
There is so much difference between the stories mentioned in Quran and those in Bible, that if the names were not same, people would think that they are two different set of people.
If you want to know about prophet, you should read Quran and not Bible.
Lying about god is a full time job for most believers.
henry

Germany

#18666 Sep 27, 2013
jacktheladat1 wrote:
<quoted text>WHO told YOU that?
Worth a humouros laugh, no more.

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