Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24178 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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MUQ

Lucknow, India

#18151 Aug 13, 2013
greymouser wrote:
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Ah, so you are starting on the path to wisdom. You have realized that Catholicism is business.
Do you dare take a jump to the left and wonder if other religions are just business?
And then you might take a step to the right to realize your personally chosen (for you) religion is also business.
And when those businesses of religion try to sell you their wares, you find yourself putting your hands on your hips, bringing your knees in tight and reject their advances with a pelvic thrust.
Then you start to understand Einstein's theory of how Time can Warp.
Is politics not a business? Is industry not a business? Are Newspapers and TV channels and TV News not business?

Are those TV setcoms, these Mega sporting and Music concerts not business?

Why only religions should be a taboo against business?

Religions are also business, but we buy and sell to God our Creator and to no one else!!

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#18152 Aug 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Is politics not a business? Is industry not a business? Are Newspapers and TV channels and TV News not business?
Are those TV setcoms, these Mega sporting and Music concerts not business?
Why only religions should be a taboo against business?
Religions are also business, but we buy and sell to God our Creator and to no one else!!
If religion is a business it is a scam.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#18153 Aug 13, 2013
Religion can be sued for false advertising.

Your product "god" does not exist and cannot be proven to exist in any court of law.

It is the dishonest who thrive under this nonsense you present.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#18154 Aug 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>I am actually on vacation in India and shall be back in Saudi Arabia on 17th August Inshallah.
Whilst you are there take a look at Hinduism, which is much older than your religion, in fact the oldest living religion. Notice how the world religions went on an evolution from animism (attribution of a living soul to plants, inanimate objects, and natural phenomena), to polytheism (such as the Greek, Roman, Norse religions; and Hinduism), to monotheism (judasim and its offshoots islam and christianity). Notice the trend! Deduct one more tribal god and you get to ,... Atheism!

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#18155 Aug 13, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
Religion can be sued for false advertising.
Your product "god" does not exist and cannot be proven to exist in any court of law.
It is the dishonest who thrive under this nonsense you present.
Religions are smart, they know not to be businesses. They are also afraid of being taxed and having to contribute to society in real ways.
MUQ

Lucknow, India

#18156 Aug 13, 2013
spudgun wrote:
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Whilst you are there take a look at Hinduism, which is much older than your religion, in fact the oldest living religion. Notice how the world religions went on an evolution from animism (attribution of a living soul to plants, inanimate objects, and natural phenomena), to polytheism (such as the Greek, Roman, Norse religions; and Hinduism), to monotheism (judasim and its offshoots islam and christianity). Notice the trend! Deduct one more tribal god and you get to ,... Atheism!
Every thing old just by itslef become good. Truth is always truth, it does not change with time.

Hinduism as a religion has many good things, but there was no "purification process" in it, and that is why it became just a behemoth of all sort of ideas, many of them contradictory of each other.

Their priests and sages and teachers allowed people to do whatever they liked and they provided "philosophical cover" for their blatant violation of religious principles.

As an Indian, I am aware of what Hinduism is, and I can say that there are two types of Hinduism, one for the common masses, which is nothing but idol worship and rituals and fun and dances and music and frolics...

And another for their scholars, which is meditation and thinking and leaving the worldly pleasures...

They both run side by side.....no one can say that they are same.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#18157 Aug 13, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
Religion can be sued for false advertising.
Your product "god" does not exist and cannot be proven to exist in any court of law.
It is the dishonest who thrive under this nonsense you present.
Their only "out" here? Would be to claim it's all "for entertainment purposes only".

... but they should be taxed accordingly.

“Right click Left click Yay!”

Since: Dec 10

Nehwon

#18158 Aug 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Is politics not a business? Is industry not a business? Are Newspapers and TV channels and TV News not business?
Are those TV setcoms, these Mega sporting and Music concerts not business?
Why only religions should be a taboo against business?
Religions are also business, but we buy and sell to God our Creator and to no one else!!
"Why only religions should be a taboo against business?"

Because religion -is- a business. With the same power or profit motive of any business. And the same marketing strategies.

And today's religions are a result of a survivor bias similar to the mutual fund industry. You don't hear much about the mutual funds that failed (and there were many, many of them). You hear about a few of the failed religions from historical stories.

Apparently God and his followers always need money.

Strange how Satan can deliver wealth upon temptation.

Now who is more powerful again?

“Right click Left click Yay!”

Since: Dec 10

Nehwon

#18159 Aug 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Every thing old just by itslef become good. Truth is always truth, it does not change with time.
Hinduism as a religion has many good things, but there was no "purification process" in it, and that is why it became just a behemoth of all sort of ideas, many of them contradictory of each other.
Their priests and sages and teachers allowed people to do whatever they liked and they provided "philosophical cover" for their blatant violation of religious principles.
As an Indian, I am aware of what Hinduism is, and I can say that there are two types of Hinduism, one for the common masses, which is nothing but idol worship and rituals and fun and dances and music and frolics...
And another for their scholars, which is meditation and thinking and leaving the worldly pleasures...
They both run side by side.....no one can say that they are same.
What aspects of Hinduism do you think is good?
LCNlin

United States

#18161 Aug 13, 2013
Former Chambersburg woman meets Archbishop of Canterbury
Sharing talents: Patterson heads micro-enterprise development organization
By CHERYL M. KEYSER for Public Opinion

Sonia (Harter) Patterson stands next to the Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby during a meeting with the organization Five Talents, of which Patterson is executive director.(courtesy)
In June, former Chambersburg resident Sonia Patterson found herself at Lambeth Palace in London, attending a bi-annual meeting of the International Board of Five Talents USA, which she heads as executive director.

The organization, founded in 1998, specializes in Christian micro-enterprise development. As part of the Global Angelican Communion, it falls under the patronage of the Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby.

At a communion service that took place in the crypt beneath the palace, Patterson and others were blessed by the archbishop and, one by as they exited the service, Welby asked them where they were from. Patterson, said Chambersburg, Pa, a town she has not lived in for many years but it still proud to be connected with.

Patterson attended elementary, middle, and high school in Chambersburg. Her parents are the Rev. William H. Harter and the late Rev. Linda B. Harter, who were ministers at Presbyterian Church of the Falling Spring, Chambersburg.

After graduating from Wittenberg University in Ohio, Patterson entered the Peace Corps and was assigned to Honduras, where she discovered her interest in helping those less-advantaged to improve their stations in life. Returning to the United States, she obtained her master's degree in Latin American studies and entrepreneurship from Thunderbird School of Global Management in Arizona. She worked for a time as a professional English-Spanish interpreter.

But her heart was in small business development.

http://www.publicopiniononline.com/living/ci_...

Since: Mar 11

Henderson, KY

#18162 Aug 14, 2013
Islam by your own scribd page is polytheistic as you have Allah, his two goddess daughters and the holy she camel of Allah.
spudgun wrote:
<quoted text>
Whilst you are there take a look at Hinduism, which is much older than your religion, in fact the oldest living religion. Notice how the world religions went on an evolution from animism (attribution of a living soul to plants, inanimate objects, and natural phenomena), to polytheism (such as the Greek, Roman, Norse religions; and Hinduism), to monotheism (judasim and its offshoots islam and christianity). Notice the trend! Deduct one more tribal god and you get to ,... Atheism!
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#18163 Aug 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
.... Truth is always truth, it does not change with time....[jibber-jabber]
It depends what one means by truth. That all evidence to now clearly demonstrates that religions are man's inventions and there are no such things as gods or pixies seems a fairly certain, timeless and universal truth.

Almost all non-sea-faring people before about 1,400AD (i.e. until relatively recenlty) would have said the Earth was obviously flat and so would have considered that an obvious truth.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#18164 Aug 14, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Islam by your own scribd page is polytheistic as you have Allah, his two goddess daughters and the holy she camel of Allah.
<quoted text>
Well.... that holy camel does explain all the camel-f***ing going on over there...

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#18165 Aug 14, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Islam by your own scribd page is polytheistic as you have Allah, his two goddess daughters and the holy she camel of Allah.
<quoted text>
Your analogies are as near to perfection as no counter 'argument' as accurate, could be offered in support of an opposing opinion.

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#18166 Aug 14, 2013
...... My above post was aimed at EdSed -
Almost all non-sea-faring people before about 1,400AD (i.e. until relatively recenlty) would have said the Earth was obviously flat and so would have considered that an obvious truth. Dah, Don't ask!

Since: Mar 11

Henderson, KY

#18167 Aug 14, 2013
Well that could just be a fetish for many Muslims in the area :)) lol, but no doubt Islam always has been a polytheistic religion.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Well.... that holy camel does explain all the camel-f***ing going on over there...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#18168 Aug 14, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Well that could just be a fetish for many Muslims in the area :)) lol, but no doubt Islam always has been a polytheistic religion.
<quoted text>
Is it any surprise? Considering how they think of human women-- as things to be abused, exploited and owned-- simple baby-machines...

... that many islamic men would prefer the "company" of camels to that of human females ...
MUQ

Lucknow, India

#18169 Aug 15, 2013
GM wrote:
1.

"Why only religions should be a taboo against business?"

Because religion -is- a business. With the same power or profit motive of any business. And the same marketing strategies.

And today's religions are a result of a survivor bias similar to the mutual fund industry. You don't hear much about the mutual funds that failed (and there were many, many of them). You hear about a few of the failed religions from historical stories.

Apparently God and his followers always need money.

Strange how Satan can deliver wealth upon temptation.

Now who is more powerful again?

2.

What aspects of Hinduism do you think is good?
Ans.

If religions are a successful business and still hold their ground after thousands of years of competition from all other business going around in the world….then why you should be critical of it?

Try to bring any business that is more successful than religion!!

God does not need any money and no money reaches God. The money collected in charity is spent on poors and needy people.

God is above these wants.

2. One aspect of Hindus that I like is that they do not oppose people worshiping any thing and every thing.

This is their positive quality and also their biggest negative quality.
MUQ

Lucknow, India

#18170 Aug 15, 2013
Ed Sed wrote:

It depends what one means by truth. That all evidence to now clearly demonstrates that religions are man's inventions and there are no such things as gods or pixies seems a fairly certain, timeless and universal truth.

Almost all non-sea-faring people before about 1,400AD (i.e. until relatively recently) would have said the Earth was obviously flat and so would have considered that an obvious truth.
Ans.

Truth is always truth, there is nothing like “My Truth or Your truth”.

Truths NEVER contradict or reject each other. Every truth shall always support another truth.

Earth is flat or circular has nothing to do with religion or religious teachings.

The subject of religion is relations between man and their Creator and relations between humans.

There is never any contradiction between True religion and True Science.

Since: Mar 11

Henderson, KY

#18171 Aug 15, 2013
Islam claims that a female camel is a divine being remember? Not many scientists will agree.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
Truth is always truth, there is nothing like “My Truth or Your truth”.
Truths NEVER contradict or reject each other. Every truth shall always support another truth.
Earth is flat or circular has nothing to do with religion or religious teachings.
The subject of religion is relations between man and their Creator and relations between humans.
There is never any contradiction between True religion and True Science.

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