Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24182 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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spider

Cambridge, UK

#17957 Aug 1, 2013
MUQ wrote:
To: Mr. Spider
Qualities of a True Prophet of God:
G. Seventh Quality: Prophets do not seek any Worldly Reward for their services
Since Prophets are sent by God for specific missions and are His representatives on earth, they seek rewards only from God. They do not ask or demand any worldly demands from their followers for their services.
This selflessness of Prophets is one quality which distinguishes them from False prophets, who want either worldly rewards or recognition or fame.
The pre-eminent position which prophets receive from their followers is not because of their asking, it is because of their eminence in the knowledge of religious matters and that they are main source from which their followers get the guidance.
G1. Do Prophets not receive “Any” Reward?
The Honor and Recognition from their followers is totally different from the titles and wealth and pomp and show which worldly kings and Rulers and Dictators and Political Leaders and Reformers achieve in their lives.
The Power and Might and Position of most of these worldly rulers declines quickly after their death. In most cases no one even remembers their names unless he goes into books of History.
In case of Prophets, their Honor, Reverence, Recognition in world and in the eyes of their followers increases with time.
This is the “Worldly Rewards” which they achieve in this world, but their Real Rewards shall be in the hereafter, when God will bestow upon them Honors, Blessings and Rewards beyond any measure!!
The answer is easy if you apply logic,,, if an individual is raised from child hood in a cult, then they are brain washed, they fear alternatives, they fear their fellow believers, the possible rejection and punishment that may be inflicted on them for standing out from the crowd and saying, " MY MIND IS FREE, I THINK FOR MYSELF". There is a saying " Death before dishonour", that is a code we could all do well to abide by,,, if of course it's meaning is understood.
spider

Cambridge, UK

#17958 Aug 1, 2013
Jay wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol! Muslims are different and a threat to western civilization period as when there extreme elements take actions 99% of global Muslims do not outspokenly condemn the nasty acts unless its Shia vs Sunni. More people have been killed in the name of god then any other reason. Satan is still killed just in the single digits I suppose he couldn't be that bad then right? Even masonry at the higher levels practice satan rituals, ironic eh. Lizard people they say... Perhaps... Time for a new religion. Maybe need aliens on the moon mining valued minerals and operating a space port... I can work with that... How do i get billions to believe in the invisible man hmmm .... A fuck it I need a beer!
Lol, sounds like you have had a few already.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#17959 Aug 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Our prophet said "Every new born is born as on True Nature, it is their parents who make them Jews, Christians or Magians (and Hindus and Buddhists etc).
So every new born is born as pure and unbiased and it correct mindset.
No one is Born Atheist!!
You have to REJECT all religions to become an Atheist.
No, it means without theism. If you were born theist, no parents would be teaching any sort of indoctrition. You and every human alive was born atheist.
There is no rejecting anything to be an atheist. Atheist is not theist.
Do all the religions that you reject make you an atheist?
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#17960 Aug 2, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>
Do all the religions that you reject make you an atheist?
Maybe one day the penny will drop and he will realise that he is atheist with respect to all religions, except for the one he was born into.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#17961 Aug 2, 2013
LCN Llin wrote:
Atheism to Defeat Religion
Atheism 14
Religion 14
Half-Time
Atheism will defeat religion where there is free access of information and education, because the arguments are stronger. Religion is only growing in those parts of the world where there is a large proportion of uneducated and illiterate children.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#17962 Aug 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
..but their Real Rewards shall be in the hereafter, when God will bestow upon them Honors, Blessings and Rewards beyond any measure!!
Oh yes. the virgins! Muq opens his Quran and recites the verses about the Houri, the 72 virgin prostitutes waiting for him in paradise. He imagines their splendour and takes his lad out and begins to pray. Those bastard atheists, they had their chance and blew it. They will be in hellfire. An evil and deserved fate. Now all the virgin booty is Muqs to enjoy, an eternity of sensual pleasures. But wait. Does this mean 72 mothers in law as well?! The thought spoils the moment. He will have to continue this fantasy later, and besides the pages of the Quran now need wiping clean.
LCN Llin

United States

#17963 Aug 2, 2013
spudgun wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism will defeat religion where there is free access of information and education, because the arguments are stronger. Religion is only growing in those parts of the world where there is a large proportion of uneducated and illiterate children.
Troubling
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#17964 Aug 2, 2013
LCN Llin wrote:
<quoted text>
Troubling
Please explain. What is troubling? That Atheism may be on the rise?
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#17965 Aug 2, 2013
Here's a funny xtranormal video on youtube. I've posted it before, but I think captures perfectly the conversations we have here on the Atheism forum.
MUQ

Lucknow, India

#17966 Aug 2, 2013
spider wrote:
<quoted text>
The answer is easy if you apply logic,,, if an individual is raised from child hood in a cult, then they are brain washed, they fear alternatives, they fear their fellow believers, the possible rejection and punishment that may be inflicted on them for standing out from the crowd and saying, " MY MIND IS FREE, I THINK FOR MYSELF". There is a saying " Death before dishonour", that is a code we could all do well to abide by,,, if of course it's meaning is understood.
You are going off topic Mr. Spider.

Keep your thoughts focused, we will deal with other matters.

Why you entered into the debate on "Qualities of a True Prophet of God, without having any knowledge about the subject'?

I have to pull on, because the subject has to be completed.
MUQ

Lucknow, India

#17967 Aug 2, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>No, it means without theism. If you were born theist, no parents would be teaching any sort of indoctrition. You and every human alive was born atheist.
There is no rejecting anything to be an atheist. Atheist is not theist.
Do all the religions that you reject make you an atheist?
No human child will "believe" he created himslef and this Universe came by itslef.

He has to try very hard to believe in these most unreasonable ideas, and it is only by denying very hard that this will become his or her "natural thoughts".

There have been very less "atheists societies" in whole human history.

My Dear, NO ONE is Born Atheist!!

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#17968 Aug 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
No human child will "believe" he created himslef and this Universe came by itslef.
He has to try very hard to believe in these most unreasonable ideas, and it is only by denying very hard that this will become his or her "natural thoughts".
There have been very less "atheists societies" in whole human history.
My Dear, NO ONE is Born Atheist!!
Everyone's born atheists and you're a coward with no proof of god. Both facts that you cannot refute.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#17969 Aug 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
No human child will "believe" he created himself and this Universe came by itself...
No child is born knowing about religion. That has to be taught. Newborns are weak atheists in that they have no beliefs in God or gods.

If you think about it, if a God exists, and wants us to know of his existence, it would be easy for him to implant directly in our minds the truth of his existence. i.e. without the need for priests or prophets. However as God is completely silent, that is >positive< proof there is no God.

According to Muslims and Christians, God wants us to come to the "truth" and be "saved" (from hell). This God does not provide us with decent evidence of his existence, and instead gives contradictory revelations to so called "prophets".

This also is further >positive< proof that a God does not exist.
LCN Llin

United States

#17970 Aug 2, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Religious liars need to prove the god's they choose to lie about or f*ck off, its been that way since the dawn of time itself.
Nobody has proven their god, they all need their mental illnesses cured through professional help.
If they still believe they are not lying, take them to court and lets see how much evidence they can bring up to defend their hate-cults.
"If you weren't tilting at windmills, you would have nothing to post." -Waxman
TamiI Kovil

UK

#17971 Aug 2, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Everyone's born atheists and you're a coward with no proof of god. Both facts that you cannot refute.
We all know that newer generations will be better informed about religion ie. science over God.

However, the rise in radical Islam will result in more [usually non religious] people in the West to claim Christianity as their primary faith, even if they haven't been to church in the last 5 years and wouldn't normally refer to themselves as such.

As the anti-Muslim brigade get ever louder, so too will more moderate Muslims who see their whole faith coming under attack.

This will again result in Pro-christian movements becoming ever more vociferous in condemning Islam.

The result will be an even more religious society in 30 years.

All that good work undone by religious fanatics
LCN Llin

United States

#17972 Aug 2, 2013
TamiI Kovil wrote:
<quoted text>
We all know that newer generations will be better informed about religion ie. science over God.
However, the rise in radical Islam will result in more [usually non religious] people in the West to claim Christianity as their primary faith, even if they haven't been to church in the last 5 years and wouldn't normally refer to themselves as such.
As the anti-Muslim brigade get ever louder, so too will more moderate Muslims who see their whole faith coming under attack.
This will again result in Pro-christian movements becoming ever more vociferous in condemning Islam.
The result will be an even more religious society in 30 years.
All that good work undone by religious fanatics
Thanks! an intelligent post!

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#17973 Aug 2, 2013
LCN Llin wrote:
Atheism to Defeat Religion
Atheism 14
Religion 14
Half-Time
Atheism - 70
Religion - 0 as they hasn't found the stadium yet

first minute of the first quarter
Thinking

Royston, UK

#17974 Aug 2, 2013
I think any rise in islam will just result in more people telling muslims to f**k off. I don't think christianity will get a bounce from it.
TamiI Kovil wrote:
<quoted text>
We all know that newer generations will be better informed about religion ie. science over God.
However, the rise in radical Islam will result in more [usually non religious] people in the West to claim Christianity as their primary faith, even if they haven't been to church in the last 5 years and wouldn't normally refer to themselves as such.
As the anti-Muslim brigade get ever louder, so too will more moderate Muslims who see their whole faith coming under attack.
This will again result in Pro-christian movements becoming ever more vociferous in condemning Islam.
The result will be an even more religious society in 30 years.
All that good work undone by religious fanatics

Since: Mar 11

Henderson, KY

#17975 Aug 2, 2013
Oh no! Don't ask him that! He will have to either copy and paste something from his collection of Christian apologetic websites or try to stumble through with his atrociously poor English skills!

Spudgun that was very cruel!:))

The short answer is his preacher hates atheists, so he does too.
spudgun wrote:
<quoted text>Please explain. What is troubling? That Atheism may be on the rise?

Since: Mar 11

Henderson, KY

#17976 Aug 2, 2013
Muhammad has been disqualified by your own requirements. He was a rural warlord not a role model and he certainly killed and maimed many to collect gold, land, slaves and more so he benefitted materially which goes against your last requirement.

Wow you really didn't think this through did you? Would you say many in Islam are are ignorant as you? My how Islam has failed you!
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>You are going off topic Mr. Spider.

Keep your thoughts focused, we will deal with other matters.

Why you entered into the debate on "Qualities of a True Prophet of God, without having any knowledge about the subject'?

I have to pull on, because the subject has to be completed.

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