Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24182 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Dak-Original

Belfast, UK

#17216 Jun 26, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Nah won't work because we see as Muslims move into more civilized societies they either calm down, stop attending mosques or leave Islam all together after a few generations in many cases.
I know a guy who is a Muslim in name only. He has never read the Quran and never goes to a mosque, celebrates Christmas and has a Christian GF. He will say if family is around that he is a Muslim but that's about it.
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But he is included in this MUQ's statistics as a muslim1 So are shias! LOL!
Thinking

Kingston Upon Thames, UK

#17217 Jun 26, 2013
In the UK, Pakistani children born of first cousin marriages are ten times more likely to have genetic defects than is the UK norm.

How would you suggest positioning the concept of far less dangerous second cousin marriages to that community?

Whose responsibility do you think it is to do this?
rio wrote:
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This is why the chance that "Islam is going to take over Europe" is a myth. But people won't abandon their culture though ...

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Nehwon

#17218 Jun 26, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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I suspect this pope is not long for the title, either.
The world-wide phenomena of marriage equality is growing, and rapidly.
Vatican city will eventually bow to the inevitable, or hemorrhage huge piles of cash as members go elsewhere.
Even here in the USA, there is a largish faction of catholics crying for a break with Rome, and establishing their own hierarchy specifically for the Americas.
Lots of lovely historical precedent for this move, too.
I have some excellent popcorn at the ready, in anticipation.
<laughing>
I must admit that I am paying a bit of attention to this pope. It's like getting caught up in a soap opera.

How far will he go?

Can he scrape beyond the surface and drain the pus that is infecting the Vatican?

Or will the Cardinals assassinate him so that they can inherit the wealth and keep riding the gravy train?

Tune in tomorrow!

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Since: Dec 10

Nehwon

#17219 Jun 26, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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When you go thru the list of qualities of True Prophets of God, you will find that no one has come forward in past 1400 years.
No Major religion came into the world during that period. The so called new religions like Sikhism. Qadiani, Bahaism amd Mormon are very much localized affairs, having no impact to the world history.
So claer your mind of all such bias and be open minded. Unless you have open mind, no amount of reason and logic can help you.
Strange how you don't include Buddhism and Hinduism in your list.

Also strange that you don't mention anything about a major schism in Islam. Who should I root for? Sunni's or Shiites?

Or is Wahabi the right path in the modern era?

Maybe the US should back Alawites in Syria.

Tell us.

Which flavor of Islam is correct?

For what I see is the same disintegration of Islam that Christianity has already gone through.

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Since: Dec 10

Nehwon

#17220 Jun 26, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Scripture fulfilled. If you know it, why do you keep making derogatory and abusive comments? Creativity and intellect can cause mental illness.
"Creativity and intellect can cause mental illness."

All part of the omni-benevolent divine plan?

Or is this the beginnings of an excuse to plead your way into heaven?

It's not your fault you didn't try to learn more of god's creation! You were only doing what you were told!

It took a while, but mortals have learned that that plea doesn't fly at all.

So why do you think you can fool god with it?

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Since: Dec 10

Nehwon

#17221 Jun 26, 2013
henry wrote:
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The Bible belt hus the duty to help women for an equal education!
Oh, yay. it's henry, the internet critic again.

We already know your reviews: Everything sucks.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#17222 Jun 26, 2013
greymouser wrote:
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I must admit that I am paying a bit of attention to this pope. It's like getting caught up in a soap opera.
How far will he go?
Can he scrape beyond the surface and drain the pus that is infecting the Vatican?
Or will the Cardinals assassinate him so that they can inherit the wealth and keep riding the gravy train?
Tune in tomorrow!
But first a word from our sponsor...
Yes. The "natural" cause of death, for popes, has traditionally been poison.

I'm mystified why the previous pope outlived his usefulness.

Perhaps he jumped ship before they could act?

After all: everyone in Vatican City is past 60, most older still. So moving quickly isn't on their agendas....

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Since: Dec 10

Nehwon

#17223 Jun 26, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Yes. The "natural" cause of death, for popes, has traditionally been poison.
I'm mystified why the previous pope outlived his usefulness.
Perhaps he jumped ship before they could act?
After all: everyone in Vatican City is past 60, most older still. So moving quickly isn't on their agendas....
I have a few wild speculations about that.

Benedict was following a rock star pope. Big red shoes to fill there.

The conspiracy side of me thinks that by him resigning was a shocking thing that hadn't happened in centuries.. Which allowed another shocking thing dwarfed by the resignation - a Jesuit* pope.
A first.

And the Catholic Church needs a shock right now to salvage any redemption from the pedophilia scandals.

Another idea is that Benedict realized he wasn't cut out to be the front man taking all the slings and arrows (analogy - Dick Cheney).

*From what I've heard, Jesuits are not to be trifled with. They accept science findings, balance it with dogma and try to follow the message of Jesus. And do so against a despotic regimes. While I may disagree with their religious motivation, I do respect them.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#17224 Jun 27, 2013
There are many Muslim in name only folks running around. They hang onto the name Muslim and may avoid pork but that's about it.
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>I agree.

I used to sit next to a really funny one who ate at his work desk all through Ramadan. "It's OK, I've closed the blinds!"

He still doesn't eat pork, but he likes a drink and he's got no intention whatsoever of putting a rag on his little girl's head.
Thinking

Kingston Upon Thames, UK

#17225 Jun 27, 2013
sharia says the penalty for leaving islam is death.

Even in non sharia countries, muslims would get a lot of grief from their community for formally leaving... so they don't.
Givemeliberty wrote:
There are many Muslim in name only folks running around. They hang onto the name Muslim and may avoid pork but that's about it.
<quoted text>
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#17226 Jun 27, 2013
greymouser wrote:
<quoted text>
Strange how you don't include Buddhism and Hinduism in your list.
Also strange that you don't mention anything about a major schism in Islam. Who should I root for? Sunni's or Shiites?
Or is Wahabi the right path in the modern era?
Maybe the US should back Alawites in Syria.
Tell us.
Which flavor of Islam is correct?
For what I see is the same disintegration of Islam that Christianity has already gone through.
Buddhism and Hinduism are "Old religion" not that which came in past 1400 years.

You should root for Islam only, once you study it, you will forget all about sects and denominations.

No Islam will not face the same disintegration that Christianity witnessed.....there is no scope for St. Paul in Islam, who became the "Chief spokesperson" for Jesus, even when he did not meet Jesus, not learned anything from him or any of his chosen disciples.

basic teachings of Islam are still intact after 1400 years and shall remain till the end of the world.

It is people who have to make their choices as to accept it or not.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#17227 Jun 27, 2013
fadu singh wrote:
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You haven't answered my questions,MUQ.Now you have added an extra criterion that a prophet must have a global impact.
Considering this to be true,how does it prove that Muhammad was indeed last prophet?Since,Judaism is no more a major religion,does this mean Moses was a fake prophet?
I have shown no close mindedness.I am just following your replies and questioning accordingly.
Who said that I am an additional criterion that a prophet must have a "global impact"?

I said that no universal or major religion rose in past 1400 years. Those who claimed prophet hood did not make any impact except on a local basis.

When Islam a universal religion is available, any new religion should have something comparable, should it not.

The question was the end of prophethood and not the qualities of a true prophet.

Are you ready to discuss this subject with me? Slowly and one step at a time?

Since: Mar 12

India

#17228 Jun 27, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Who said that I am an additional criterion that a prophet must have a "global impact"?
I said that no universal or major religion rose in past 1400 years. Those who claimed prophet hood did not make any impact except on a local basis.
When Islam a universal religion is available, any new religion should have something comparable, should it not.
The question was the end of prophethood and not the qualities of a true prophet.
Are you ready to discuss this subject with me? Slowly and one step at a time?
Ok,Is end of prophecy solely supported by Quran or endorsed by some other scriptures as well?I am asking this because Christians and Jews are not accepting Muhammad as prophet though they believe in God and prophecies.What caused such a major discord among the people of the book?Did Muhammad fell short of the criteria set by these religions?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#17229 Jun 27, 2013
greymouser wrote:
<quoted text>
I have a few wild speculations about that.

Benedict was following a rock star pope. Big red shoes to fill there.
The conspiracy side of me thinks that by him resigning was a shocking thing that hadn't happened in centuries.. Which allowed another shocking thing dwarfed by the resignation - a Jesuit* pope.
A first.

And the Catholic Church needs a shock right now to salvage any redemption from the pedophilia scandals.
Another idea is that Benedict realized he wasn't cut out to be the front man taking all the slings and arrows (analogy - Dick Cheney).

*From what I've heard, Jesuits are not to be trifled with. They accept science findings, balance it with dogma and try to follow the message of Jesus. And do so against a despotic regimes. While I may disagree with their religious motivation, I do respect them.
You may be right. I don't pay that close an attention to the sordid details.

But your observations are interesting.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#17230 Jun 27, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
There are many Muslim in name only folks running around. They hang onto the name Muslim and may avoid pork but that's about it.
<quoted text>
Lots of catholics and jews fit that description too.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#17231 Jun 27, 2013
We see that happen in the US Muslims killing family members who openly leave Islam, which is why they often just move away and stop going to the mosque.
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>sharia says the penalty for leaving islam is death.

Even in non sharia countries, muslims would get a lot of grief from their community for formally leaving... so they don't.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#17232 Jun 27, 2013
Wrong the Hindus were out way before even Christianity, it predates Islam by centuries and the Quran even steals word for word Hindu writings.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>Buddhism and Hinduism are "Old religion" not that which came in past 1400 years.

You should root for Islam only, once you study it, you will forget all about sects and denominations.

No Islam will not face the same disintegration that Christianity witnessed.....there is no scope for St. Paul in Islam, who became the "Chief spokesperson" for Jesus, even when he did not meet Jesus, not learned anything from him or any of his chosen disciples.

basic teachings of Islam are still intact after 1400 years and shall remain till the end of the world.

It is people who have to make their choices as to accept it or not.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#17233 Jun 27, 2013
Naturally :) most Christians as well. Churches and even mosques are losing attendance on droves in the US.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Lots of catholics and jews fit that description too.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#17234 Jun 28, 2013
fadu singh wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok,Is end of prophecy solely supported by Quran or endorsed by some other scriptures as well?I am asking this because Christians and Jews are not accepting Muhammad as prophet though they believe in God and prophecies.What caused such a major discord among the people of the book?Did Muhammad fell short of the criteria set by these religions?
Dear brother, I will not quote any thing from Quran at all.

These are very basic things which most people already know. And using these criterion we can judge who is a true prophet of God and who is not.

But you will have to be patient and listen to each item slowly and give your comments.

If you get these things properly understood, your job will become very easy.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#17235 Jun 28, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear brother, I will not quote any thing from Quran at all.
These are very basic things which most people already know. And using these criterion we can judge who is a true prophet of God and who is not.
But you will have to be patient and listen to each item slowly and give your comments.
If you get these things properly understood, your job will become very easy.
Coward with no proof of god representing dishonest and violent cult.

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