Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Apr 25, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Psychology Today

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>If one suggests that pixies or god(s) exist, it becomes encumbant on one to prove it scientifically. Otherwise the rational position is not to believe in pixies or god(s).
Reality doesn't change because one wants to believe in pixies or gods.
<quoted text> You confuse religion with morality. We need everyone to help decide what is right and wrong. That is called democracy. We cannot have one religious tribe decide they are right and others are wrong. That is called Zionism or Islamism. That looks remarkably like fascism in that it is dependent on dogma and ideology rather than democracy.
That was to MUQ. How can you possibly write: "That is called Zionism or Islamism," and not also condemn many versions of Christianity? and how can you condemn all versions of Zionism(if there are any who are willing to share land with Palestinians in peace and friendship and a multi-cultural state), or all versions of Islam?

And democracy is not the way to decide what is right and what is wrong. A majority of people can be very bloodthirsty and cry out for killings that are not justified. Just look at all the blood lust watchers of the Arias trial who were crying because she did not get a death sentence! A majority is not fit to decide what is right or wrong, especially an emotional majority, or one swayed by manipulative demagogues or elites. It takes wise and mature persons, not mobs, to discuss right and wrong, over time and with much consideration and openness to varying views.
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I do not think it is wise to be overly hostile, or to make sweeping generalizations. Topix is a better way to do it if one has to, but it is also possible to try to seek some understanding, and not just attack others here. That goes for persons on a variety of sides. I make mistakes too in sounding too certain, sometimes.

Once in a while someone actually enjoys the give and take of hostility and likes to bait others, and it is OK to play with the BC's of topix, who enjoy it and relish the combat. But it is not wise to unleash genuine hostility and venom, in many cases - whether it is one's own, or a provocation of others.

That is my opinion, and I try to live by it as best I can.
I think that Buck Crick and Skeptic actually enjoy and relish and provoke the extremist reactions, so they sort of deserve each other.
But there are better things to do, for many of us, if we would try to....
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Nothing to see,
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only the usual repetitive troll
Givemeliberty wrote:
Yes you believe Allah has sex with his own daughters.
Don't you think Islam should abandon honor killing and honor rape!
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MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
01. What sort of freedom is that when you say “there is no God”? You become a slave to Satan and Devil and your own hallucinations.
Just shouting there is no God, will not change the nature’s realities in any way.
02. So vacuum replaces what? So a world without religion is like people living in Jungle.
Then why do you not replace that Model in your real life? Why do you need all these Assembles and Parliaments to make laws and more laws and still more laws to regulate every part of your life.
Don’t you accept most of these laws even if you do not like it.
Why it is only religion where you want total Anarchy? That does not make sense, does it?
You just want the freedom to abuse, rape and murder little girls.

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Lincoln wrote:
Nothing to see,
Move along home,
only the usual repetitive troll
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Why are you telling us what we already know, you are a nothing troll. But congratulations on waking up to yourself.

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:) Thats symbolic of the amount of evidence we have on the fabricated lives of the "prophets".
I beg to differ-- it's rather too much symbol, to go with the total lack of any (evidence).

A more fitting symbol would be the ASCII character 32 (decimal)...

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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I beg to differ-- it's rather too much symbol, to go with the total lack of any (evidence).
A more fitting symbol would be the ASCII character 32 (decimal)...
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Give the poor sod a break Bob

He has trouble with each syllable!

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MUQ wrote:
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This only shows your inhuman nature and that you have no regards for feelings of others.
That shows that you people are lower than animals, and have lost all sense of right and wrong.
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And your actions show that you have deep rooted inferiority complex and fear of islam and Muslims.
And doing all these things just to show off that you do not fear!!
And do you think you will lower the honor and regard and respect of his personality by doing these stupid acts?
I wonder why right thinking people in west are silent about this stupidity.
The feelings of others? This is coming from you? Do you take into consideration the feelings of the babies that you rape, or their mothers feelings, as they witness what the family's supposed protectors would do to the family?

Thighing shows your inhumane nature, and that you have no regards for the feelings of others. It shows that you people are lower than animals, and have lost all sense of right and wrong.

PS:

And your actions show that you have a deep rooted inferiority complex (fear of the power of woman) and a fear of Islam and it's maniacal pack of freak Muslims.

I do not wonder why sane people all over this planet, are silent about this stupidity. It is because they don't yet know what lesser animals you are.

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Thanks for identifying that you have a very mean nature.
What else I could expect from an Atheist , and in addition to being an Atheist, he / she is transfixed with "Thighs"!! A catch word!!
Are you planning on becoming human? Are you planning on renouncing thighing as both unnatural, and harmful acts against the weakest and most innocent of your peoples?

Do you have any intention of being less that a pervert? No, then learn to live with my condemnation of your insanity. I am not the one raping babies, it is you filthy pigs doing that, and I am "mean" for pointing out your pure evil?

And transfixed with "thighs"? It has nothing to do with any upper leg. So, no, it the practice that you baby rapers call "thighing", where-in your adult penises are used in and on babies as soon as they are born, in some cases. Call it what it is, you low-life pig, it is the willful molestataion of children and babies.
And you are guilty!
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Known by many as the world's most famous atheist, Richard Dawkins - author of The God Delusion - explained during a public discussion at Oxford University, that he does not think of himself as an atheist, but rather an agnostic.

The Telegraph reported on Monday that Richard Dawkins - although regularly labeled as one - does not consider himself an atheist.

In the open dialogue with Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Rowan Williams, Dawkins also noted that in his book, The God Delusion, he never made the claim that he is certain that God does not exist.

When moderator, Sir Anthony Kennedy, made a remark insinuating that Dawkins had made such an argument, Dawkins quickly jumped in and corrected him.
"No, I don't. I don't. You were wrong when you said that. I constructed in the God Delusion a 7-point scale, of which 1 is 'I know God exists' and 7 is 'I know God doesn't exist' and I called myself a 6."
Kennedy then asked, "Why don't you call yourself an agnostic then?"
Dawkins replied, "I do."
Dawkins then explained that he believes there are gradations of agnosticism. He is of the opinion that there are agnostics who feel that although they cannot know, for sure, whether or not a God exists, they conclude -to their satisfaction - that there is a 50-50 chance there is, or isn't a God. Dawkins emphasized that he is no such agnostic.
Quite certain - although he set forth absolutely no research or statistical evidence to support his claim - Dawkins insists that it is highly improbable that God exists.
"I think the probability of any supernatural creator existing is very, very low, which is why I say I'm a 6.9"
One has to wonder, where does Dawkins derive such a "probability"? If he is so certain, why doesn't he just say he is a 7? What holds him back?

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Lincoln wrote:
Known by many as the world's most famous atheist, Richard Dawkins - author of The God Delusion - explained during a public discussion at Oxford University, that he does not think of himself as an atheist, but rather an agnostic.
The Telegraph reported on Monday that Richard Dawkins - although regularly labeled as one - does not consider himself an atheist.
In the open dialogue with Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Rowan Williams, Dawkins also noted that in his book, The God Delusion, he never made the claim that he is certain that God does not exist.
When moderator, Sir Anthony Kennedy, made a remark insinuating that Dawkins had made such an argument, Dawkins quickly jumped in and corrected him.
"No, I don't. I don't. You were wrong when you said that. I constructed in the God Delusion a 7-point scale, of which 1 is 'I know God exists' and 7 is 'I know God doesn't exist' and I called myself a 6."
Kennedy then asked, "Why don't you call yourself an agnostic then?"
Dawkins replied, "I do."
Dawkins then explained that he believes there are gradations of agnosticism. He is of the opinion that there are agnostics who feel that although they cannot know, for sure, whether or not a God exists, they conclude -to their satisfaction - that there is a 50-50 chance there is, or isn't a God. Dawkins emphasized that he is no such agnostic.
Quite certain - although he set forth absolutely no research or statistical evidence to support his claim - Dawkins insists that it is highly improbable that God exists.
"I think the probability of any supernatural creator existing is very, very low, which is why I say I'm a 6.9"
One has to wonder, where does Dawkins derive such a "probability"? If he is so certain, why doesn't he just say he is a 7? What holds him back?
Creationists that attack Dawkins, do so because they cannot attack atheism.

It is easier for a person who lies about god, to try to move the focus upon a person, instead of the atheist argument.

Creationists want everyone to believe that atheists have a prophet, because it makes their cult lies easier to tell.

Of course we know that dishonesty gets you nowhere in the real world...
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Interesting views from Dawkins as an agnostic

Known by many as the world's most famous atheist, Richard Dawkins - author of The God Delusion - explained during a public discussion at Oxford University, that he does not think of himself as an atheist, but rather an agnostic.

The Telegraph reported on Monday that Richard Dawkins - although regularly labeled as one - does not consider himself an atheist.

In the open dialogue with Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Rowan Williams, Dawkins also noted that in his book, The God Delusion, he never made the claim that he is certain that God does not exist.

If Dawkins is an agnostic how many other atheists prove to be agnostics when interviewed?

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Lincoln wrote:
Interesting views from Dawkins as an agnostic
Known by many as the world's most famous atheist, Richard Dawkins - author of The God Delusion - explained during a public discussion at Oxford University, that he does not think of himself as an atheist, but rather an agnostic.
The Telegraph reported on Monday that Richard Dawkins - although regularly labeled as one - does not consider himself an atheist.
In the open dialogue with Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Rowan Williams, Dawkins also noted that in his book, The God Delusion, he never made the claim that he is certain that God does not exist.
If Dawkins is an agnostic how many other atheists prove to be agnostics when interviewed?
Lincoln doesn't realise that attacking Dawkins does not invalidate atheism.

All the while the creationist troll Lincoln has no proof of god to present and nothing of worth to share...
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Lincoln doesn't realise that attacking Dawkins does not invalidate atheism.
All the while the creationist troll Lincoln has no proof of god to present and nothing of worth to share...
Theists who believe in a divinely created Earth, and in the literal truth of the alleged 'holy book' aka the Bible containing 'hearsay' stories, written by primitive men, must reinterpret all new things discovered in light of the same source material.

The atheist will read this and then make a judgment if it warrants merit or outright rejection. They will not seek an apologist - they will use their own mind to determine the validity of the content. In short they will question anything and everything.

The literal theist, on the other hand, is forced to say ...
"Either that's a lie, it's wrong, or God is testing my faith by giving Me yet more contradictory evidence that on the surface seems telling but really doesn't mean anything."

“Reason and faith are opposites, two mutually exclusive terms: there is no reconciliation or common ground. Faith is belief without, or in spite of, reason.”~George H. Smith
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Theists who believe in a divinely created Earth, and in the literal truth of the alleged 'holy book' aka the Bible containing 'hearsay' stories, written by primitive men, must reinterpret all new things discovered in light of the same source material.
The atheist will read this and then make a judgment if it warrants merit or outright rejection. They will not seek an apologist - they will use their own mind to determine the validity of the content. In short they will question anything and everything.
The literal theist, on the other hand, is forced to say ...
"Either that's a lie, it's wrong, or God is testing my faith by giving Me yet more contradictory evidence that on the surface seems telling but really doesn't mean anything."
“Reason and faith are opposites, two mutually exclusive terms: there is no reconciliation or common ground. Faith is belief without, or in spite of, reason.”~George H. Smith
Kennedy then asked, "Why don't you call yourself an agnostic then?"
Dawkins replied, "I do."
Dawkins then explained that he believes there are gradations of agnosticism. He is of the opinion that there are agnostics who feel that although they cannot know, for sure, whether or not a God exists, they conclude -to their satisfaction - that there is a 50-50 chance there is, or isn't a God. Dawkins emphasized that he is no such agnostic.
Agnostics are quite respectable people !!

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Lincoln wrote:
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Kennedy then asked, "Why don't you call yourself an agnostic then?"
Dawkins replied, "I do."
Dawkins then explained that he believes there are gradations of agnosticism. He is of the opinion that there are agnostics who feel that although they cannot know, for sure, whether or not a God exists, they conclude -to their satisfaction - that there is a 50-50 chance there is, or isn't a God. Dawkins emphasized that he is no such agnostic.
Agnostics are quite respectable people !!
The lying creationist weasel returns to spread his god-lies once again.
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Lincoln wrote:
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Kennedy then asked, "Why don't you call yourself an agnostic then?"
Dawkins replied, "I do."
Dawkins then explained that he believes there are gradations of agnosticism. He is of the opinion that there are agnostics who feel that although they cannot know, for sure, whether or not a God exists, they conclude -to their satisfaction - that there is a 50-50 chance there is, or isn't a God. Dawkins emphasized that he is no such agnostic.
Agnostics are quite respectable people !!
Some are - but I do not see the point in being a mere agnostic and saying one does not know and leaving it at that. Why doesn't one also have a guess or an opinion or a belief, and openly acknowledge it (unless one is in danger of being persecuted by true believers), without claiming to know it is true?
Again - Skeptic is not a typical atheist, and not even respectable in my view, since he falsely accuses and is nasty and personal, and claims to know there is no God and attacks anyone who does not think he is right (about his knowing!)
Those of us who are agnostic-atheists do not use silly formulas like a 50/50 chance. agnostic means not claiming to know - and that includes not claiming to know the odds! many agnostics are both agnostic and atheist in our views, the two go together very nicely. One whose attitude is one of not believing and not claiming to know is a very sensible and modest viewpoint, and does not need to insult others (unless they really ask for it by being arrogant and nasty like Skeptic does!)
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has, not is, in last sentence - has a very sensible and modest viewpoint.
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NT wrote:
MUQ, how do you know god is merciful ?
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The question is very simple, but answer requires books upon books, in Quran Allah says "If you (try to) count Allah's bounties, you will not be able do so".

So I will just give you one more example:

11: Cattle (Goat, Sheep, Cows and Camels) and Horse, Mule and Donkey

These are great gifts from God to us. It was He who has made them domesticated and how many benefits we drive from these cattles we do not fully realize.

They provide us with milk, and wool and carry heavy loads for us.

We use their meat, if it was not for Gift of God, we would be unable to digest their meat.

And if we include Horse also in that list, then that wonderful animal has done much for the warfare of humans in the past generations.

Donkeys and mules and other animals serve humans in different roles.

If it was not the mercy of God, we would be unable to use these animals in the way we do it.

But very few of us ever realize, what a great gift and mercy of our Creator are these cattles and animals, that we become Lord over them and treat them in not so good manner.

Please reflect on this great gift of God to us and try to thank Him, if you could.

How much money we spend and We thank Doctors and all others who helped us, but do we ever thank God for His Free Gift to us?

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MUQ wrote:
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The question is very simple, but answer requires books upon books, in Quran Allah says "If you (try to) count Allah's bounties, you will not be able do so".
So I will just give you one more example:
11: Cattle (Goat, Sheep, Cows and Camels) and Horse, Mule and Donkey
These are great gifts from God to us. It was He who has made them domesticated and how many benefits we drive from these cattles we do not fully realize.
They provide us with milk, and wool and carry heavy loads for us.
We use their meat, if it was not for Gift of God, we would be unable to digest their meat.
And if we include Horse also in that list, then that wonderful animal has done much for the warfare of humans in the past generations.
Donkeys and mules and other animals serve humans in different roles.
If it was not the mercy of God, we would be unable to use these animals in the way we do it.
But very few of us ever realize, what a great gift and mercy of our Creator are these cattles and animals, that we become Lord over them and treat them in not so good manner.
Please reflect on this great gift of God to us and try to thank Him, if you could.
How much money we spend and We thank Doctors and all others who helped us, but do we ever thank God for His Free Gift to us?
I will thank a god the day we are free of mentally sick people like you and your barbaric treatment of little girls.

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