Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24178 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Thinking

Poole, UK

#15964 May 22, 2013
It's already happening in the better countries.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12799801

You don't have to be an Atheist to give up on religion.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
What is the topic of this Thread?
"Atheism to replace religion by 2038"!!
Who is talking about replacement?
Atheists?
Blowing their own trumpet!!
PS:
And most countries where the "virus" of Atheism is growing faster are the earlier Christian countries.
I do not know if there is any connection between the two.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#15965 May 23, 2013
Sweden isn't communist and they are doing very well.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>Is there any "atheist country" in the world?

I did not know that!!

The "Only" atheist countries in the world were Communists and every one knows what they did to the world and to their own people.

No one knows any people who were more brutal to their own people than these Atheists.

Want to copy their model and conduct?
Thinking

Poole, UK

#15966 May 23, 2013
Totalitarianism, whether religious or not, is wrong.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Is there any "atheist country" in the world?
I did not know that!!
The "Only" atheist countries in the world were Communists and every one knows what they did to the world and to their own people.
No one knows any people who were more brutal to their own people than these Atheists.
Want to copy their model and conduct?
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#15967 May 23, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Sweden isn't communist and they are doing very well.
<quoted text>
As is Norway, Denmark, France, Netherlands, the UK, Quebec (v. low practising), Japan, and others.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#15968 May 23, 2013
MUQ, do you condemn the machete attack in London? which the government is treating as a terrorist incident.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22633269

Reports say they tried to behead the victim shouting Allah Akbar
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#15969 May 23, 2013
Here are some recent UK terrorist plots:

The July 7 atrocity saw 52 people killed by four suicide bombers on London's transport network. Since then, there have been a number of other plots - the first coming just two weeks after July 7.

Another group of four bombers had attempted to replicate the earlier attack but their plan failed. They were caught and each jailed for life.

A 2006 plan to blow up aircraft being flown between the UK, America and Canada using liquid explosives which led to 12 people being jailed.

A plot to attack UK and US targets with a 'dirty bomb' and gas-filled limousines that saw al Qaida operative Dhiren Barot sentenced to 30 years in jail in 2006, and seven other men linked to the plot jailed the following year.

Plans to target shopping centres and nightclubs using fertiliser-based explosives that led to five men being jailed for life in 2007.

The attempted murder of Stephen Timms MP, who was stabbed by Roshonara Choudry. The student, who was said to have been inspired by extremist sermons she watched on the internet, was convicted of attempted murder in 2010.

A plan to attack the London Stock Exchange, which saw nine members of a terrorist network later receive sentences of between five and 17 years each in February 2012

the Woolwich incident mirrors a plot which saw a Birmingham man jailed for life in 2008 for plotting to kidnap and kill a British Muslim soldier.

Parviz Khan admitted planning to lure the soldier off the streets with the promise of drugs - then film his beheading.

this is just a sample.

According to M15, there have been a total of 2,291 arrests under the Terrorism Act between September 11, 2001, and 30 September, 2012 and 312 people have been convicted of terrorism-related offences
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#15970 May 23, 2013
Muq, this is the state of the world we live in today. And you wonder why we reject religion, and yours in strong terms.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#15971 May 23, 2013
Yet for some reason the godbots do not like bringing those countries up.... How odd almost as of they want to purposely omit key facts from their argument.
spudgun wrote:
<quoted text>As is Norway, Denmark, France, Netherlands, the UK, Quebec (v. low practising), Japan, and others.
henry

Herbsleben, Germany

#15972 May 23, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
It is a result of the indoctrination of the religious nonsense. Since all of them start this indoctrination when they are young, it's very difficult to actually break it all. A conflict of such cannot exist forever though, eventually they will crack and either break free of the indoctrination completely, seeing the danger of the delusion and thus knowing we need to reduce it's presence in the species, or they will relapse. Sadly many do relapse and drop back into the delusional world of faeries, goblins, and gods.
A religious nonsense is a religious nonsense, even when billions of men believe in it! A myth is still a myth!
henry

Herbsleben, Germany

#15973 May 23, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> I agree with some of that comment. Mostly the philosophical part, not necessarily the medical part. I do think that people can become addicted to being addicted, starting with young people becoming addicted to salt sugar and fat, and making them thus easier to trap into addiction to cigarettes and other addictive substances. It is no accident that cigarette makers have joined with the snack food makers into big corporations.
You are correct that atheism is merely not believing in a God, gods, god, or Gods,(usually those that one has heard about - not all possible definitions). I think not believing can have some wonderful consequences, in that one can take more responsibility for not harming others or the planet if one does not think that there will be a superhero to rescue them somehow. Not all atheists take on that additional responsibility, however.
And not all Christians are more careless because they trust that God will fix things. The link between theology and ethics are not that clearly limited - there are too many variations to be able to generalize. I value ethics more than I do theology, and am friendly toward ethical persons with silly religious beliefs - moreso than liking unkind persons however enlightened about not believing in theological nonsense. But on topix, I can at least agree with the enlightened ones.
In person, I would prefer the ethical religious ones to unethical agnostics, skeptics, atheists. According to my ethics, which I would call informed, effective kindness.(on the grand scale of politics and internationalism, as well as the personal sort)
All religions are hostile to the development of humanity!
henry

Herbsleben, Germany

#15974 May 23, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
lins, not link - above t00 many strands to explain.
but in general, there is a left, center, and rightwing variety within many religions, denominations, and ideological philosophical systems. I like the center left best, a nice mix of liberty and protection of the weak and vulnerable and innocent. A nice mix of kindness and helpfulness with self-preservation.
Any religions are hostile to the development of humanity!
henry

Herbsleben, Germany

#15975 May 23, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> I agree with some of that comment. Mostly the philosophical part, not necessarily the medical part. I do think that people can become addicted to being addicted, starting with young people becoming addicted to salt sugar and fat, and making them thus easier to trap into addiction to cigarettes and other addictive substances. It is no accident that cigarette makers have joined with the snack food makers into big corporations.
You are correct that atheism is merely not believing in a God, gods, god, or Gods,(usually those that one has heard about - not all possible definitions). I think not believing can have some wonderful consequences, in that one can take more responsibility for not harming others or the planet if one does not think that there will be a superhero to rescue them somehow. Not all atheists take on that additional responsibility, however.
And not all Christians are more careless because they trust that God will fix things. The link between theology and ethics are not that clearly limited - there are too many variations to be able to generalize. I value ethics more than I do theology, and am friendly toward ethical persons with silly religious beliefs - moreso than liking unkind persons however enlightened about not believing in theological nonsense. But on topix, I can at least agree with the enlightened ones.
In person, I would prefer the ethical religious ones to unethical agnostics, skeptics, atheists. According to my ethics, which I would call informed, effective kindness.(on the grand scale of politics and internationalism, as well as the personal sort)
All religions is nonsense and hostile to mankind!
henry

Herbsleben, Germany

#15976 May 23, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
They probably beat it into them.
Religions are nothing just big lies in the interests of the billionairs!
henry

Herbsleben, Germany

#15977 May 23, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> I agree with some of that comment. Mostly the philosophical part, not necessarily the medical part. I do think that people can become addicted to being addicted, starting with young people becoming addicted to salt sugar and fat, and making them thus easier to trap into addiction to cigarettes and other addictive substances. It is no accident that cigarette makers have joined with the snack food makers into big corporations.
You are correct that atheism is merely not believing in a God, gods, god, or Gods,(usually those that one has heard about - not all possible definitions). I think not believing can have some wonderful consequences, in that one can take more responsibility for not harming others or the planet if one does not think that there will be a superhero to rescue them somehow. Not all atheists take on that additional responsibility, however.
And not all Christians are more careless because they trust that God will fix things. The link between theology and ethics are not that clearly limited - there are too many variations to be able to generalize. I value ethics more than I do theology, and am friendly toward ethical persons with silly religious beliefs - moreso than liking unkind persons however enlightened about not believing in theological nonsense. But on topix, I can at least agree with the enlightened ones.
In person, I would prefer the ethical religious ones to unethical agnostics, skeptics, atheists. According to my ethics, which I would call informed, effective kindness.(on the grand scale of politics and internationalism, as well as the personal sort)
Religions are the most silly Thing in a life of human beings!
henry

Herbsleben, Germany

#15978 May 23, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> I agree with some of that comment. Mostly the philosophical part, not necessarily the medical part. I do think that people can become addicted to being addicted, starting with young people becoming addicted to salt sugar and fat, and making them thus easier to trap into addiction to cigarettes and other addictive substances. It is no accident that cigarette makers have joined with the snack food makers into big corporations.
You are correct that atheism is merely not believing in a God, gods, god, or Gods,(usually those that one has heard about - not all possible definitions). I think not believing can have some wonderful consequences, in that one can take more responsibility for not harming others or the planet if one does not think that there will be a superhero to rescue them somehow. Not all atheists take on that additional responsibility, however.
And not all Christians are more careless because they trust that God will fix things. The link between theology and ethics are not that clearly limited - there are too many variations to be able to generalize. I value ethics more than I do theology, and am friendly toward ethical persons with silly religious beliefs - moreso than liking unkind persons however enlightened about not believing in theological nonsense. But on topix, I can at least agree with the enlightened ones.
In person, I would prefer the ethical religious ones to unethical agnostics, skeptics, atheists. According to my ethics, which I would call informed, effective kindness.(on the grand scale of politics and internationalism, as well as the personal sort)
Religions are stealing costly life time of a men!
henry

Herbsleben, Germany

#15979 May 23, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>We aren't your students. I and others have offered detailed responses explaining exactly what is so perverse and ignorant in what you write. You just 'don't like line by line..' you want others to 'compose their thoughts'. Yours aren't composed better than ours and perhasp most people here, like me, seem quite disgusted by how ignorant you are.
You may know your version of Islam, but you understand almost no other point of view.
Religions are stealing men costly life time!
henry

Herbsleben, Germany

#15980 May 23, 2013
Matt Road wrote:
<quoted text>
Is freedom, liberation with the truth that there is no God.
Take someone with crutches, they have walking aids. A person without doesn't have them, the negative is being without them, it needs no replacement, they walk unaided.
To parrot what's been said to you, it is a negative definition. To ask for a positive one is like asking what's in a vacuum.
God, does not require replacement as something which never existed does not require replacement. When children grow out of believing in Santa Claus it doesn't get replaced. Actually, it does for some with God. Replace religion with something would just make it religion by another name. Like someone who gives up smoking, they replace cigarettes with substitutes but with luck long term there is no replacement.
Really isn't a better way to define it, the very word simply means no theism. You're asking for a negative constructed word to be turned into a positive, perhaps to make a counter-point, so why not make your counter-point already. You can't turn words into something else or they become other words. Trying to think of another analogy word, perhaps (vacuum, empty) clear... ask what clear is cluttered up with or what colour it is or something.
Religion is just a waste of costly life time!
henry

Herbsleben, Germany

#15981 May 23, 2013
jacktheladat1 wrote:
<quoted text>In MY experience, "probably" isn't in the equation, It WAS beaten into me/us, school/home/Sunday School/neighbours, Uncle Tom Cobbly & all!
Of course, Religion is a crime against the human education!

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#15982 May 23, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
No. An atheist is one who believes there are no gods.
Your definition would include agnostics, verificationists, and all pets.
No I do not believe in any gods.

BUT I do believe you are an annoyance.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#15983 May 23, 2013
Very Cynical Person wrote:
<quoted text>No I do not believe in any gods.
BUT I do believe you are an annoyance.
That takes no faith at all: just reading a random selection of the Buckster's vile postings?

Is more than ample evidence he's not only annoying?

But likely a sociopath too.

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