Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24182 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Lincoln

United States

#15794 May 15, 2013
spudgun wrote:
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Regardless of the religious beliefs of Stalin, Hitler etc. The fact is that the hypothetical Deity does nothing to stop wars. Clearly such a being if it exists is completely inert and inactive. Further evidence supporting the viewpoint that gods do not exist.
You denial noted as well as your cherry picking history.:-)
Lincoln

United States

#15795 May 15, 2013
spudgun wrote:
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That is wishful thinking on your part. It is also disrespectful of other religions.
If you view alternative belief systems as equally valid as your own, then maybe people here will cut you some slack.
These alternative religions evolved separately to your own. This is why people in the far east generally, do give a fig about the Abrahamic beliefs.
If you think about it clearly you can conclude that the only rational position is to be outside of all the religions altogether.

No "God" would teach different groups of people contradictory faiths. And no "God" is going to let people go off in separate directions. For thousands of years people have been in conflict and war over religion. You would expect a compassionate Deity to step in, and say "Hey guys, religion X, Y and Z are wrong, you should be following Q". Yet silence...
"No "God" would teach different groups of people contradictory faiths."

funny as you define the powers of "your straw-man God"

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#15796 May 15, 2013
He was already caught red handed stealing the writings of others passing them off as his own.

He was proven wrong on his Stalin, Hitler rambling months ago but seeing as how he is unable to come up with anything on his own but only steal from others he won't be able to come up with a response. It seems he relies on recycling other's posts as his English is questionable.

You are correct in your assertion sadly that one is incapable of an actual back and forth dialog.
spudgun wrote:
<quoted text>Regardless of the religious beliefs of Stalin, Hitler etc. The fact is that the hypothetical Deity does nothing to stop wars. Clearly such a being if it exists is completely inert and inactive. Further evidence supporting the viewpoint that gods do not exist.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#15797 May 15, 2013
Sadly his historical inaccuracies have been pointed out before, he is actually just recycling his old posts that he stole before. He will not have a rebuttal to your historical facts.

Not to mention Stalin to this day is adored in Russia and is even a saint in his beloved Orthodox Church.

As has been stated before, none of Stalin's crimes against humanity was done in the name of atheism nor is a single atheist on here quoting Stalin in any debates on why they are an Atheist and that Christian fundie knows it.
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>For chrissake Lincoln you're wrong on almost everything!

There was a marked increase in the attacks on the churches of the USSR throughout the 1930’s. Communism had taught people that religion was "the opium of the masses" (Karl Marx) and church leaders were arrested and churches physically shut down. Stalin could not allow a challenge to his position and anybody who worshipped God was a challenge as the "personality cult" was meant for people to worship Stalin.

For a short time under Lenin, women had enjoyed a much freer status in that life for them was a lot more liberal when compared to the ‘old days’.

Among other things, divorce was made a lot more easy under Lenin. Stalin changed all this. He put the emphasis on the family. There was a reason for this.

Many children had been born out of marriage and Moscow by 1930 was awash with a very high number of homeless children who had no family and, as such, were a stain on the perfect communist society that Stalin was trying to create.

Was Stalin a disaster for Russia?

• the country did become a major industrial nation by 1939 and her progress was unmatched in the era of the Depression in America and western Europe where millions were unemployed.

• those workers who did not offend the state were better off than under the reign of the tsar.

• Russia’s military forces were benefiting from her industrial growth.

• there was a stable government under Stalin.

• people had access to much better medical care some 10 years before the National Health Service was introduced in GB.

BUT:

• millions had died in famine after the failed experiment of collectivisation.

• Russia’s agriculture was at the same level in 1939 as in 1928 with a 40 million increased population.

• Russia had become a ‘telling’ society. The secret police actively encouraged people to inform on neighbours, work mates etc. and many suffered simply as a result of jealous neighbours/workers.

Also many of Russia's most talented people had been murdered during the Purges of the 1930's. Anyone with talent was seen as a threat by the increasingly paranoid behaviour associated with Stalin and were killed or imprisoned (which usually lead to death anyway). The vast Soviet army was a body without a brain as most of her senior officers had been arrested and murdered during the Purges.

You should give up trying to blame atheists for all the problems your religions have created.

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/Stalins%...
Lincoln

United States

#15798 May 15, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Sadly his historical inaccuracies have been pointed out before, he is actually just recycling his old posts that he stole before. He will not have a rebuttal to your historical facts.
Not to mention Stalin to this day is adored in Russia and is even a saint in his beloved Orthodox Church.
As has been stated before, none of Stalin's crimes against humanity was done in the name of atheism nor is a single atheist on here quoting Stalin in any debates on why they are an Atheist and that Christian fundie knows it.
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"As has been stated before" as if this is proof,-- funny

" none of Stalin's crimes against humanity was done in the name of atheism"

None --- is funny

Denial of history is common when confronted with crimes of dictators using atheism.

Militant atheism was an integral part of the French Revolution, Soviet Union under Lenin and Stalin, Red China's Cultural Revolution..... etc etc

Stay in Denial?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#15799 May 15, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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The atheists bloodied the 20the century under atheist Stalin.
Then all other wars are to blame on religion, which draws your tally to billions.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#15800 May 15, 2013
Your inability to comprehend English, funny.

Your atrociously bad grammar, funny.

Your inability to show where any of these leaders committed these crimes against humanity in the name of atheism, funny.

Your ignorance in historical maters, funny.

All of your poorly worded arguments here have been repeatedly, factually refuted. Sadly you are unable to comprehend because you do not speak or read English well enough.

What is your native language? Perhaps we can get these debunked claims of yours posted in your native language so you can understand.

:))
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>"As has been stated before" as if this is proof,-- funny

" none of Stalin's crimes against humanity was done in the name of atheism"

None --- is funny

Denial of history is common when confronted with crimes of dictators using atheism.

Militant atheism was an integral part of the French Revolution, Soviet Union under Lenin and Stalin, Red China's Cultural Revolution..... etc etc

Stay in Denial?
Lincoln

United States

#15801 May 15, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Then all other wars are to blame on religion, which draws your tally to billions.
A generalization which one might investigate
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#15802 May 15, 2013
A great youtube video, "Religion vs Atheism"


Conversation between an Atheist bear and a Christian bear, funny.
Imhotep

Winter Garden, FL

#15803 May 15, 2013
spudgun wrote:
A great youtube video, "Religion vs Atheism"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =UudKykLu4TYXX
Conversation between an Atheist bear and a Christian bear, funny.
Excellent!

This short video perfectly describes 95% of all theist posters in our forums!
Imhotep

Winter Garden, FL

#15804 May 15, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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"As has been stated before" as if this is proof,-- funny
" none of Stalin's crimes against humanity was done in the name of atheism"
None --- is funny
Denial of history is common when confronted with crimes of dictators using atheism.
Militant atheism was an integral part of the French Revolution, Soviet Union under Lenin and Stalin, Red China's Cultural Revolution..... etc etc
Stay in Denial?
Stalin and all your alleged villains can't compare with this monster...

Your own book provides the evidence!

1- The entire population of the earth at the time of Noah, except for eight survivors.(Genesis 7:23)

THIS TOPS EVERYTHING! Mass murder 101
But but but he loves you!

2- Everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah.(Genesis 19:24,25)
3- Amalek and his people.(Exodus 17:816)
4- 3,000 Israelites.(Exodus 32:27,28)
5- 14,700 Jews.(Numbers 16:4449)
6- The people of Og. "So they smote him, and his sons, and all his people, until there was none left him alive: and they possessed his land." (Numbers 21:3335)
7- 24,000 people.(Numbers 25:49)
8- All Midianite males.(Numbers 31:612)
9- The Ammonites.(Deuteronomy 2:1921)
10-The Horims.(Deuteronomy 2:22)
11-The Amorites. "…utterly destroyed the men and the women and the little ones." (Deuteronomy 2:3335)
12-The Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites. "... thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them;" (Deuteronomy 7:15)
13- Everyone in Jericho but one family.(Joshua 6:2025)
14-12,000 people of Ai.(Joshua 8:1929)
15-All the people of Makkedah.(Joshua 10:28)
16-All the people of Libnah.(Joshua 10:29,30)
17-All the people of Gezer.(Joshua 10:33)
18-All the people of Eglon.(Joshua 10:34,35)
19-All the people of Hebron.(Joshua 10:36,37)
20-10,000 Perizzites and Canaanites.(Judges 1:4)
21-All the inhabitants of the land of Goshen "... neither left they any to breathe." (Joshua 11:1216)
22-The inhabitants of Hormah, Gaza, Askelon, Ekron.(Judges 1:1719)
23-10,000 Moabites.(Judges 3:29)
24-600 Philistines.(Judges 3:31)
25-All the hosts of Sisera.(Judges 4:16)
26-120,000 Midianites.(Judges 8:10)
27-1,000 Philistines.(Judges 15:15)
28-25,100 Benjaminites.(Judges 20:35)
29-50,070 people of Bethshemesh.(1 Samuel 6:19)
30-All the Amalekites. "Slay both man and woman, infant and suckling…." (1 Samuel 15:37)
31-200 Philistine men, in order to obtain their foreskins as the price for buying a bride.(1 Samuel 18:27)
32-22,000 Syrians.(2 Samuel 8:5)
33-40,000+ Syrians.(2 Samuel 10:18)
34-The Ammonites of Rabbah, who were tortured to death by the great King David.(2 Samuel 12:2931)
35-70,000 people.(2 Samuel 24:15)
36-Every man in Edom.(1 Kings 11:15)
37-All the prophets of Baal.(1 Kings 18:40)
38-127,000 Syrians.(1 Kings 20:2830)
39-Moabite captains & "fifties." (2 Kings 1:914)
40-42 children, eaten by bears.(2 Kings 2:23,24)
41-185,000 Assyrians killed in their sleep.(2 Kings 19:35)
42-500,000 men of Israel.(2 Chronicles 13:1620)
43-20,000 Edomites.(2 Chronicles 25:11,12)
44-120,000 Judeans in one day.(2 Chronicles 28:5,6)
45-75,500+ people.(Esther 9:1214)
Imhotep

Winter Garden, FL

#15805 May 15, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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"As has been stated before" as if this is proof,-- funny
" none of Stalin's crimes against humanity was done in the name of atheism"
None --- is funny
Denial of history is common when confronted with crimes of dictators using atheism.
Militant atheism was an integral part of the French Revolution, Soviet Union under Lenin and Stalin, Red China's Cultural Revolution..... etc etc
Stay in Denial?
Awe...

But there's so much more! "And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt…." (Exodus 12:29) "Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." (Hosea 13:16)

What sort of God would order such a thing? It's painful just to read those ugly words. But it's a popular theme in the Bible. "Every one that is found shall be thrust through….Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes….and their wives ravished. Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare children." (Isaiah 13:13-22) Is this not all revolting? Yet there are repeated references to slashing open the stomachs of pregnant women. "….because they opened not to him, therefore he smote it; and all the women therein that were with child he ripped up." (2 Kings 15:16)

Enough already.

"They took the king's sons, and slew seventy persons, and put their heads in baskets, and sent him them to Jezreel. And there came a messenger, and told him, saying, They have brought the heads of the king's sons. And he said, Lay ye them in two heaps at the entering in of the gate until the morning." (2 Kings 10:7,8) Baskets full of heads?

Try to picture such a thing. Sickening.

"And there was a great famine in Samaria….And the king said unto her, What aileth thee? And she answered, This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him to day, and we will eat my son to morrow. So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son." (2 Kings 6:25-29) I cannot think of a worse thing to write about than eating your own children.

That whole scenario is so appalling it nauseates. Boiled her son?

She says it like it was no big deal. Did she boil him like a lobster, just drop the squirming infant into boiling water, or did she kill him first before putting him in the pot? I know it's sickening to think about such things; so why on earth is such a horrible story in the "holy" Bible?

Your turn - explain your book for us, should be easy
henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#15806 May 15, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
The question is very simple, but answer requires books upon books, in Quran Allah says "If you (try to) count Allah's bounties, you will not be able do so".
So I will just give you one more example:
5. Our Arms and our Legs:
Have you ever pondered what wonderful things our hands and our feet are?
We take them for granted and never realize their beauty and the finer points in their design.
How delicate are the joints and how "well lubricated" can any human machine compare with them?
How many millions of operations they perform, before getting "worn out"
And our finger prints are a "sure proof of our individuality" even the nails are a sort of "natural health bulletin" of our interior organs.
The more you reflect on your hands and feet, the more wonderstruck you would of God' Mercy.
When some things go wrong, we go to doctors and they find a remedy for us.
How much money we spend and We thank Doctors and all others who helped us, but do we ever thank God for His Free Gift to us?
Please reflect?
Why should we a nonexisting god thank? We have a healthy Spirit and have no use for any myths!
henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#15807 May 15, 2013
spudgun wrote:
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Regardless of the religious beliefs of Stalin, Hitler etc. The fact is that the hypothetical Deity does nothing to stop wars. Clearly such a being if it exists is completely inert and inactive. Further evidence supporting the viewpoint that gods do not exist.
You Forget US presidents, which never stopped wars! Since the beginning of a Nation they began almost annihilate the native Population for centuries.
henry

Chemnitz, Germany

#15808 May 15, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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The atheists bloodied the 20the century under atheist Stalin.
You Forget US presidents bloodbaths for instance in Korea, Vietnam and so many crimes just alone in the 20th centuries! The Atom bombs have been sactified by religious americans. They which are sitting in a glass house should not throw with Stones!
henry

Chemnitz, Germany

#15809 May 15, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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The atheists bloodied the 20the century under atheist Stalin.
In indonesia 3 Million People got killed by the Suharto Regime after 1945. The USA has never ceased with wars around the world for Imperialism. Capitalism and wars are twins.
henry

Chemnitz, Germany

#15810 May 15, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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I cannot disagree. And as soon as we can begin putting atheists in SCOTUS, we can then begin a return to civil rights for everyone.
And and end of religious bigotry/special interests.
In the atomic Age Religion is anything but superflous.
henry

Chemnitz, Germany

#15811 May 15, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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The atheists bloodied the 20the century under atheist Stalin.
What about the endless wars of the USA inside and outside this Country?
henry

Chemnitz, Germany

#15812 May 15, 2013
spudgun wrote:
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Regardless of the religious beliefs of Stalin, Hitler etc. The fact is that the hypothetical Deity does nothing to stop wars. Clearly such a being if it exists is completely inert and inactive. Further evidence supporting the viewpoint that gods do not exist.
When George Bush was in Office he told us he had talks every day with god. Was that the alcohol which spoke to us??
henry

Chemnitz, Germany

#15813 May 15, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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The atheists bloodied the 20the century under atheist Stalin.
How about the Atom bombs from Harry Truman when Japan was offering capitulation? How about the Wars of USA against Korea, Vietnam and so on? From the beginning as a Nation the United States has always led wars inside and outside.

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