Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24181 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#15771 May 14, 2013
Nice observation! And actually many of the believers on here sound like a pro wrestler doing a promo.... Observe...

So those atheists want to point out observable proof for natural processes! Are we gonna take that Christ-a-maniacs? Oh hell no! We gonna take a scientist's quote out of context and drop it in the middle of the ring for the big man upstairs! And that's the bottom line because Christhole said so!

Lmfao!
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>I never underestimate the power of willfully stupid people's desire to remain willfully stupid (religion).

NASCAR is proof enough of such things...

.... and "championship" wrestling...
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#15772 May 14, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Our engineers make aeroplanes which are orders of magnitude better than they were 110 years ago.
Our joints have not become orders of magnitude better in the same timescale.
Still sounds like your god is a sh*t designer.
PS muslims can tell me to keep "quite" [sic] until their circumcision scars drop off for all I care.
<quoted text>
Want to put your wits against the wit of Creator of Universe?

When you are capable of moving s planet of the size of Sun, then you come up and post.

And there are planets Billions of times bigger than our sun in the Cosmos!!

And the same God moves electrons around the nucleus and even electron has a structure!!

From lowest to biggest, He controls everything.

I never knew , you people would be "so thick" to put your "achievements" before the Creator of this Universe.

That is what happens when you start "believing" in some thing as stupid as Atheism!!
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#15773 May 14, 2013
Libertarian wrote:
MUQ
If you know evolutionary biology you would see that many humans have knee, hip and pelvis problems because we didn't evolve standing upright.
Nature cannot go back to the drawing board, it has to use what it already has.
Thats just on that one tiny point. I could type for 2 whole days on the problems caused by (if you believe our bodies were designed by a deity) such a rubbish physical design.
I could design a better body than your god did.
Eg Blind spot in the eyes. why would your god make a blind spot, why would he put the eye in upside down? Lactose intolerance, why has you god decided not to give the gene to digest lactose as an adult to some people.
If you think our bodies are perfect then you're wrong. Do you trust doctors? Careful because they will base their knowledge on actual scientific knowledge.
First you go to "your own drawing board" and make some thing which is even 1 % more efficient and reliable that what God made!!

It is very east to find fault and lecture others, when you do not have to do any thing.

Ask experts in any field that they will tell you some of the beauties and marvels about every thing that God created. And they know only a small part of it!!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#15774 May 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Want to put your wits against the wit of Creator of Universe?
When you are capable of moving s planet of the size of Sun, then you come up and post.
And there are planets Billions of times bigger than our sun in the Cosmos!!
And the same God moves electrons around the nucleus and even electron has a structure!!
From lowest to biggest, He controls everything.
I never knew , you people would be "so thick" to put your "achievements" before the Creator of this Universe.
That is what happens when you start "believing" in some thing as stupid as Atheism!!
You have failed to explain why you worship a child-raper, Moohumud.

How is this possible?

Your "prophet" is nothing short of a sociopath!

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#15775 May 14, 2013
So it was Allah's great idea to make us with wisdom teeth and the appendix?

Lmfao!

I could create a better functioning person with little to no effort.

But then again you think Allah says it is fine to sell your daughter at age 6 into marriage against her will.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>Want to put your wits against the wit of Creator of Universe?
From lowest to biggest, He controls everything!!
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#15777 May 14, 2013
SG wrote:
That was fine in the 7th century. We now live in the 21st century, yet you continue to think like a 7th century Bedouin. Isn't it time to move on and hold more reasonable views which match today's standards of ethics.
Ans.

What has changed in 7th century CE to 21st Century?

Are humans born is some one "Non 7th Century CE way"?

Do not humans in 21st century Eat, Drink, have sex, have children and die as they were doing in 7th Century?

Are theft, robbing, fornication, adultery, rape, lying, forgery not crimes in 21st Century as they were in 7th Century?

There are some fundamental truths that do not change with time.

Whether it was in 5000 Year BC, or 700 CE or 2500 CE.

Same goes for ethics, the basics do not change with time. But their application and modes might change with time.

Homosexuality was always a Sin, and Sexual perversion in 5000 BC, 0 CE, 700 CE, 2000 CE or 3000 CE.
Imhotep

Brandon, FL

#15778 May 14, 2013
In the strange but true department we have this...

I call this 1000% on the irony meter which of course exploded!

It's those darn Catholics again! ;)

In medieval Europe, the Catholic Church not only condoned prostitution, but allowed it to be run out of the monasteries and convents. The phrase, "get thee to a nunnery" had nothing to do with a convent of "nuns" but rather the "nunnery" was a brothel. The exhortation was given to young men to keep them from trying to corrupt the virgin daughters of the townspeople.

In 1254, King Louis IX of France, decreed that all prostitutes be regarded as outlaws after it was discovered that a Parisian prostitute sat next to the queen of France in Church, and the queen, as was her custom, bestowed a kiss on her.When the identity of the woman reached the ears of the king, he decided that the only way to prevent future incidents was to outlaw prostitution throughout his kingdom....

"Prostitution: An Illustrated Social History " Vern&Bonnie Bullough/ Crown Books 1978

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php...

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#15779 May 14, 2013
Yes the rest of the world has progressed Muq, it is only in savage backwards places like yours that is stuck in the 7th century.

That's why civilized people look upon violent savages like you as beasts.
MUQ wrote:
Ans.

What has changed in 7th century CE to 21st Century?

Are humans born is some one "Non 7th Century CE way"?

Do not humans in 21st century Eat, Drink, have sex, have children and die as they were doing in 7th Century?

Are theft, robbing, fornication, adultery, rape, lying, forgery not crimes in 21st Century as they were in 7th Century?

There are some fundamental truths that do not change with time.

Whether it was in 5000 Year BC, or 700 CE or 2500 CE.

Same goes for ethics, the basics do not change with time. But their application and modes might change with time.

Homosexuality was always a Sin, and Sexual perversion in 5000 BC, 0 CE, 700 CE, 2000 CE or 3000 CE.
Thinking

Bishops Stortford, UK

#15781 May 14, 2013
Guess what, I can criticise a chair without building one myself.

Your creator is a really sh*t designer.

If your god exists, it is incompetent.
It is very likely therefore that there is no designer.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Want to put your wits against the wit of Creator of Universe?
When you are capable of moving s planet of the size of Sun, then you come up and post.
And there are planets Billions of times bigger than our sun in the Cosmos!!
And the same God moves electrons around the nucleus and even electron has a structure!!
From lowest to biggest, He controls everything.
I never knew , you people would be "so thick" to put your "achievements" before the Creator of this Universe.
That is what happens when you start "believing" in some thing as stupid as Atheism!!
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#15782 May 15, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Guess what, I can criticise a chair without building one myself.
Your creator is a really sh*t designer.
If your god exists, it is incompetent.
It is very likely therefore that there is no designer.
<quoted text>
Yes you can criticise about the Chair, having no knowledge about how chairs are made.

You can criticise about skyscrapers how they are made.

You can criticise Jet Engines about "what hell of a noise they make"?

You can criticise about any thing and every thing in the world...

But if you are unable to make any thing better than what they are made, your criticism has no value.

PS:

To have a "bad quality product" in the market, when better quality products are available is exempt from this list.

The question is about the idea and the way it is to be done and how reliable it is.

To compare any man made gadget or design against what is created by God is sheer madness and every one knows it.

spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#15783 May 15, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I was watching NHK, the Japanese TV channel at breakfast. There was a documentary on a Shinto Shrine. There were monks, worshippers, people making prayers to guardian spirits. People would pray to wish for good luck. They were presenting offerings and prayers at the hall of worship. Some would put items in wishing barrels and put these out to sea. These were suppose to answer prayers and bring good fortune. They would be protected by guardian spirits.

According to you "prophets" were sent to every land to preach Islam. I guess the "prophets" sent to China and Japan messed up, cause their religion is way different to the desert myths of Moses, Jesus and Muhammed. That to me is absolute tock solid proof that religions are man made.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#15784 May 15, 2013
typo: rock :)

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#15786 May 15, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes you can criticise about the Chair, having no knowledge about how chairs are made.
You can criticise about skyscrapers how they are made.
You can criticise Jet Engines about "what hell of a noise they make"?
You can criticise about any thing and every thing in the world...
But if you are unable to make any thing better than what they are made, your criticism has no value.
PS:
To have a "bad quality product" in the market, when better quality products are available is exempt from this list.
The question is about the idea and the way it is to be done and how reliable it is.
To compare any man made gadget or design against what is created by God is sheer madness and every one knows it.
Still no word from you about:-
Thinking

Bishops Stortford, UK

#15787 May 15, 2013
Bollocks.

Your god, if it exists, is a sh*t designer.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes you can criticise about the Chair, having no knowledge about how chairs are made.
You can criticise about skyscrapers how they are made.
You can criticise Jet Engines about "what hell of a noise they make"?
You can criticise about any thing and every thing in the world...
But if you are unable to make any thing better than what they are made, your criticism has no value.
PS:
To have a "bad quality product" in the market, when better quality products are available is exempt from this list.
The question is about the idea and the way it is to be done and how reliable it is.
To compare any man made gadget or design against what is created by God is sheer madness and every one knows it.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#15788 May 15, 2013
spudgun wrote:
<quoted text>
I was watching NHK, the Japanese TV channel at breakfast. There was a documentary on a Shinto Shrine. There were monks, worshippers, people making prayers to guardian spirits. People would pray to wish for good luck. They were presenting offerings and prayers at the hall of worship. Some would put items in wishing barrels and put these out to sea. These were suppose to answer prayers and bring good fortune. They would be protected by guardian spirits.
According to you "prophets" were sent to every land to preach Islam. I guess the "prophets" sent to China and Japan messed up, cause their religion is way different to the desert myths of Moses, Jesus and Muhammed. That to me is absolute tock solid proof that religions are man made.
Many "nations" lost the message of their prophets and / or had them so much changed that there are very little traces left of original religions and they do not even know the name of their prophets.

China, Japan, India and many African nations come into this category.

Why, even Christianity is a scant shadow of what jesus taught. His teachings have been overshadowed by that 'Super Apostle" St. Paul.

Jesus never spoke about Trinity, or Original Sin or equating himself with God etc.

But since the mission of these prophets was ending when the Last and Final prophet appeared into the world, that is why his book and his teachings were preserved in the "most authentic" way that could be imagined.

What "elaborate arrangement" you saw in that Japanese temple can be seen in Indian temples and even in Christin churches, how carefully they dress and the music and candles and the perfume, and very elaborate and well planned orchestra etc.

Compared to all that, Muslims just stand in rows upon rows and listen to the recitation of Holy Quran thru the lips of Imam, who is leading the prayer and there is no music and singing.

For people who want "real spirituality" this is the way, you are alone with your God, listening to His words and nothing to distract you.

This is your choice, you take what you like, there is no compulsion in religion.

Allah Knows Best.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#15789 May 15, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Many "nations" lost the message of their prophets ..China, Japan, India and many African nations come into this category...
That is wishful thinking on your part. It is also disrespectful of other religions.

If you view alternative belief systems as equally valid as your own, then maybe people here will cut you some slack.

These alternative religions evolved separately to your own. This is why people in the far east generally, do give a fig about the Abrahamic beliefs.

If you think about it clearly you can conclude that the only rational position is to be outside of all the religions altogether.

No "God" would teach different groups of people contradictory faiths. And no "God" is going to let people go off in separate directions. For thousands of years people have been in conflict and war over religion. You would expect a compassionate Deity to step in, and say "Hey guys, religion X, Y and Z are wrong, you should be following Q". Yet silence...
Lincoln

United States

#15790 May 15, 2013
spudgun wrote:
<quoted text>
That is wishful thinking on your part. It is also disrespectful of other religions.
If you view alternative belief systems as equally valid as your own, then maybe people here will cut you some slack.
These alternative religions evolved separately to your own. This is why people in the far east generally, do give a fig about the Abrahamic beliefs.
If you think about it clearly you can conclude that the only rational position is to be outside of all the religions altogether.
No "God" would teach different groups of people contradictory faiths. And no "God" is going to let people go off in separate directions. For thousands of years people have been in conflict and war over religion. You would expect a compassionate Deity to step in, and say "Hey guys, religion X, Y and Z are wrong, you should be following Q". Yet silence...
The atheists bloodied the 20the century under atheist Stalin.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#15791 May 15, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
The atheists bloodied the 20the century under atheist Stalin.
Regardless of the religious beliefs of Stalin, Hitler etc. The fact is that the hypothetical Deity does nothing to stop wars. Clearly such a being if it exists is completely inert and inactive. Further evidence supporting the viewpoint that gods do not exist.

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#15792 May 15, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Many "nations" lost the message of their prophets and / or had them so much changed that there are very little traces left of original religions and they do not even know the name of their prophets.
China, Japan, India and many African nations come into this category.
Why, even Christianity is a scant shadow of what jesus taught. His teachings have been overshadowed by that 'Super Apostle" St. Paul.
Jesus never spoke about Trinity, or Original Sin or equating himself with God etc.
But since the mission of these prophets was ending when the Last and Final prophet appeared into the world, that is why his book and his teachings were preserved in the "most authentic" way that could be imagined.
What "elaborate arrangement" you saw in that Japanese temple can be seen in Indian temples and even in Christin churches, how carefully they dress and the music and candles and the perfume, and very elaborate and well planned orchestra etc.
Compared to all that, Muslims just stand in rows upon rows and listen to the recitation of Holy Quran thru the lips of Imam, who is leading the prayer and there is no music and singing.
For people who want "real spirituality" this is the way, you are alone with your God, listening to His words and nothing to distract you.
This is your choice, you take what you like, there is no compulsion in religion.
Allah Knows Best.
Still no word from you about:-


Why is that?
Imhotep

Winter Garden, FL

#15793 May 15, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
The atheists bloodied the 20the century under atheist Stalin.
For chrissake Lincoln you're wrong on almost everything!

There was a marked increase in the attacks on the churches of the USSR throughout the 1930’s. Communism had taught people that religion was "the opium of the masses" (Karl Marx) and church leaders were arrested and churches physically shut down. Stalin could not allow a challenge to his position and anybody who worshipped God was a challenge as the "personality cult" was meant for people to worship Stalin.

For a short time under Lenin, women had enjoyed a much freer status in that life for them was a lot more liberal when compared to the ‘old days’.

Among other things, divorce was made a lot more easy under Lenin. Stalin changed all this. He put the emphasis on the family. There was a reason for this.

Many children had been born out of marriage and Moscow by 1930 was awash with a very high number of homeless children who had no family and, as such, were a stain on the perfect communist society that Stalin was trying to create.

Was Stalin a disaster for Russia?

• the country did become a major industrial nation by 1939 and her progress was unmatched in the era of the Depression in America and western Europe where millions were unemployed.

• those workers who did not offend the state were better off than under the reign of the tsar.

• Russia’s military forces were benefiting from her industrial growth.

• there was a stable government under Stalin.

• people had access to much better medical care some 10 years before the National Health Service was introduced in GB.

BUT:

• millions had died in famine after the failed experiment of collectivisation.

• Russia’s agriculture was at the same level in 1939 as in 1928 with a 40 million increased population.

• Russia had become a ‘telling’ society. The secret police actively encouraged people to inform on neighbours, work mates etc. and many suffered simply as a result of jealous neighbours/workers.

Also many of Russia's most talented people had been murdered during the Purges of the 1930's. Anyone with talent was seen as a threat by the increasingly paranoid behaviour associated with Stalin and were killed or imprisoned (which usually lead to death anyway). The vast Soviet army was a body without a brain as most of her senior officers had been arrested and murdered during the Purges.

You should give up trying to blame atheists for all the problems your religions have created.

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/Stalins%...

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