Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24099 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Since: Dec 10

Nehwon

#15730 May 13, 2013
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Boom!

That was the sound of my joke passing over your head at Mach speed.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#15731 May 13, 2013
I predict we are about 12 years out from an openly atheist POTUS or VP.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>I suspect that more politicians in the US are "closet atheists" than we realize.

They are quick to realize that waving the idiotic flag of religion works wonders at getting stupid people to vote for them.

You can usually tell a likely atheist, by the way he or she votes, too:

** votes against abortion? Not atheist, likely True Believer™

** votes for marriage equality? Possibly atheist. True Believers™ are too bigoted.

** votes for equality of pay for workers? Possibly atheist, True Believers™ do not believe in equal pay.

** votes for unwinnable war of aggression, based on zero evidence, and lots of emotional appeals? Not an atheist-- not skeptical enough, likely a True Believer™, though-- True Believers™ are all FOR war against non-christian countries. They are so hypocritical about it, too.

** speaks out against science and/or evolution? Definately not atheist-- only idiots, stupid people and True Believers™ foolishly speak out against anything scientific.(yeah, I know those terms are mostly redundant...)

In any case, it's pretty easy to parse out who might be faking it, and who really believes in religious shyt.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#15732 May 13, 2013
He says what he needs to in order to keep the mouth breathers from screaming too loudly.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, that does piss them off to no end. Likely one of the reasons why he does it? To give them something trivial to be pissy about, so they ignore other, more important issues?

:D

Would Obama be that subtle? Well, he's highly intelligent and educated.... so...

;)

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Since: Dec 10

Nehwon

#15733 May 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. First of all it is not a "must" that as soon as boys and girl reach the age of marriage they be married.
It is a legal position, and any one doing so will not be breaking any rule or code of law.
Delaying marriage is individual's decision and it should remain like that.
02. Women traveling alone should have a male guardian with them, is to save women from hardship and save their personality.
We see so many cases of single women traveling alone, get molested in almost every country of the world.
Islam protects women and does not want to put them in dangerous situations.
Those doing so pay the price every now and then.
It is there choice, take it or leave it.
PS:
Nothing much has changed in 1400 years, human psychology has remained the same.
Only the men have become bolder and the crimes against women and violence is on the rise.
I'm only going to touch on the second point because you are more knowledgeable about Islam than I.

It was my impression that Mohammed would have liked that it was possible for a woman to travel alone safely without a male guardian. But he was pragmatic in that it was not possible during his time.

I have nothing to back that up other than what I've heard. So I'm asking you if there's any Islamic text behind that.

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Since: Dec 10

Nehwon

#15734 May 13, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
I predict we are about 12 years out from an openly atheist POTUS or VP.
<quoted text>
openly?

I'm a bit more cynical than you. My guess is we're at least 25 years away from that. Once the baby boomers are no longer a considerable voting bloc would that seem to gain traction.

But that might be countered with the growing Hispanic Catholics.

It's a bit hard to make a prediction how all it will all fall out in any Presidential election. Which makes it interesting times, indeed.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#15735 May 13, 2013
NT wrote:
MUQ, how do you know god is merciful ?
Ans.

The question is very simple, but answer requires books upon books, in Quran Allah says "If you (try to) count Allah's bounties, you will not be able do so".

So I will just give you one more example:

5. Our Arms and our Legs:

Have you ever pondered what wonderful things our hands and our feet are?

We take them for granted and never realize their beauty and the finer points in their design.

How delicate are the joints and how "well lubricated" can any human machine compare with them?

How many millions of operations they perform, before getting "worn out"

And our finger prints are a "sure proof of our individuality" even the nails are a sort of "natural health bulletin" of our interior organs.

The more you reflect on your hands and feet, the more wonderstruck you would of God' Mercy.

When some things go wrong, we go to doctors and they find a remedy for us.

How much money we spend and We thank Doctors and all others who helped us, but do we ever thank God for His Free Gift to us?

Please reflect?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#15736 May 13, 2013
You have already spammed this, you are not answering questions you are merely spamming like a robot from your scribd page again.

Our bodies are the way they are because of evolution.
MUQ wrote:
Ans.

The question is very simple, but answer requires books upon books, in science.
Please reflect?
Thinking

Taunton, UK

#15737 May 14, 2013
Our joints don't grow back. Sounds like your god is a sh*t designer.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
The question is very simple, but answer requires books upon books, in Quran Allah says "If you (try to) count Allah's bounties, you will not be able do so".
So I will just give you one more example:
5. Our Arms and our Legs:
Have you ever pondered what wonderful things our hands and our feet are?
We take them for granted and never realize their beauty and the finer points in their design.
How delicate are the joints and how "well lubricated" can any human machine compare with them?
How many millions of operations they perform, before getting "worn out"
And our finger prints are a "sure proof of our individuality" even the nails are a sort of "natural health bulletin" of our interior organs.
The more you reflect on your hands and feet, the more wonderstruck you would of God' Mercy.
When some things go wrong, we go to doctors and they find a remedy for us.
How much money we spend and We thank Doctors and all others who helped us, but do we ever thank God for His Free Gift to us?
Please reflect?
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#15738 May 14, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
You have already spammed this, you are not answering questions you are merely spamming like a robot from your scribd page again.<quoted text>
I spotted this too. Has he been drinking alcohol?!Writing the exact same post the next day, he has got to be on something.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#15739 May 14, 2013
GM wrote:
I'm only going to touch on the second point because you are more knowledgeable about Islam than I.

It was my impression that Mohammed would have liked that it was possible for a woman to travel alone safely without a male guardian. But he was pragmatic in that it was not possible during his time.

I have nothing to back that up other than what I've heard. So I'm asking you if there's any Islamic text behind that.
Ans.

Our prophet did in "every thing" which was "golden mean" between Two extremes.

One extreme was "prohibiting" women from traveling from one city to another city.

Another extreme was to give them "total freedom" to do what they wish and decide.

He chose the "medium path" to allow her to travel in the company of a Male guardian.

That "Golden mean" approach you will find in almost every rule of Islamic Jurisprudence.

Allah Knows Best!!
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#15740 May 14, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Our joints don't grow back. Sounds like your god is a sh*t designer.
<quoted text>
Did you ask the "same" question from all the doctors and engineers and every one who makes your gadgets and machines and contraption. How much life they have and what happens when they reach the end of their life?

You comment itself shows that you know very little about the subject.

If you would have kept quite, you would have saved yourself some grace.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#15741 May 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
He chose the "medium path" to allow her to travel in the company of a Male guardian.
That was fine in the 7th century. We now live in the 21st century, yet you continue to think like a 7th century Bedouin. Isnt it time to move on and hold more reasonable views which match today's standards of ethics.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#15742 May 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you ask the "same" question from all the doctors and engineers and every one who makes your gadgets and machines and contraption. How much life they have and what happens when they reach the end of their life?
You comment itself shows that you know very little about the subject.
If you would have kept quite, you would have saved yourself some grace.
So your god is no more capable than our doctors.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#15743 May 14, 2013
We all know if you were living in Hickville US in a Christian family, you would be preaching your love of Jesus. Whereas cause you live in Jiddah in Saudi you follow the teaching of Muhammed. Which all shows that upbringing is the reason we have religious beliefs in the first place, in almost all cases.

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Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#15744 May 14, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes you did-- you claimed that as soon as a girl-child begins to bleed, she is suitable for rape-marriage, under your ugly religious laws of oppression.
In the REAL world? The majority of cultures insist on at least age 16 or older.
However: your Moohumud (misspelling a deliberate insult) married at age SIX.
And began raping her at age NINE-- it is doubtful she was "a woman" by then... even by your ugly standards.
So your Moohumud was a PEDOPHILE.
What else is new?
Do you think that there is a real difference between what those pedophile thugs would do to a child during the act of thighing on a Monday, and what they would do to the same child, on Tuesday, while consummating a marriage?

MUQ, Why does the thighing at age six or even younger, not qualify as rape too?
Thinking

UK

#15745 May 14, 2013
Our engineers make aeroplanes which are orders of magnitude better than they were 110 years ago.

Our joints have not become orders of magnitude better in the same timescale.

Still sounds like your god is a sh*t designer.

PS muslims can tell me to keep "quite" [sic] until their circumcision scars drop off for all I care.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you ask the "same" question from all the doctors and engineers and every one who makes your gadgets and machines and contraption. How much life they have and what happens when they reach the end of their life?
You comment itself shows that you know very little about the subject.
If you would have kept quite, you would have saved yourself some grace.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#15746 May 14, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Our engineers make aeroplanes which are orders of magnitude better than they were 110 years ago.
Our joints have not become orders of magnitude better in the same timescale.
Still sounds like your god is a sh*t designer.<quoted text>
Good point. Our bodies show evidence of lack of a designer - bad backs, need to glasses, teeth and sinus problems, genetic disorders and diseases. All pointing towards indifferent nature and natural evolution, rather than the action of a benevolent designer.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#15747 May 14, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
I predict we are about 12 years out from an openly atheist POTUS or VP.
<quoted text>
greymouser wrote:
<quoted text>
openly?
I'm a bit more cynical than you. My guess is we're at least 25 years away from that. Once the baby boomers are no longer a considerable voting bloc would that seem to gain traction.
But that might be countered with the growing Hispanic Catholics.
It's a bit hard to make a prediction how all it will all fall out in any Presidential election. Which makes it interesting times, indeed.
I'm sure you know better than I. Which state might genuinely and generally accept the non-religious most readily?

I thought it interesting that atheism seems so prominent in Texas, e.g. The Atheist Experience. This group claims over 2,000 members but it's only a Meetup group...
http://www.meetup.com/Houston-Atheists/
Viewed from here, Texas isn't the first US state I'd associate with the decline in religiosity.

Comparing Texas (population 25m) to Scotland (5m) is difficult as there are so many groups - rationalists, skeptics, humanists, atheists, etc. Non-believers frequently choose only one such designation. Others, like me, are happy with any or all of them. I think my way is not only better but more realistic, though I try to avoid calling myself atheist, agnostic or secular as I see them as religious terms. However, there are now over 8,000 members of the Humanist Society Scotland alone. That's apart from the other groups like Brights, Skeptics, etc.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#15748 May 14, 2013
UK Humanist news item...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/0/22271809
There are plans to introduce a bill to make humanist weddings legally recognised in England & Wales, maybe in this Parliament.

There's other Humanist groups in Scotland apart from the HSS...
http://www.volunteerscotland.org.uk/Organisat...

& university groups too...
http://www.meetup.com/edinburghhumanists/

The Freethinker, Rationalist Association and other groups tend to be UK wide. Almost none are so specifically Scottish or English as the HSS or Humani, NI.
Libertarian

London, UK

#15749 May 14, 2013
MUQ

If you know evolutionary biology you would see that many humans have knee, hip and pelvis problems because we didn't evolve standing upright.
Nature cannot go back to the drawing board, it has to use what it already has.

Thats just on that one tiny point. I could type for 2 whole days on the problems caused by (if you believe our bodies were designed by a deity) such a rubbish physical design.
I could design a better body than your god did.

Eg Blind spot in the eyes. why would your god make a blind spot, why would he put the eye in upside down? Lactose intolerance, why has you god decided not to give the gene to digest lactose as an adult to some people.

If you think our bodies are perfect then you're wrong. Do you trust doctors? Careful because they will base their knowledge on actual scientific knowledge.

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