Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24064 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Since: Mar 12

Pune, India

#15127 Apr 27, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
Another thing which I notice is that you come back to square one, when we have already covered that.
It was discussed and I told you that God has no beginning, and gave you arguments about them, but again you make the same statements.
Then you say Physical laws had no beginning, how can this be true, when this Universe had a Beginning?
These laws were Created when the Universe was created. And this Universe cannot be created and function, unless a Super Intelligent Creator, Knows everything and has Power to do what He wants and Wills and there is No One to stop Him from doing what He wishes.
This is the Creator for you.
And you ridicule that "water cycle" designed by Creator is "faulty", you "design and implement" a scheme to provide water to every living creature on this earth.
Why whole earth, just do it for your city and ensure every living thing gets drinking water to survive.
It is very easy to criticise the design of others, especially for those, who have "Not Created" any thing.
If the laws were not created, then how come they came into existence? Why the force of Gravity should decrease by the Square root of the distance between the two objects, why not cube, why not raise to the power four?
The same is true about every law, they were fixed and they are followed everywhere in the Universe.
I dragged the discussion back to square one because you haven't given any plausible arguments.Rather you have tried to evade my posts either by not answering or giving some insipid explanations that don't make any sense.
When you say God had no beginning you have to explain it why you believe so.Show me where you had given explanation why God hadn't had beginning except for the ridicule logic that"God is not a thing."Whatever you assume him to be,you have to explain how that "not a thing" had had no beginning and came out of nothing.If you do not know that means you are blindly believing in God.
If it was that simple as you said,seriously there would be no atheist in the world and everyone would unanimously agree the God's existence.If God came out of nothing,why can't be the same for physical laws?.But the problem is we atheists/agnostics ask for explanations and you theists come up with which you theist evade of.We don't believe in God because we ask for evidences and we couldn't get it so far.
As far as physical laws are concerned,science has no answer yet as to how they came into existence and there is some popular theories and notions from different scientists but none has been accepted by majority .
Stephen Hawking believes that universe and physical laws might have been come out of nothing.At least,Stephen Hawking(an atheist) took a scientific approach to explain the existence of physical laws.But do you theists have any scientific explanation for the same as well as your God?The answer is no.We can't be a lemming of a "non-answering" religions.
If gravity decreases by square root of distance between objects,does it mean it proves God?I already told you that physical laws rigidity doesn't prove the existence of God.If that is true(I believe so),then religions are false(including yours) because you have a contradictory belief that your prophets performed miracles defying physical laws.You can either believe in rigidity of physical laws or their acclivity towards change but not both simultaneously.
I criticized your God's plan because of your belief that contradicts facts.
You say that God is omnipotent.On the other hand,he couldn't even make a "perfect earth" for human beings and other living things.Everything we do for our comfort ends up against nature either in the form of global warming or other menace.So if you call this universe a "perfection" then he is not merciful enough to us since he hadn't even created a "perfect earth" where human beings can live with comforts without going against nature.Everything we do for do proves to be detrimental in some or the other way

Since: Mar 12

Pune, India

#15128 Apr 27, 2013
Correction:
Everything we do for our comforts proves to be detrimental in some or the other way.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#15129 Apr 27, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
He's a devout Christian who proselytizes non stop on here humiliating himself.
I have ignored him for a while as he never has anything to say.
<quoted text>
Absolutely!

I stopped responding to him for the very same reason.

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#15130 Apr 28, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
"All" religions are not "equally" separated from the state.
This is a general claim which is made, but the roots of religion are so deeply inside the psyche of humans, that no one can totally erase it.
Communists did their best to erase it in USSR for more than 70 years, but once the "pressure" was removed, the people went back to their religions.
So there is not "total separation" from state and religion in any society. Irrespective of what they claim.
And not 'all" religions are treated as same. There is Islam which is marked for criticism and negative propaganda in most western countries.
And the media in most of these countries is in the grip of a very small minority group.
Yet you refuse to comment on:-

I guess you must have stoned a girl to death.

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#15131 Apr 28, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
Another thing which I notice is that you come back to square one, when we have already covered that.
It was discussed and I told you that God has no beginning, and gave you arguments about them, but again you make the same statements.
Then you say Physical laws had no beginning, how can this be true, when this Universe had a Beginning?
These laws were Created when the Universe was created. And this Universe cannot be created and function, unless a Super Intelligent Creator, Knows everything and has Power to do what He wants and Wills and there is No One to stop Him from doing what He wishes.
This is the Creator for you.
And you ridicule that "water cycle" designed by Creator is "faulty", you "design and implement" a scheme to provide water to every living creature on this earth.
Why whole earth, just do it for your city and ensure every living thing gets drinking water to survive.
It is very easy to criticise the design of others, especially for those, who have "Not Created" any thing.
If the laws were not created, then how come they came into existence? Why the force of Gravity should decrease by the Square root of the distance between the two objects, why not cube, why not raise to the power four?
The same is true about every law, they were fixed and they are followed everywhere in the Universe.
The matter "did not decide" to follow these laws, they were "mode to follow" them.!!
Why only Physical laws, I have given reasoning that EVERYTHING is Created by God, because things do not create themselves and they cannot be created by "mere chance"!!
You refuse to comment on:-

I guess you must have stoned a girl to death.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#15132 Apr 28, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry....
:-(
If you think this is similar
you may wish to open
a book on history.
Full of sh*t, defeated theist troll with no proof of god.
Henry

Altengottern, Germany

#15133 Apr 28, 2013
Wat the Tyler wrote:
Religion will cease to exist sometime in the 21st century.
When will capitalism cease?
Henry

Altengottern, Germany

#15134 Apr 28, 2013
michael godwills wrote:
<quoted text>
humanity can not survive with capitalism, and since successful communism is a merely but a dream mankind needs some form of social liberty
Socialism and communism are a stringent necessity in order to survive humanity!
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#15135 Apr 28, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
He's a devout Christian who proselytizes non stop on here humiliating himself.
I have ignored him for a while as he never has anything to say.
<quoted text>
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Absolutely!
I stopped responding to [Lincoln] for the very same reason.
I’ll talk to anyone :-)

Lincoln seems to me a typical ‘person of faith’, uninterested in following the evidence, only in the evidence that supports his personal intuition. I don’t expect him to alter his opinion based on reason and evidence and doubt he could. My purpose is to show that atheists are rational and thoughtful.

Christian fundamentalists spend a fortune pushing their theology and the unsupportable belief in an interventionist god or creator; or a ‘He’ who can be understood or prayed to. Lincoln’s piece may come from sites such as those that ‘prove’ the Moon landing was faked. his most recent offering is mentioned on sites like this...
http://thedamienzone.com/2012/08/17/atheism-a...
(Lincoln offers no link and I can find nothing googling things like,“Dr. Hans Zimmermann MD PhD bio”)

It appears Lincoln attends Atheist threads simply to try to annoy atheists. It seems more to do with him than with us.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#15136 Apr 28, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
....And not 'all" religions are treated as same. There is Islam which is marked for criticism and negative propaganda in most western countries.
Islam often suffers more severe criticism precisely because all religions are treated the equally.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-15226421
(Treating groups or people equally and treating them the same aren't exactly the same things).
Criticism of Islam in the West is usually justified and substantiated.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
And the media in most of these countries is in the grip of a very small minority group.
But we have a free press in the West. Anyone can start a newspaper.(Note: It is argued by some that such a high degree of freedom is due to Maggie Thatcher breaking the power of the Print unions in the 1970s)
http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/Maggie-took...
Henry

Altengottern, Germany

#15137 Apr 28, 2013
greymouser wrote:
<quoted text>
Where did god create all this stuff from?
and who created god?
mysterious ways?
Sorry, but this is of course a heavenly secret. Not even CIA or FBI are informed!

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#15138 Apr 28, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>I’ll talk to anyone :-)
Lincoln seems to me a typical ‘person of faith’, uninterested in following the evidence, only in the evidence that supports his personal intuition. I don’t expect him to alter his opinion based on reason and evidence and doubt he could. My purpose is to show that atheists are rational and thoughtful.
Christian fundamentalists spend a fortune pushing their theology and the unsupportable belief in an interventionist god or creator; or a ‘He’ who can be understood or prayed to. Lincoln’s piece may come from sites such as those that ‘prove’ the Moon landing was faked. his most recent offering is mentioned on sites like this...
http://thedamienzone.com/2012/08/17/atheism-a...
(Lincoln offers no link and I can find nothing googling things like,“Dr. Hans Zimmermann MD PhD bio”)
It appears Lincoln attends Atheist threads simply to try to annoy atheists. It seems more to do with him than with us.
Yep, more made up godbot BS.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#15139 Apr 28, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>I’ll talk to anyone :-)
Lincoln seems to me a typical ‘person of faith’, uninterested in following the evidence, only in the evidence that supports his personal intuition. I don’t expect him to alter his opinion based on reason and evidence and doubt he could. My purpose is to show that atheists are rational and thoughtful.
Christian fundamentalists spend a fortune pushing their theology and the unsupportable belief in an interventionist god or creator; or a ‘He’ who can be understood or prayed to. Lincoln’s piece may come from sites such as those that ‘prove’ the Moon landing was faked. his most recent offering is mentioned on sites like this...
http://thedamienzone.com/2012/08/17/atheism-a...
(Lincoln offers no link and I can find nothing googling things like,“Dr. Hans Zimmermann MD PhD bio”)
It appears Lincoln attends Atheist threads simply to try to annoy atheists. It seems more to do with him than with us.
It's clear that his raison d'etre is to annoy non-believers;
no doubt due to some innate sense of inadequacy on his part.

Yet given the volume of posts he makes to us compared with our low response level - I'd say that he's the one who's annoyed.
Henry

Mühlhausen, Germany

#15140 Apr 28, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>At least the USA didn't deteriorate to the extent East Germany did before capitalism, W German fellowship, money and goodwill allowed it to recover.
The world certainly needs a united and strong Germany. Perhaps we can at least agree on that, but we're wildly off-topic again Henry.(Try and concentrate pal :-)
The world had enough of imperialist Germany. A socialist Germany would have been the one for a peaceful world!
Imhotep

Wimauma, FL

#15141 Apr 28, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
It's clear that his raison d'etre is to annoy non-believers;
no doubt due to some innate sense of inadequacy on his part.
Yet given the volume of posts he makes to us compared with our low response level - I'd say that he's the one who's annoyed.
Je pense que Lincoln est compagnon peur

Well I'm off to church... talk with you after the complementary Continental breakfast consisting of wine and Unleavened bread.
Allah willing...

Since: Apr 13

San Juan, Philippines

#15142 Apr 28, 2013
@to the auther:

I hope so..

Religion is primarily passed through SOCIETY..

I disagree too with religion because i question what happens if you were born in a non religious area.. Will you 'burn in hell'?

If there were an all loving God, why would he let someone burn in hell...

There are just many loopholes in religion

My question to the author of this thread is just.. what's your reference in saying atheism would likely defeat religion in 2038?

Thanks.. "GBU" :=)

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#15143 Apr 28, 2013
I agree. It seems he is desperate for our attention and he certainly has a seething hatred for atheists.

I would say he had someone in his life turn to apostasy on his church and looking at how the non believer movement is taking off he needs to last out against people of reason.

Myself and others have tried again and again to have an actual conversation with him but all he is interested in is taking inane little potshots and running like hell. Rather childish actually yes?

I wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to be some fat 14 year old boy with a pizza face.

He never posts links, I would imagine he takes a line from an article and then puts in his own commentary.

It's pointless to even glance at his posts so I just auto scroll by them like an EW post.
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Khatru wrote, "<quoted text>
Absolutely!
I stopped responding to [Lincoln] for the very same reason."

I’ll talk to anyone :-)

Lincoln seems to me a typical ‘person of faith’, uninterested in following the evidence, only in the evidence that supports his personal intuition. I don’t expect him to alter his opinion based on reason and evidence and doubt he could. My purpose is to show that atheists are rational and thoughtful.

Christian fundamentalists spend a fortune pushing their theology and the unsupportable belief in an interventionist god or creator; or a ‘He’ who can be understood or prayed to. Lincoln’s piece may come from sites such as those that ‘prove’ the Moon landing was faked. his most recent offering is mentioned on sites like this...
http://thedamienzone.com/2012/08/17/atheism-a...
(Lincoln offers no link and I can find nothing googling things like,“Dr. Hans Zimmermann MD PhD bio”)

It appears Lincoln attends Atheist threads simply to try to annoy atheists. It seems more to do with him than with us.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#15144 Apr 28, 2013
This is true you can sit back and watch him go into overdrive if nobody responds to him!

Like a woman scorned!

Lol!
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>It's clear that his raison d'etre is to annoy non-believers;
no doubt due to some innate sense of inadequacy on his part.

Yet given the volume of posts he makes to us compared with our low response level - I'd say that he's the one who's annoyed.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#15145 Apr 28, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Je pense que Lincoln est compagnon peur
Well I'm off to church... talk with you after the complementary Continental breakfast consisting of wine and Unleavened bread.
Allah willing...
Lol

My parents were never believers.

Yet, when I was a kid in Hong Kong, my father would regularly take me and my brother to Sunday school at Repulse Bay.

Years later, I asked him why he did this - what with him being a non-believer.

His reasons were entirely selfish: He's drop us off at Sunday school and then head over to the old Repulse Bay Hotel (sadly gone now) and enjoy a couple of quiet hours having breakfast, coffee and reading the Sunday papers.
Imhotep

Wimauma, FL

#15146 Apr 28, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol
My parents were never believers.
Yet, when I was a kid in Hong Kong, my father would regularly take me and my brother to Sunday school at Repulse Bay.
Years later, I asked him why he did this - what with him being a non-believer.
His reasons were entirely selfish: He's drop us off at Sunday school and then head over to the old Repulse Bay Hotel (sadly gone now) and enjoy a couple of quiet hours having breakfast, coffee and reading the Sunday papers.
You have extensive experience in China I am so jealous never been there

QQ - opinion?

Is China worried of a possible North Korea implosion, a catastrophic influx of starving refugees across the Yalu river?

Do they worry Kim's blustering could increase American activity in the region and perhaps encourage Japan to modify it's pacifist Constitution?

Xi seems to be Avoiding North Korea like the plague.

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