Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24182 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Psychology Today.

EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#15106 Apr 27, 2013
Henry wrote:
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The USA is much retarded as far as generally science is concerned. Especially the socalled bible belt is always religiously a backward region!
At least the USA didn't deteriorate to the extent East Germany did before capitalism, W German fellowship, money and goodwill allowed it to recover.

The world certainly needs a united and strong Germany. Perhaps we can at least agree on that, but we're wildly off-topic again Henry.(Try and concentrate pal :-)
Henry

Schneeberg, Germany

#15107 Apr 27, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
How did earth get created without a God, dust CANNOT!!!! create itself, rocks cannot create itself and chemicals cannot create itself to create earth. That's perfect evidence, and I'll like to see you disprove it.
Science has done very much to clear the reality of our being and it will do so in the future. But only when nature has no cosmic calamity in it for the human being!
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#15109 Apr 27, 2013
DavidQuinn wrote:
I wish this were true, Religion is divisive and restricts us as a species, simple as that. Check out a book that's causing a bit of a buzz in the Uk called 2082 the chronicles of hope. On the website the 1st chapter for the 1st book is on there for free, there's a speech in there by an atheist politician that's genius!
Interesting. Thanks for that
http://thechroniclesofhope.com/blog/
Lincoln

United States

#15110 Apr 27, 2013
New information from a 12-year old study at a German University has many psychiatrists and psychologists throughout the world wondering if atheism is a sign or warning of a more serious mental illness already present or in the process of developing.  Doctors are searching for a gene that might cause a correlation between serious mental illness and what they are calling “overt atheism.”

For the time being psychiatrists and research psychologists in Germany and Switzerland are calling this medical anomaly,“The Misfit Syndrome.”
Doctors at the University in Hamburg have been investigating the connection between religious beliefs and overall mental health and the results of the study have unnerved even the most stoic scientists, physicians and researchers.

Originally the study was an obscure student investigation about the power of prayer over illness — a study which eventually showed that prayer had virtually no effect on the eventual outcome of a disease process — but something happened along the way in that study that pushed the study into another direction and into the hands of research physicians, clinicians, psychotherapists and various professionals in the field of social science.

“Overt atheism, in other words, atheism that is professed as a way of life by some individuals — a manifesto of sorts –  was found to be a common component inherent to many people suffering from other forms of severe mental illness,” said Dr. Hans Zimmer MD PhD
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#15111 Apr 27, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
New information from a 12-year old study at a German University has many psychiatrists and psychologists throughout the world wondering if atheism is a sign or warning of a more serious mental illness already present or in the process of developing.  Doctors are searching for a gene that might cause a correlation between serious mental illness and what they are calling “overt atheism.”
For the time being psychiatrists and research psychologists in Germany and Switzerland are calling this medical anomaly,“The Misfit Syndrome.”
Doctors at the University in Hamburg have been investigating the connection between religious beliefs and overall mental health and the results of the study have unnerved even the most stoic scientists, physicians and researchers.
Sure it did.:-)
Lincoln wrote:
Originally the study was an obscure student investigation about the power of prayer over illness — a study which eventually showed that prayer had virtually no effect on the eventual outcome of a disease process — but something happened along the way in that study that pushed the study into another direction and into the hands of research physicians, clinicians, psychotherapists and various professionals in the field of social science.
“Overt atheism, in other words, atheism that is professed as a way of life by some individuals — a manifesto of sorts –  was found to be a common component inherent to many people suffering from other forms of severe mental illness,” said Dr. Hans Zimmer MD PhD
Yes Lincoln. There is scientific evidence that publically stated non-belief in a sky-fairy is a mental illness.

As your posts illustrate - if either non-belief or religious faith is indicative of a mental illness, religious faith is what's irrational.

This "new information" you've found on the web isn't convincing.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#15112 Apr 27, 2013
A bit off-topic (& be wary of statistics), but some might find this quite interesting...
http://www.people-press.org/2013/04/22/public...
michael godwills

Thornhill, Canada

#15113 Apr 27, 2013
Clint wrote:
<quoted text>Capitalism is the only hope humanity has to survive and flourish.
humanity can not survive with capitalism, and since successful communism is a merely but a dream mankind needs some form of social liberty
Henry

Schneeberg, Germany

#15114 Apr 27, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>At least the USA didn't deteriorate to the extent East Germany did before capitalism, W German fellowship, money and goodwill allowed it to recover.
The world certainly needs a united and strong Germany. Perhaps we can at least agree on that, but we're wildly off-topic again Henry.(Try and concentrate pal :-)
Germany is divided between East and West. Similarly between Israeli and Palestinians.
Henry

Schneeberg, Germany

#15115 Apr 27, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't believe they were atheists most of them were Deists and Mason's. Thomas Paine could be the exception, But he was not a founding father.
“Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is no more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more repugnant to reason, and more contradictory to itself than this thing called Christianity”
“That God cannot lie, is no advantage to your argument, because it is no proof that priests can not, or that the Bible does not”
“There are matters in the Bible, said to be done by the express commandment of God, that are shocking to humanity and to every idea we have of moral justice”
“The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum.”
“Is it not a species of blasphemy to call the New Testament revealed religion, when we see in it such contradictions and absurdities”
Thomas Paine
Peace on earth?
Not as long as organized religion exists.
Capitalism and war are twins!
Imhotep

Wimauma, FL

#15116 Apr 27, 2013
Henry wrote:
<quoted text>
Capitalism and war are twins!
Well Henry we're good it war.

We have fought a war roughly every 25 years since the inception of the country which was already @ war with the English king.

Take a look at this superb take rendered by George Carlin - rip

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch...
Lincoln

United States

#15117 Apr 27, 2013
continued .....
“Overt atheism, in other words, atheism that is professed as a way of life by some individuals — a manifesto of sorts –  was found to be a common component inherent to many people suffering from other forms of severe mental illness,” said Dr. Hans Zimmer MD PhD

“We started to notice that many of our experimental volunteers — those who were defiantly atheistic in their beliefs — were also suffering from various forms of dissociate disorders and social adaptation manias. This came as quite a shock to us as we studied patient after patient because for years we have been led to believe that religious zeal was often a patently obvious sign of mental illness, but in fact this is not the case.  Quite the contrary.

“The individuals we have  studied, especially those under the age of forty who actively participate in open debate about their own avowed atheism, or people who are very strident about their atheism are heavily prone to mental illness — and most of the illnesses are quite severe.  This was not a handful of subjects who were studied, mind you.  There were 17,809 people in the study.  It was a very large model as far as psychological experiments go.”
shani89

UK

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Lincoln

United States

#15119 Apr 27, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Sure it did.:-)
<quoted text>Yes Lincoln. There is scientific evidence that publically stated non-belief in a sky-fairy is a mental illness.
As your posts illustrate - if either non-belief or religious faith is indicative of a mental illness, religious faith is what's irrational.
This "new information" you've found on the web isn't convincing.
thank you for responding to this post.
Your post is important to us
and will be answered in the order received
Lincoln

United States

#15120 Apr 27, 2013
Henry wrote:
<quoted text>
Germany is divided between East and West. Similarly between Israeli and Palestinians.
Sorry....
:-(

If you think this is similar
you may wish to open
a book on history.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#15121 Apr 27, 2013
EdSed wrote:
From:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-bri...
Quote:
The Humanist Society of Scotland has reported an increase in the number of ceremonies its celebrants are conducting, up to about 3,000 last year. It predicts they will become more popular than Church of Scotland weddings in as little as two years.
The same would be true elsewhere in the UK, the British Humanist Association (BHA) says, if only the ceremonies were legally recognised. That happened in Scotland in 2005, when there were fewer than 100 ceremonies, but the country is one of few in the world where non-religious weddings are allowed.
Unquote
Come-on England, Wales & NI, catch-up!
Caroline Lynch of Secular Scotland will discuss this on Radio Scotland tomorrow.(She is on the programme about 8:15 to 8:30am, I think).
Brilliant!

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#15122 Apr 27, 2013
He's a devout Christian who proselytizes non stop on here humiliating himself.

I have ignored him for a while as he never has anything to say.
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Sure it did.:-)

Lincoln wrote, "
Originally the study was an obscure student investigation about the power of prayer over illness — a study which eventually showed that prayer had virtually no effect on the eventual outcome of a disease process — but something happened along the way in that study that pushed the study into another direction and into the hands of research physicians, clinicians, psychotherapists and various professionals in the field of social science.
“Overt atheism, in other words, atheism that is professed as a way of life by some individuals — a manifesto of sorts – was found to be a common component inherent to many people suffering from other forms of severe mental illness,” said Dr. Hans Zimmer MD PhD
"

Yes Lincoln. There is scientific evidence that publically stated non-belief in a sky-fairy is a mental illness.

As your posts illustrate - if either non-belief or religious faith is indicative of a mental illness, religious faith is what's irrational.

This "new information" you've found on the web isn't convincing.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#15123 Apr 27, 2013
EJ wrote:
That is the problem. Here in this country, all religions are supposed to be equally separated from the state.
Ans.

"All" religions are not "equally" separated from the state.

This is a general claim which is made, but the roots of religion are so deeply inside the psyche of humans, that no one can totally erase it.

Communists did their best to erase it in USSR for more than 70 years, but once the "pressure" was removed, the people went back to their religions.

So there is not "total separation" from state and religion in any society. Irrespective of what they claim.

And not 'all" religions are treated as same. There is Islam which is marked for criticism and negative propaganda in most western countries.

And the media in most of these countries is in the grip of a very small minority group.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#15124 Apr 27, 2013
FS wrote:
Well, there is nothing contradictory in my statements.
"Physical laws do not change".
"There is no creator of them"

Physical laws are not subjected to any caprice. Why do you think these laws will change if there were no creator? Do these laws have minds and are subjected to some whims that they will change on their own?

You are basically assuming that this universe is a paradigm of perfection and its existence proves " super clever God's existence". You should explain why do you feel so.

Well, if there had been ultra intelligent creator he would have planned better.
We cannot breath in water when most of the earth's surface is covered by water.
We do not have natural resources growing at required rate meeting the growing needs of growing population.
Seriously think if your God is a good planner and very "merciful" to human race.

Coming back to the physical laws.
Their very stability shows that they are not controlled by any supernatural entity and are not facing any interference or intervention. If these laws were keep on changing it would loosely prove that they are being interfered by some unknown entity/forces.

Secondly, why do you think physical laws must have been created?


PS:I give my explanation to my viewpoints even though they are purely based on my own reasoning. You, on other hand, have not even made an attempt to explain that why do you feel physical laws are created by God.
Ans.

Another thing which I notice is that you come back to square one, when we have already covered that.

It was discussed and I told you that God has no beginning, and gave you arguments about them, but again you make the same statements.

Then you say Physical laws had no beginning, how can this be true, when this Universe had a Beginning?

These laws were Created when the Universe was created. And this Universe cannot be created and function, unless a Super Intelligent Creator, Knows everything and has Power to do what He wants and Wills and there is No One to stop Him from doing what He wishes.

This is the Creator for you.

And you ridicule that "water cycle" designed by Creator is "faulty", you "design and implement" a scheme to provide water to every living creature on this earth.

Why whole earth, just do it for your city and ensure every living thing gets drinking water to survive.

It is very easy to criticise the design of others, especially for those, who have "Not Created" any thing.

If the laws were not created, then how come they came into existence? Why the force of Gravity should decrease by the Square root of the distance between the two objects, why not cube, why not raise to the power four?

The same is true about every law, they were fixed and they are followed everywhere in the Universe.

The matter "did not decide" to follow these laws, they were "mode to follow" them.!!

Why only Physical laws, I have given reasoning that EVERYTHING is Created by God, because things do not create themselves and they cannot be created by "mere chance"!!

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#15125 Apr 27, 2013
This was in no way shape or form asked of you or discussed here. Why must you mindlessly spam blast the board?

Are you unable to have civil discussion Muq?
MUQ wrote:
Ans.

"All" religions are not "equally" separated from the state.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#15126 Apr 27, 2013
No atheist not scientist has ever claimed life happened or evolved by mere chance spam Muq.

Instead they give solid observable reasons why and how the natural processes work.

But that is difficult to debate when you are a sub human behaving poorly educated beast like many Muslims are yes Muq?

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