Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24178 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Since: Mar 12

Mumbai, India

#14487 Apr 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I answered one question and now you come up with one dozen.
And you said that my reply now is different than what I gave earlier, so I did reply your earlier post, so you lied when you said, I did not answer my post.
I am not a spokes person for God, so these questions you should ask God and not me.
I do not see in your questions any of the "learning attitude"?
You are only engaging in idle and purposeless discussions, which I do not like to continue.
I did not lie.You didn't answer my questions for a while.However,to one of my former posts,you replied that Allah made us to serve him.And you cited a verse from Quran to support that statement.And now you are saying God don't need us.Why would a needless creator create us?
Then in your last post,you have said that God doesn't need our services.It's you,who have been answering with contradictory statements.
Aren't these contradictory?
Why is your statements are so contradictory?You got to explain things that you preach here.
Why do you want people to accept your religious theories without any skepticism?
Explain me these differences.I want to check the authenticity of your religion.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#14488 Apr 12, 2013
fadu singh wrote:
<quoted text>
I did not lie.You didn't answer my questions for a while.However,to one of my former posts,you replied that Allah made us to serve him.And you cited a verse from Quran to support that statement.And now you are saying God don't need us.Why would a needless creator create us?
Then in your last post,you have said that God doesn't need our services.It's you,who have been answering with contradictory statements.
Aren't these contradictory?
Why is your statements are so contradictory?You got to explain things that you preach here.
Why do you want people to accept your religious theories without any skepticism?
Explain me these differences.I want to check the authenticity of your religion.
If you have desire to learn about my religion, you have to ask me politely.

Then there should be evidence in your post, that you really try to understand my posts and your questions are sincere.

Your attitude so far, does not show me that you are on these threads to learn about Islam.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#14489 Apr 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Your attitude so far, does not show me that you are on these threads to learn about Islam.
Why would someone come to these threads to learn about Islam?

No doubt you think you are some sort of teacher.

What a colossal display of pretentious conceit!!!

Since: Mar 12

Mumbai, India

#14490 Apr 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I Pity the "lopsided" intelligence of these Atheiests because on one level they go to extremes, atomic and sub atomic level to find out how things are working in this universe...
And on another level they just close their mind and do not think, how could this universe come about and working so perfectly, without any Plan, design, purpose or Creator at its back?
It seems that they knowingly try to not ponder this question and try to "laugh at" people who say that there is A Powerful Creator at the back of this universe.
Athiests are like some one who goes to a palace, and sees every thing, but try to avoid to look at the King Sitting on the throne and then come back and say "I did not see the King, He does not exist".
This is the stupidity of Athiests which I criticize.
PS:
Rejecting models of God is different from denying His very existence.
If they used their brains, they would find out that out of so many models, there is only One Model, which satisfies what our advancement in knowledge has shown us.
There are fine reasons why existence of God is being rejected by atheists(that's why they are atheists).
And the reasons are pretty much obvious.The way you religious people describe God baffles us rationalists.You people attribute those values to God which are impossible.
For example,omnipotence.
The idea of God came out of the very basic common intuition that 'everything has a beginning'.
That might sound correct only if you have that kind of 'linear' perception.And of course you have that'linear' perception.But,even in that you have flaws.If God created us,then who created God?
Now don't say that God has been not created.If that is possible,then why can't our idea that some physical forces which caused Big bang have always been there be possible?
When most of the atheists say 'God' they actually mean God that has been described by religions.
I do not deny existence of God.Because if I want to,I have to prove it.But I can be sure that your kind of God(or God of any religion) does not exist.

Since: Mar 12

Mumbai, India

#14491 Apr 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
If you have desire to learn about my religion, you have to ask me politely.
Then there should be evidence in your post, that you really try to understand my posts and your questions are sincere.
Your attitude so far, does not show me that you are on these threads to learn about Islam.
How can I show evidences in my posts that I have understood your statements when you words are so contradictory?You have to prove what you are saying is right.
MUQ,do you want to people accept your faith blindly without any questions?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#14492 Apr 12, 2013
Have you married a little girl Muq? Did you take a Muslim child bride for yourself and that's why you refuse to answer questions regarding it?

It seems even you are deeply ashamed of the teachings of Islam.

And you want people to be ultra polite with you? I read on your scribd page where a very polite gentleman is asking you questions very politely and you are insulting in return.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>If you have desire to learn about my religion, you have to ask me politely.

Then there should be evidence in your post, that you really try to understand my posts and your questions are sincere.

Your attitude so far, does not show me that you are on these threads to learn about Islam.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#14493 Apr 13, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would someone come to these threads to learn about Islam?
No doubt you think you are some sort of teacher.
What a colossal display of pretentious conceit!!!
Well if you do not KNOW about Islam, then you should be ready to increase your knowledge,

That should be one reason for you to come to any thread.

And that is when you are told that In the Eyes of God, Islam is the only religion and every one professing any other religion shall be the loser on the day of judgement.

So you should make your stand clear and if you reject Islam, you should provide reasons for it.

We are grown up people and we should behave as grown ups. It seems you are taking a very childish attitude on this issue.

PS:

I do not boast about myself, taking the role of teacher. If some one knows more than me, I shall be most welcome him to take my role and tell people about Islam.

And when I see some one telling correct things about Islam, I do not discourage him and I support him.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#14494 Apr 13, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Have you married a little girl Muq? Did you take a Muslim child bride for yourself and that's why you refuse to answer questions regarding it?
It seems even you are deeply ashamed of the teachings of Islam.
And you want people to be ultra polite with you? I read on your scribd page where a very polite gentleman is asking you questions very politely and you are insulting in return.
<quoted text>
You have specialty in asking useless and not pertinent questions.

We are discussing about Islam and its teachings, what I do and what I did not do have no relevance to the question.

We should not get personal on these threads.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#14495 Apr 13, 2013
fadu singh wrote:
<quoted text>
There are fine reasons why existence of God is being rejected by atheists(that's why they are atheists).
And the reasons are pretty much obvious.The way you religious people describe God baffles us rationalists.You people attribute those values to God which are impossible.
For example,omnipotence.
The idea of God came out of the very basic common intuition that 'everything has a beginning'.
That might sound correct only if you have that kind of 'linear' perception.And of course you have that'linear' perception.But,even in that you have flaws.If God created us,then who created God?
Now don't say that God has been not created.If that is possible,then why can't our idea that some physical forces which caused Big bang have always been there be possible?
When most of the atheists say 'God' they actually mean God that has been described by religions.
I do not deny existence of God.Because if I want to,I have to prove it.But I can be sure that your kind of God(or God of any religion) does not exist.
Different religions have different models of God....so how can you say "all religions have same model of God" and when Athiests reject One Model, they reject all Models.

The basic mistake of these atheists is to muddle up the debate and either accept every claim or reject all claims.

The first step should be to ponder on the existence of Creator. When one sees this endless Universe and the way every thing in it is working under precise rules....first thing that should come to his mind to feel Wonder and Amazement at the Power, knowledge and wisdom of One who created all that!!

So the presence of Creator should be the first step and not His rejection.

It does not matter how deep any one goes, from level of Galaxies to Atomic particles or even to sub atomic level, one shall find that there is nothing left to chance or randomness in working of this Universe, these are proof of Single Creator as well as His Power over every thing in this Universe.

So if you have a true and use your faculties, study of this Universe, shall lead you to its Creator.

And once you reach that level, you should analyze the concept of God that major religions of the world have ... and then it is not difficult to find out, which one of them in most in line with what we find from our study of this Universe.

Our so called atheists, do not go to the full length and stop their research in the middle and reject God, which is very unreasonable and illogical.

How could they explain the existence and creation of this Universe without any Creator at the back of it?

Since: Mar 12

Mumbai, India

#14496 Apr 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Different religions have different models of God....so how can you say "all religions have same model of God" and when Athiests reject One Model, they reject all Models.
The basic mistake of these atheists is to muddle up the debate and either accept every claim or reject all claims.
The first step should be to ponder on the existence of Creator. When one sees this endless Universe and the way every thing in it is working under precise rules....first thing that should come to his mind to feel Wonder and Amazement at the Power, knowledge and wisdom of One who created all that!!
So the presence of Creator should be the first step and not His rejection.
It does not matter how deep any one goes, from level of Galaxies to Atomic particles or even to sub atomic level, one shall find that there is nothing left to chance or randomness in working of this Universe, these are proof of Single Creator as well as His Power over every thing in this Universe.
So if you have a true and use your faculties, study of this Universe, shall lead you to its Creator.
And once you reach that level, you should analyze the concept of God that major religions of the world have ... and then it is not difficult to find out, which one of them in most in line with what we find from our study of this Universe.
Our so called atheists, do not go to the full length and stop their research in the middle and reject God, which is very unreasonable and illogical.
How could they explain the existence and creation of this Universe without any Creator at the back of it?
Every religion has different models of God but there are undeniable similarities between those models.And when we reject Gods,we reject on the basis of the common traits that you people believe God possesses.
We rationalist do stop at the point where religions show up their stupidity.If I were to ask you who created God what would be your answer?
Definitely you will say that God was never created and he has always been there.
If Universe had the beginning,then why not God?
Why does your logic stop there?
Please answer.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#14497 Apr 13, 2013
For us civilized people my questions are very pertinent. So you really think a little girl at age 5 is old enough to get married and have sex with a 50+ year old man? This is acceptable in Islam correct?
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>You have specialty in asking useless and not pertinent questions.

We are discussing about Islam and its teachings, what I do and what I did not do have no relevance to the question.

We should not get personal on these threads.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#14498 Apr 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I answered one question and now you come up with one dozen.
And you never answer even the one ...

... the most important question though, is why your #1 dude, was just a bronze-age illiterate imbecile.

Totally incapable of writing his own name, let alone a whole book ...

... but the icing on the cake?

Your "hero" is a child rapist ...!

WTF is >>that<< about?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#14499 Apr 13, 2013
Because so many Islamic men like Muq want to rape children so it only makes sense to have their prophet do the same and condone the behavior in the Quran.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>And you never answer even the one ...

... the most important question though, is why your #1 dude, was just a bronze-age illiterate imbecile.

Totally incapable of writing his own name, let alone a whole book ...

... but the icing on the cake?

Your "hero" is a child rapist ...!

WTF is >>that<< about?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#14500 Apr 13, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Because so many Islamic men like Muq want to rape children so it only makes sense to have their prophet do the same and condone the behavior in the Quran.
<quoted text>
Yeah.... there's that.... unfortunately.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#14501 Apr 13, 2013
And if one of these children escape their abusive, rapist husband? They get beaten, nose chopped off and worse.

It's disturbing how savage these Islamic animals are.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah.... there's that.... unfortunately.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#14502 Apr 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Well if you do not KNOW about Islam, then you should be ready to increase your knowledge,
That should be one reason for you to come to any thread.
And that is when you are told that In the Eyes of God, Islam is the only religion and every one professing any other religion shall be the loser on the day of judgement.
So you should make your stand clear and if you reject Islam, you should provide reasons for it.
We are grown up people and we should behave as grown ups. It seems you are taking a very childish attitude on this issue.
PS:
I do not boast about myself, taking the role of teacher. If some one knows more than me, I shall be most welcome him to take my role and tell people about Islam.
And when I see some one telling correct things about Islam, I do not discourage him and I support him.
I see that your definition view of grown up people is limited to only those who agree with what you say.

Do you teach people which hand the supreme creator being of the universe wants them to wipe their arses with?

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#14503 Apr 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
You have specialty in asking useless and not pertinent questions.
We are discussing about Islam and its teachings, what I do and what I did not do have no relevance to the question.
We should not get personal on these threads.
I know that according to Islam, in Muslim heaven women will outnumber men by at least 4:1 and in some cases 72:1

That is if there are any left after Islamic men have honour killed their way through the female species.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#14504 Apr 13, 2013
fadu singh wrote:
<quoted text>
Every religion has different models of God but there are undeniable similarities between those models.And when we reject Gods,we reject on the basis of the common traits that you people believe God possesses.
We rationalist do stop at the point where religions show up their stupidity.If I were to ask you who created God what would be your answer?
Definitely you will say that God was never created and he has always been there.
If Universe had the beginning,then why not God?
Why does your logic stop there?
Please answer.
It is wrong to say that all religions have same models.

Hindus have their gods in physical human shapes, some come with four heads eight arms, and some sitting an an ocean bed, and some one sitting on Himalayas with moon stuck in his head etc....then they believe in human incarnation of their gods.

Jews on the other hand believe in a Racial god, who has special relations with them and them only.

Christians have a Triune God, which has three persons imbedded into it, one of them is a human who lived on this earth.

Buddhists have no clear concept about Creator at all.

So how can you say that when athiests reject one model, they reject all?

Islam has the model for God that is free from all these imperfections. Our Allah is All Powerful, All Merciful, All Wise, All Just, and All knowledgeable.

He has no physical shape and not like anything that we can imagine of. He is Living, Present always and shall never die.

Please tell me, why this model cannot answer what all requirement for God that your studies of Universe reveal?

So if you reject such a Creator, you are showing your own non reasonability , your illogical and biased behaviour, nothing else.

You cannot find any mistake in Islamic concept of God and Creator which can be negated by any study of observation of nature by science.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#14505 Apr 13, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
I know that according to Islam, in Muslim heaven women will outnumber men by at least 4:1 and in some cases 72:1
That is if there are any left after Islamic men have honour killed their way through the female species.
You can only talk in such language and think you are very smart.

In fact you display only your ignorance and unreasonable attitude.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#14506 Apr 13, 2013
Religion = superstition
It really is as simple as that.

It's divisive and god-bothering (prayer) is a waste of time.
JMHO

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