Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24182 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#14445 Apr 9, 2013
Henry wrote:
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Religions in a nuclear inferno means nothing at all. I am sure we are on the way to the end of mankind. Like it or not!
You have a pretty negative view of human nature ;) Nuclear war is a future possibility, but certainty?? To KNOW the future is a charactistic of end time religious beliefs of Christianity and Islam. Life is not that certain IMO.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#14446 Apr 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
01. I did not say that there are no decent posters on the thread. I only said about those who are replying to my posts.
Look at them, do they look like "serious" or posts that are civil? If you support these posters, then you show yourself as a biased person.
02. By calling God as "Imaginary Egoistic God" you have proven how illogical and biased person you are. How can you call your version as "Logical" even without discussion.
I only answer serious and logical questions an queries,
03. I never disappear from any thread I join, unless it is closed. I keep watch on the discussions and comment when I find any worthy post.
04. Islam is the ONLY religion that is based on reason and logic and with as few Dogma as possible.
It is a common man's religion and that is why any one after close study of Islam join it.
People who write against Islam are generally those who have not studied about Islam and they are not aware of their own religion.
They say about Islam what they see in papers and News and Media, without taking pains to verify it or ask from knowledgeable Muslims.
There's no such thing as god. Just go back to society and contribute in a positive way without spreading your mental illness to other similarily ignorant people.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#14447 Apr 9, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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There's no such thing as god. Just go back to society and contribute in a positive way without spreading your mental illness to other similarily ignorant people.
Thanks for the advice, but what is your question?

Since: Mar 12

Mumbai, India

#14448 Apr 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
01. I did not say that there are no decent posters on the thread. I only said about those who are replying to my posts.
Look at them, do they look like "serious" or posts that are civil? If you support these posters, then you show yourself as a biased person.
02. By calling God as "Imaginary Egoistic God" you have proven how illogical and biased person you are. How can you call your version as "Logical" even without discussion.
I only answer serious and logical questions an queries,
03. I never disappear from any thread I join, unless it is closed. I keep watch on the discussions and comment when I find any worthy post.
04. Islam is the ONLY religion that is based on reason and logic and with as few Dogma as possible.
It is a common man's religion and that is why any one after close study of Islam join it.
People who write against Islam are generally those who have not studied about Islam and they are not aware of their own religion.
They say about Islam what they see in papers and News and Media, without taking pains to verify it or ask from knowledgeable Muslims.
MUQ,then why were your views on God were contradicting when I asked you simple questions about God.There is nothing in my post as illogical as your series of posts that you posted in this thread.
1)When I asked you whether God needs us or not,you simply answered that God is independent and he does not need anybody.
2)I then asked you why did God create us.You couldn't give a proper answer to that.
3)In one of your posts,you cited a verse from Quran that said Human beings and Angels were created to serve God.
If God really needs service,then how could he be independent?
Don't these contradict each other?
Explain me the relation between these two polar views of yours.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#14449 Apr 9, 2013
Child brides who flee the man they were forced to marry against their will end up in prison for it.

http://news.yahoo.com/most-women-kabul-prison...

What are your thoughts on this and the Islamic taught, Muslim child brides?
MUQ wrote:
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Thanks for the advice, but what is your question?
Thinking

Bolton, UK

#14450 Apr 9, 2013
Why do your lot cut the pissflaps out of little girls?
MUQ wrote:
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Thanks for the advice, but what is your question?
jacktheladat1

Sheffield, UK

#14451 Apr 9, 2013
fadu singh wrote:
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Is that a valid excuse?There are many decent posters here.Why can't you accept your own incompetence to explain things?
You haven't even answered my questions that I'd put before you when we were arguing on 'your imaginary Egotistic God'.You had suddenly disappeared from this thread after that and now you have returned back after a long time.
Can you answer those questions to prove that your stance is right?
Your faith doesn't go hand in hand with logic,isn't it?
MUG hasn't even acknowledged I've questioned him. Where does THAT place me in the queue? He's in denial of everything bearing so much as a minuscule resemblance to the truth, as well as fundamental logic. I gave-up when he did a runner, & I can't be bothered with his kind of contribution any longer.He desecrates bandwidth just by signing in.

Since: Mar 11

Salem, IN

#14452 Apr 9, 2013
On Muq's scribd page he admits that Allah has three daughters who are the ones that communicate to humanity, oh and Allah has sex with these three daughters but it's not invest because... Well because he's Allah! Lol! But this comes straight from the pre Islam days of Arabia where Allah is the moon and the stars are his daughters and he has relations with his three favorites.

Wait it gets better! Muq clearly states that Allah very likely has sexual intercourse with the Prophet Muhammad plunging his (sword) into Muhammad as he wishes!

Go to Muslim heaven and get anally raped by Allah of Allah so wishes!

Wow! Muslims actually believe this and still follow Islam? I guess now we know why submitting is so important to them!

Lmfao!

Since: Mar 12

Mumbai, India

#14453 Apr 9, 2013
jacktheladat1 wrote:
<quoted text>MUG hasn't even acknowledged I've questioned him. Where does THAT place me in the queue? He's in denial of everything bearing so much as a minuscule resemblance to the truth, as well as fundamental logic. I gave-up when he did a runner, & I can't be bothered with his kind of contribution any longer.He desecrates bandwidth just by signing in.
That is what a bit annoying of him.His views are very illogical.He just evaded my questions when I pointed out to his embarrassingly illogical statements.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#14454 Apr 9, 2013
This is a common Middle Eastern tactic. When you don't like a question ignore it, ramble on about something else completely unrelated and hope to change the subject or that the person gives up asking you the unwanted question.
fadu singh wrote:
<quoted text>That is what a bit annoying of him.His views are very illogical.He just evaded my questions when I pointed out to his embarrassingly illogical statements.
Lincoln

United States

#14455 Apr 9, 2013
Year 2038 a Mayan Calendar thing?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#14456 Apr 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
See the "low level of decency" to which our great scholars have fallen on these threads.
How could you have discussions with such people, who have lost all sense of decency and how to talk in a civilized manner.
Pure projection from you.
Lincoln

United States

#14457 Apr 9, 2013
A soldier returns from Iraq and places a cross on the military base at camp Pendelton to memorialize his fallen comrades. Atheist-Fundamentalists sue to remove it because it is on public property. :-)
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#14458 Apr 9, 2013
SG wrote:
1. Christians (it is claimed there are up to 2 billion of them) believe that Jesus is the only way, that he is unique and believing in ehat he did as recorded in the gospels in the only way to be saved.

02. They believe that Muhammad is a false prophet, and that he didn't fulfill any detailed prophecy. Stories about Muhammad splitting the moon in two and flying on a winged horse to heaven, are according to Christians, absurd fairy tales.

03. Muslims live in their bubble of delusion kidding themselves in believing one set of fairy tales. Christians are in a separate bubble of delusion believing in their set of fairy tales. The only sensible people are those who are outside both sets of delusional bubbles, and can think for themselves and reason for themselves, without the need to believe in religious dogma or ridiculous stories.

2.

The reason why someone would believe in Allah, or the Christian Trinity, or Krishna, or Buddha, has little to do with what is the "true religion". In nearly all cases it is because that is the religion that someone has been indoctrinated into since birth. For example in the town where I live there is a Anglican church, Catholic, Methodist, Baptist and Evangelical churches.

There are no mosques, sikh temples, buddhist temples, hindu temples, etc. Therefore it is highly unlikely anyone where I live would voluntarily adopt Islam. But in a neighbouring city there are lots of mosques. Where first, second and third generation immigrants are muslims. They are muslims because that is what they have been brought up to believe is true. It is not based on a rational assessment of the evidence.
Ans.

01. So if Christians become 5 Billion and start believing that Sun does not give the light, but moon gives it, it would become the truth?

In these matters they have to bring proofs from their scripture to confirm what they believe in.

Jesus was the "Only Way to God" when his mission was on. This is true for every prophet of God during the period of their Mission.

02. Christians saying that our prophet is a false prophet would not make him a false prophet.

Our prophet did fulfill all the prophesies made about him both OT and NT books.

Well if you are talking about miracles, then Jesus being born of Virgin Mary and removing all those evil spirits from people… are worse fairy tales than what our prophet did,

04. Every one can say and believe that his or her religion is the true religion. But you should not take every claim of their face value and say all of them are correct or all of them are false.

You should ask people to bring proofs for their claims and then use reason and logic to find out who is speaking the truth.

It has become a fashion these days for people either to say all religions are true or all are false.

Ask Christians, did Jesus named his followers as Christians? Did Jesus ever used the Term Trinity? Did Jesus ever told that he is personal Saviour of every one?

So what majority of Christians believe are not what Jesus taught. It is what their popes and their priests teach.

In case of Islam, every muslim belief if traceable to either Quran or saying of our prophet.

05. And same way it is wrong that every one follows the religion of their family. If that was the case how come there are 2 billion Christians in the world today?

It means that many people changed the religion of their parents and became Christian at some time.

The same is true for Islam and the same is true for Hinduism and Buddhism etc.

So who are we to stop this choice from people and say "from now on, no one will change his religion"?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#14459 Apr 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. So if Christians become 5 Billion and start believing that Sun does not give the light, but moon gives it, it would become the truth?
In these matters they have to bring proofs from their scripture to confirm what they believe in.
Jesus was the "Only Way to God" when his mission was on. This is true for every prophet of God during the period of their Mission.
02. Christians saying that our prophet is a false prophet would not make him a false prophet.
Our prophet did fulfill all the prophesies made about him both OT and NT books.
Well if you are talking about miracles, then Jesus being born of Virgin Mary and removing all those evil spirits from people… are worse fairy tales than what our prophet did,
04. Every one can say and believe that his or her religion is the true religion. But you should not take every claim of their face value and say all of them are correct or all of them are false.
You should ask people to bring proofs for their claims and then use reason and logic to find out who is speaking the truth.
It has become a fashion these days for people either to say all religions are true or all are false.
Ask Christians, did Jesus named his followers as Christians? Did Jesus ever used the Term Trinity? Did Jesus ever told that he is personal Saviour of every one?
So what majority of Christians believe are not what Jesus taught. It is what their popes and their priests teach.
In case of Islam, every muslim belief if traceable to either Quran or saying of our prophet.
05. And same way it is wrong that every one follows the religion of their family. If that was the case how come there are 2 billion Christians in the world today?
It means that many people changed the religion of their parents and became Christian at some time.
The same is true for Islam and the same is true for Hinduism and Buddhism etc.
So who are we to stop this choice from people and say "from now on, no one will change his religion"?
You haven't explained why your illiterate child-raper managed to ... "write" the quoran.

But if, by magic, he WAS the author?

That explains ... quite a bit-- it certainly explains why the quorian is so ...

... depraved, and so...

... devoid of morality, ethics and just plain common sense.

What else from an illiterate child-raper? But garbage.

“Right click Left click Yay!”

Since: Dec 10

Nehwon

#14460 Apr 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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USA might be paying for Bush's actions, but what about himself?
is he not enjoying full protection of same USA whom he cheated and swindled?
What type of democracy you people have, where such crooks are given state protection?
The country suffers while the Criminal enjoys happy retirement?
There is some thing very wrong in your model of democracy, some thing very wrong.
Well, I see that you have derailed the thread with politics rather than addressing the religious questions.

Or are you suggesting that politics is so intertwined with religion that both are easily susceptible to greed and power?

If so, there may be hope for you yet - the same desires that Bush had also applies to your religion.

Religion is politics.

“Right click Left click Yay!”

Since: Dec 10

Nehwon

#14461 Apr 9, 2013
Henry wrote:
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Capitalism is of course the end of mankind. But in the nuclear age it is the certain end of humanity in a deadly inferno! So we don`t have to worry any more! No billionair can this prevent.
Still banging this drum, I see.

So what's your solution?

“Right click Left click Yay!”

Since: Dec 10

Nehwon

#14462 Apr 9, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
A soldier returns from Iraq and places a cross on the military base at camp Pendelton to memorialize his fallen comrades. Atheist-Fundamentalists sue to remove it because it is on public property.:-)
What a cute made up story.

Let me try...

A soldier returns from Iraq and places a cross on the military base at camp Pendelton to memorialize his fallen comrades because his commanding officer orders him to replace the Star of David and the Crescent memorials.

But I'm guessing you won't notice the problem here. After all, this is a Christian nation, right?
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#14463 Apr 10, 2013
greymouser wrote:
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Well, I see that you have derailed the thread with politics rather than addressing the religious questions.
Or are you suggesting that politics is so intertwined with religion that both are easily susceptible to greed and power?
If so, there may be hope for you yet - the same desires that Bush had also applies to your religion.
Religion is politics.
In Islam there is no distinction between religion and politics.

In west they chose to separate them because their scriptures have no info on how to deal with economic issues, social issues and how to deal with people of other faiths.

What is religion? To have proper relation with your Creator.

What is Politics: To have proper relation with your fellow citizens and those around you.

How can you separate religion from Politics?

One Great Muslim poet said "If you divorce religion from Politics, only Tyranny is left".

And since they divorced religion from politics, the politics has become duplicity, hypocrisy,tyranny , lies and cheating people, nothing else.

And this goes on from Local Counsellors to the Head of State, there is not a single exception!!

If you go against nature, it would take revenge on you and it is very harsh.

PS:

These wikileaks documents show how the politics is every one of the things I said. Politicians have "Two faces" , one they show to the public and camera, and you see them "Polished, smiling and patting each other on backs, as if they are bosom friends and doves and angles of peace"

But they have another face which is hidden from camera and in this you can see them in their true colors "mean, uncouth, scheming, trying to harm each other, and using every means fair and foul to gain unfair advantage"

This is what which shall happen NATURALLY when you separate religion from Politics.

That is why we see almost every politician, being horrified with religion!!

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#14464 Apr 10, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
In Islam there is no distinction between religion and politics.
In west they chose to separate them because their scriptures have no info on how to deal with economic issues, social issues and how to deal with people of other faiths.
What is religion? To have proper relation with your Creator.
What is Politics: To have proper relation with your fellow citizens and those around you.
How can you separate religion from Politics?
One Great Muslim poet said "If you divorce religion from Politics, only Tyranny is left".
And since they divorced religion from politics, the politics has become duplicity, hypocrisy,tyranny , lies and cheating people, nothing else.
And this goes on from Local Counsellors to the Head of State, there is not a single exception!!
If you go against nature, it would take revenge on you and it is very harsh.
PS:
These wikileaks documents show how the politics is every one of the things I said. Politicians have "Two faces" , one they show to the public and camera, and you see them "Polished, smiling and patting each other on backs, as if they are bosom friends and doves and angles of peace"
But they have another face which is hidden from camera and in this you can see them in their true colors "mean, uncouth, scheming, trying to harm each other, and using every means fair and foul to gain unfair advantage"
This is what which shall happen NATURALLY when you separate religion from Politics.
That is why we see almost every politician, being horrified with religion!!
You're a liar lying about a god you have no proof of. We are actually laughing at you, not having a serious discussion.

But I think irony is lost on mentally ill folk like you.

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