Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24178 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#13154 Mar 3, 2013
Zero award winning young girls have been killed by drones. A drone wouldn't have a chance to get to her because your Muslim heroes will reach her first.

Isn't it sad how your barbaric blood thirsty Quran teaches it's followers to do this?
MUQ wrote:
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The question was how many Malalas have been killed in Drone attacks? And what precautions are taken not to kill Malalas in these drones attacks.
It seems more Malalas have been killed in drone attacks than saved.
About 9/11, it is still not sure who was behind it? Now they killed OBL, the prime suspect, so it will remain in mystery.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#13155 Mar 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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You did not answer, how many Malalas your drones killed? What is protection in your drones to not kill Malalas?
Do not try to escape, say at least I do not know to be honest!!
I never avoid a question and never fear one.

“In just a single attack on a madrassah in 2006 up to 69 children lost their lives”- quoted from:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asi...
Of course, drones may not be the right method, but first someone has to convince those in responsible positions with ‘all the facts’ that there’s an effective alternative.

Note that those using drones used them to prevent loss of life, legally, they didn't aim to kill the children, or to terrorise people, and more people would have been killed if they had gone after the criminals on the ground across an international border - five vital differences between them and terrorists.

How else are such violent and ruthless fundamentalists going to be stopped? Pakistan has been unable to do it by themselves. They have huge problems as you should know better than I.

Now you answer my questions...

I take it you don't really believe in leprechauns. Sarcasm doesn't suit you and let's both drop the anagonism. The disgust many feel for your silly views is clear enough.

http://www.godchecker.com/
It seems fairly obvious to a disinterested observer that religion is usually parent-given. One must accept it isn't god-given unless one is foolish enough to believe that an all-knowing "creator" communicated with us through one the many and varied prophets of the past and then left us to guess which one, using only the various "good books". Presumably an entity worth "worshiping" isn't that stupid, though why anyone would worship anything in a modern era is a question in itself, even if there were a god(s).

So, given all the various religions, how do you know your father gave you the "correct" one?

How carefully did he really question it himself? Did he examine all the deities in Godchecker and give them equal credence, or might he have been biased towards Islam due to the geographical, chronological and social context of his birth and life?

What would have happened if he had told you it was all nonsense?
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#13156 Mar 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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War is a fact of life and as God gave instructions to Moses and to Joshua and to DAvid and to Solomon and to many prophets to go and fight the enemies of faith...
So did God told our prophets and Muslims to stand up and fight against the forces of Dark, the forces of oppression, the forces of mischief, the forces of injustice.
What is wrong and shameful in these passages and why should we feel bad?...
Where to start with what's wrong with that!

War is caused by men. It is no longer simply 'a fact of life'. People are responsible for it.

It is shameful that people are still fighting for the right to go to school and divided into different religions.



We have far more important things we need to attend to and must cooperate. This planet is changing climatically and geologically and we cannot inhabit this forever. We need to look to the future and not some silly past based on ancient myths like Islam, Christianity, etc, etc.
http://www.godchecker.com/
MUQ wrote:
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Did not Jesus told his followers to "turn the other cheek and love their enemies"?
What did Christians do? They spilled more innocent human blood than all other religions combined.
Do not speak like a child. Speak like a man. It is very pleasing to hear, Turn the Other Cheek, Love your enemies....but they are not practicable for most of humans on this earth.
Islam is a practical religion, not some philosophical idea.
Stop rambling. It isn't a competition to see who's worst. The aim is to cooperate and stop the divisions and violence amongst humanity.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#13157 Mar 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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It seems more Malalas have been killed in drone attacks than saved.
About 9/11, it is still not sure who was behind it? Now they killed OBL, the prime suspect, so it will remain in mystery.
No, Islamic fundamentalist bombers kill many Malalas every day. Far more than anyone in the West kills and the fundamentalists aim to cause these tragedies...
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrj...

Islam is part of the problem and impedes any solution because people who mean well think they are defending Islam from people like me. I'm not even interested in Islam!

If one doesn't want atheism to lead the way, religionists are going to have to show how religious divisions help.

Religion = superstition. And Islam is a religion.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#13158 Mar 3, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Zero award winning young girls have been killed by drones. A drone wouldn't have a chance to get to her because your Muslim heroes will reach her first...<quoted text>
Isn't this anger talking rather than objectivity?

Children having been killed by drones is perhaps the best argument against using drones. However, if the fundamentalists trying to destabilise Afghanistan and Pakistan aren't stopped, a great many more Malalas will die than the West would ever kill. That is perhaps the only excuse for using drones?
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#13159 Mar 3, 2013
Malala isn't important because she is an award winner. She is important because of all the young children in the world threatened by terrorists for whom we all are collectively responsible.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#13160 Mar 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
You really are a parrot!! What would Darwin say?
He would say, "Look, read and respond, or we see that you capitulate".

<quoted text>MUQ wrote: 1. I think you share your problem with your friend and should share an adjoining cell. Because you reject both god and leprechauns. And you have additional problem with seeing “thighs” all 24 hours of your life. You need more urgent help.

R.P. wrote ~ I only see that you dirty, pig shit eaters would use a baby as a sexual device, you are filth. I doubt that I ever have to fear being imprisoned because I reject little blue gods, and all gods with elephants heads, and any god who would not strike down a dog/man thighing a baby. That god is the lowest and worst of all the myth-gods.

MUQ wrote: 2. You can use car without ever thinking about “who made it”(but the idea that some one made it and if it breaks down I have to go to him to get it repaired)….. but the concept of Creator is not that simple.
R.P. wrote ~ I doubt the factory will allow you access to their assembly bots and the people who use them. And gods are very much simpler, they are tools, made by men. And, in your god's case, it is a retooled tool, meant to keep you cowards from protecting your children, while Moo-HAM-ed, got to molest them.

MUQ wrote: If it was mere a “philosophical discussion” then it does not matter any way, but it is not a philosophical discussion, it is linked with “what is purpose of our life on this earth”
R.P. wrote ~ We have no purpose other than what we choose for ourselves. It is our choices that make or break us, and if someone else makes the choice for you, then you most likely are enslaved or just too dumb to do it yourself. It's good that you have the dead perve Moo-HAM-ed to make your choices for you.

MUQ wrote: And more frightening is “what shall happen to me when I die”. If you think these questions are not important to you, then again you are in need to see that doctor.
R.P. wrote ~ That is not at all frightening, I have already died, and there was nothing at all past that last breath, nothing. It was doctors who would not stop working to keep me on the planet, and they succeeded.

MUQ wrote: 3. You have no real answer as to these questions and when some one is telling you, you just make fun of him.
R.P. wrote ~ Duh, what you are telling us is just plain stupid, and I have answers to every one of your idiot bits of crap. Try not being so ridiculous and we won't mock your stupidity.

MUQ wrote: The only cure for such people is to face death and find out by themselves.
R.P. wrote ~ See there you go being stupid again, I have been there, done that, and brought home the t-shirt. I had no doofus god before I died, and I damned sure will have no god now.

MUQ wrote: But you believe or do not, it would not change the realities any way.
R.P. wrote ~ I believe I will spend the rest of my life educating the real men on this planet about what you pig shit eaters, do to babies.

A little reality for you .... research what happens to baby fuckers in the USA's prisons, and think about this if the men of my family caught you, getting into prison would be the best luck you could ever have.as a convicted baby raper.

Did you know that raping babies is a crime, that will get you sent to prison?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#13161 Mar 3, 2013
Naturally. I brought this up as a reminder to Muq of why she was attacked something he runs from. The people purposely trying to destabilize the region purposely hide amongst the innocent because it buys them time and worse come to worse their ilk can use it for propaganda purposes. The people around them are usually either ignorant or brow beaten with the Quran into hiding or helping them. This is tragic and a clear display or barbarians taking advantage of more civilized people.

And Muq knows this.
EdSed wrote:
Malala isn't important because she is an award winner. She is important because of all the young children in the world threatened by terrorists for whom we all are collectively responsible.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#13162 Mar 3, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Isn't this anger talking rather than objectivity?
Children having been killed by drones is perhaps the best argument against using drones. However, if the fundamentalists trying to destabilise Afghanistan and Pakistan aren't stopped, a great many more Malalas will die than the West would ever kill. That is perhaps the only excuse for using drones?
Children have been victims of war ever since there has been war.

In the not-all-that-distant past, children were often victims of violent rape and death, at the hands of conquering armies.

This was in the day before armies were re-supplied from the countries who sent them into the fields. The army was expected to fend for itself, by rapacious pillaging of the locals-- and young children were all too often victims of that, irrespective of gender.

In later times, the older boys were often singled out for incarceration into the army itself-- by force.

I'd love to say those days are behind us due to modern transportation and logistics, but it just ain't so:

In modern times, small terrorist groups use these exact same tactics as we saw in the sword-and-shield days. You'll see this on most of the continents that still harbor local war: Africa, South America, Eastern Europe and of course, Asia.

Rooting out these smallish tribes of terrorists, using conventional armies causes much destruction: it is akin to going after a small fly with a sledge hammer--with several people wielding sledge hammers.

Yes, eventually you'll get that pesky fly. But at what cost? All the furniture is smashed, most of the walls too.

But a drone strike is necessarily a limited strike weapon--it's a one-shot device, and (if conventional) will at most take out a single building.

Instead of that building and all the buildings between that and the point-of-entry by a conventional army force.

So I can kinda see why a drone would be chosen over conventional means.

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Of course, there is another point that makes drones even more desirable to those who choose to use them: none of the invading army is in harms way in any way, shape or form-- the drone is (by definition) unmanned, and remote-controlled. Only the people at the target get hurt or killed.

Making it far more palatable to a fickle population back home-- none of "our" boys/girls get hurt in a drone strike...

... and that last?

Is the ugly truth as to why drones are being used more and more.

People don't have the stomach for war.

Which I see as progress-- but unfortunately-- there's alternatives that let the war continue, without the people-cost.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#13163 Mar 3, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Isn't this anger talking rather than objectivity?
Children having been killed by drones is perhaps the best argument against using drones. However, if the fundamentalists trying to destabilise Afghanistan and Pakistan aren't stopped, a great many more Malalas will die than the West would ever kill. That is perhaps the only excuse for using drones?
Having posted a rather longish analysis re: drones, I must point out that the only alternatives to ferreting out small groups of terrorists is to use feet-on-the-ground.

Either clandestine "special ops" groups (very expensive to train and even more expensive to deploy, both in political cost and monetary cost), or whole invading armies taking over the whole place (as we did in Afghanistan-- at an even greater cost), or sending in robots.

Looking at the total cost? The robots seem to be a viable, cheaper alternative: both in human costs and in resource-costs. Moreover the drone can target a single building, rather than the typical "shotgun" approach of conventional army/bomb strikes.

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I'm not saying it's moral or ethical-- I'm just analyzing the costs versus other means to achieve the goal of eliminating a terrorist group's actives.

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#13164 Mar 3, 2013
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
A 'lack of belief' is not approving as well as not denying.
I have a lack of belief that obama is a good president but I cannot say he doesnt exist either.
So what are you?
An agnostic or maltheist?
<quoted text>
But it has to have a point of origin and ultimately a singular point.
And that singular point would have to have an intelligence of some sort, it could not come about by 'chance'
You seem to lack in the area of critical thinking skills. Obama exists in flesh and blood whether you like him or not. Voting is the way to show your approval or disapproval. Don't confuse the two.

How do you know the universe has a point of origin or not? Why would it have to be guided by an intelligent entity? Your proof is.......??? Wouldn't that intelligent entity have to have a creator....and that former creator have it's own creator? You don't seem to care for 'chance' is that fact or merely your opinion?

Your logic does not stand up under scrutiny. You've backed yourself into a corner, now let's see you get out.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#13165 Mar 3, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
I see you are unable to grasp what an Atheist is Muq. Muslim blood is spilled when Muslims attach innocent people. Learn to coexist with others and the bloodshed will stop.
<quoted text>
Want to teach us co-existence?

Learn how Jews dealt with Christians in the first three centuries of Christianity

And then how Christians dealt with Jews in the remaining 17 centuries.

And how Muslims dealt with Jews in past 1400 years.

And how Jews are dealing with Muslims in past 60 years?

Trying to teach us brotherly love? Are you?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#13166 Mar 3, 2013
All of you worshippers of the Abrahamic god are barbaric animals.

I am an atheist and a secular humanist I could care less if you and the other sub human animals have brotherly love for each other Muq but don't you want to see Muslims stop blowing themselves up in their intolerant temper tantrums?

See you swine Jewish wannabes need to learn to coexist with everyone regardless of religious beliefs.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Want to teach us co-existence?
Learn how Jews dealt with Christians in the first three centuries of Christianity
And then how Christians dealt with Jews in the remaining 17 centuries.
And how Muslims dealt with Jews in past 1400 years.
And how Jews are dealing with Muslims in past 60 years?
Trying to teach us brotherly love? Are you?
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#13167 Mar 3, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
All of you worshippers of the Abrahamic god are barbaric animals.
I am an atheist and a secular humanist I could care less if you and the other sub human animals have brotherly love for each other Muq but don't you want to see Muslims stop blowing themselves up in their intolerant temper tantrums?
See you swine Jewish wannabes need to learn to coexist with everyone regardless of religious beliefs.
<quoted text>
Are you calling Jews and Christians as Barbaric?

You should be sent to prison for Anti Semitism!!

Publish your home address, so we can send Police to get you arrested and sent to GITMO pronto!!

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#13168 Mar 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you calling Jews and Christians as Barbaric?
You should be sent to prison for Anti Semitism!!
Publish your home address, so we can send Police to get you arrested and sent to GITMO pronto!!
It is called "freedom of speach", and we have the right to speak. We will not be imprisoned for our point of view. That yours and other religions are barbaric is easily proven, one merely has to look at your track records. Can you even imagine looking at the truth, and then saying it aloud?
Siro

Auburn, Australia

#13170 Mar 4, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
All of you worshippers of the Abrahamic god are barbaric animals.
I am an atheist and a secular humanist I could care less if you and the other sub human animals have brotherly love for each other Muq but don't you want to see Muslims stop blowing themselves up in their intolerant temper tantrums?
See you swine Jewish wannabes need to learn to coexist with everyone regardless of religious beliefs.
<quoted text>
Thus speaketh the porn peddler and slumlord.
The wannabe black power thugsta.
You the predator who goes to disaster zones in asia to 'save' those in distress.
You call believers 'barbaric animals'?
YO.......
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#13171 Mar 4, 2013
Drones are cool. No Westerner should lose a limb for islam.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Now you have got a new toy Malala...keep playing with it, till one day you discover that she was killed in one of those Drone strikes....by mistake of course.
Do you know how many Malalas you have already killed in those Drone strikes or these drones have some "built-in" Malala detectors and kill every one else but Malalas?
Trying to educate us, do you?

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#13172 Mar 4, 2013
I said nothing of the Jewish race.

I said all those who worship the mythological god of Abraham are barbaric and all of you have people who are guilty of savage acts upon humanity.

Why do you hate the Jews so much? Oh ya because the Quran commands you to be intolerant.

That is why you are a subhuman swine.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you calling Jews and Christians as Barbaric?
You should be sent to prison for Anti Semitism!!
Publish your home address, so we can send Police to get you arrested and sent to GITMO pronto!!
eresh

Växjö, Sweden

#13173 Mar 4, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Drones are cool. No Westerner should lose a limb for islam.
<quoted text>
most coward method, most of the missions are resulted with higher civilian causalities than the enemies killed. but that doesnt bother you pathetic islamophobes and racists. "global terrorism" is hardly your problem.
Athiest

Norway

#13174 Mar 4, 2013
http://theforeigner.no/pages/news/loo-paper-m...

We wipe our arses with religion, Atheism rules!!!

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