Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24182 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#12680 Feb 10, 2013
At least he didn't strap bombs to children and have them run into a shopping mall like your people do.
MUQ wrote:
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Well Karl Marx is dead and his communism is dead and religions are alive and thriving.
That shows Karl Marx was speaking thru his hat!!
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#12681 Feb 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Well Karl Marx is dead and his communism is dead and religions are alive and thriving.
That shows Karl Marx was speaking thru his hat!!
Yet he may be remembered and perhaps is more highly regarded than Mohammed (Police Be Upon Him). And though largely discredited, Marx still makes more sense than belief in an Abrahamic god.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#12682 Feb 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Hi Muq, in your religion approx what proportion of the world population burn in a literal hell fire?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#12683 Feb 11, 2013
Darwin wrote:
01.I realize that you accept Mohammed's book just because Mohammed said that God gave it to him...purely on just Mohammed's word.

02. But outside of religion, most of the rest of the world doesn't work that way, and certainly science and science education doesn't. It takes a lot more than the say-so of one man.
Ans.

01. That is one reason, the other reason is that the book itself gave challenge to whole humanity that if they doubt, it is not from God, then let them bring another book like it.

If not whole book, then at least ten chapter like it, if not ten chapter then One Chapter like it.

So far no one has come forward to meet this challenge in past 1400 years. There are millions of Arabic Speaking Jews and Christians, they all hear this Quranic "boast" and keep quite!!

So it is not "Only" the words of our prophet.

02. In Quran there is nothing against science. Science deals with material world and Quran speaks about next world and what humans should do to pass the test of their lives.

There is no contradiction in their field of specialization.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#12684 Feb 11, 2013
RP wrote:
01. Do you have a car? Do you make your own license plates and registration with crayons? Why not? How about birth certificates and marriage licenses, how many have you cut out and colored for your family? Do you make your own money from construction paper too?

02. Some people have standards, when it comes to going about accomplishing their goals in a legitimate and time honored way, it's too bad you don't. To have value and earning potential for it's holder, a degree must be earned, through hard work and diligence. You don't understand that concept do you?
Ans.

My correspondent said that No one , No university is interested in his / her field of research.

So what was the solution than to grant him / her own degree and start their own university.

Why you took so much offense at my idea?

What I understand is that you have picked up a very wrong Pseudo name for yourself on this thread.

You are Unreason Personified, really!!

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#12685 Feb 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
My correspondent said that No one , No university is interested in his / her field of research.
So what was the solution than to grant him / her own degree and start their own university.
Why you took so much offense at my idea?
What I understand is that you have picked up a very wrong Pseudo name for yourself on this thread.
You are Unreason Personified, really!!
No what he actually said was that his advisor had died, and another had moved. Those who are left are not interested in his field of study. And he said nothing at all about the university, but he did say he was constrained by truth. We can all see that you aren't.

So I repeat "Some people have standards, when it comes to going about accomplishing their goals in a legitimate and time honored way, it's too bad you don't. To have value and earning potential for it's holder, a degree must be earned, through hard work and diligence. You don't understand that concept do you? ".

Since: Mar 11

United States

#12686 Feb 11, 2013
1: much of the Quran is stolen from the Torah, gospels even Hindu writings from centuries earlier. Only difference is the Quran preaches non stop war, violence, slavery and rape whereas the other holy myths take a break from that stuf every now and then.

2: The Quran demonizes homosexuals for example yet praises Alexander the Great who was no doubt a homosexual. It preaches the creation myth and makes thousands of errors. Not to mention we have no secular proof for this Muhammad. None nada zero zip and that is puzzling because of the time he lived and how he was supposed to be this grand conquerer. Hence the Quran either exaggerates his deeds or completely made him and his story up.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. That is one reason, the other reason is that the book itself gave challenge to whole humanity that if they doubt, it is not from God, then let them bring another book like it.
If not whole book, then at least ten chapter like it, if not ten chapter then One Chapter like it.
So far no one has come forward to meet this challenge in past 1400 years. There are millions of Arabic Speaking Jews and Christians, they all hear this Quranic "boast" and keep quite!!
So it is not "Only" the words of our prophet.
02. In Quran there is nothing against science. Science deals with material world and Quran speaks about next world and what humans should do to pass the test of their lives.
There is no contradiction in their field of specialization.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#12687 Feb 11, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
1: much of the Quran is stolen from the Torah, gospels even Hindu writings from centuries earlier. Only difference is the Quran preaches non stop war, violence, slavery and rape whereas the other holy myths take a break from that stuf every now and then.
2: The Quran demonizes homosexuals for example yet praises Alexander the Great who was no doubt a homosexual. It preaches the creation myth and makes thousands of errors. Not to mention we have no secular proof for this Muhammad. None nada zero zip and that is puzzling because of the time he lived and how he was supposed to be this grand conquerer. Hence the Quran either exaggerates his deeds or completely made him and his story up.
<quoted text>
Good points.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#12688 Feb 11, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Scientific results are
Never faked for
Federal Grant money :-)
Not if you want to keep getting Federal Grant Money. If you are convicted of fraud, the funds tend to die out.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#12689 Feb 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
My correspondent said that No one , No university is interested in his / her field of research.
No, that is NOT what I said. The first person who was going to be my physics advisor got cancer which spread to his brain and he died. The second person moved to another state. Nobody left *at my university* is interested in astrophysics. Since I have a job here, I don't have the freedom to move to another location, so the PhD in physics is on hold. I have completed the classwork and the qualifying exams. I simply need a thesis topic and the time to do some research under the supervision of an expert in the area.
So what was the solution than to grant him / her own degree and start their own university.
Because accreditation means something in science. Working with an expert in the field is an important step in becoming an expert yourself.

Unlike in religious studies, the sciences are required to have some correlation to reality.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#12690 Feb 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Why you took so much offense at my idea?
Because the idea is offensive. It suggests that advanced degrees are simply awarded for no work and anyone can print them up and use them.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#12691 Feb 11, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Scientific results are
Never faked for
Federal Grant money :-)
This is a comment that shows a failure to understand the scientific method.

Sure, some fake results. But...the scientific method, with its insistence on repeatability, will expose such fakery. And when it is exposed, the reputation of the faker is permanently ruined.

BTW...you mention only federal grant money. Does this mean you think grants from private sources are unsullied? Such as those from the tobacco industry?

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#12692 Feb 11, 2013
I may conclude that the "power of prayer" didn't do anything for the Pope. just a thought!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#12693 Feb 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
My correspondent said that No one , No university is interested in his / her field of research.
So what was the solution than to grant him / her own degree and start their own university.
Why you took so much offense at my idea?
What I understand is that you have picked up a very wrong Pseudo name for yourself on this thread.
You are Unreason Personified, really!!
Still no explanation for why your Muhumud was a child-raping illiterate pedophile, who promoted murder, genocide and hate.

Why?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#12694 Feb 11, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Because the idea is offensive. It suggests that advanced degrees are simply awarded for no work and anyone can print them up and use them.
I have no doubt that in MUQ's case, and int he case of most "doctors of theology" this >>is<< the case: they are printed up like newspapers.

How can you do "research" on a subject that does not exist (god)?

... you can't.

Thus their "degrees" are as empty as their faith.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#12695 Feb 11, 2013
jacktheladat1 wrote:
I may conclude that the "power of prayer" didn't do anything for the Pope. just a thought!
Or it could be that secular authorities are hot on his heels, and he's about to disappear into protective hiding....

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#12696 Feb 11, 2013
Jesus is to busy attacking women and getting beaten by some dude names Kai it seems.
jacktheladat1 wrote:
I may conclude that the "power of prayer" didn't do anything for the Pope. just a thought!
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#12697 Feb 11, 2013
Adam wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Muq, in your religion approx what proportion of the world population burn in a literal hell fire?
As many as "wilfully" reject the message sent by God and mock His Prophets and Messengers.

A crime does not cease to become a crime because more people perform it.

That is the "Modern Democratic" way, in which a crime cease to become a crime and becomes a norm when more people start performing it.

Like Sodomy, Lesbiansim, Free Sex, Strip tease joints, live shows, gambling, usury etc.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#12698 Feb 11, 2013
Your prophet killed and entire city of people who had surrendered. He brags about killing, having sex with children and intolerance of anyone who will not accept his brutal ways. A man who we have no historical proof he even existed!

Yet this is the path to enlightenment?
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
As many as "wilfully" reject the message sent by God and mock His Prophets and Messengers.
A crime does not cease to become a crime because more people perform it.
That is the "Modern Democratic" way, in which a crime cease to become a crime and becomes a norm when more people start performing it.
Like Sodomy, Lesbiansim, Free Sex, Strip tease joints, live shows, gambling, usury etc.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#12699 Feb 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
As many as "wilfully" reject the message sent by God and mock His Prophets and Messengers.
A crime does not cease to become a crime because more people perform it.
That is the "Modern Democratic" way, in which a crime cease to become a crime and becomes a norm when more people start performing it.
Like Sodomy, Lesbiansim, Free Sex, Strip tease joints, live shows, gambling, usury etc.
Still no explaination why your "prophet" was a child-raping illiterate.

Why?

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