Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 23770 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Henry

Gotha, Germany

#12637 Feb 8, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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All you've done is verify exactly what I said. When science places no intrinsic value on the "objects" it studies, the end always justifies the means. Scientists can no more police themselves than can thieves. Science has a history of research much like the abuse by Nazi doctors during World War II when German physicians practiced unethical medical experiments on Jews, gypsies, and political prisoners. Enter the Nuremburg code and the IRB, the Institutional Review Board requiring science to focus its unethical practices on animal experimentation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_...
Regardless of these stop gaps, it is still happening.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/epas_u...
It is astounding that scientists still debate over the issue of animal sentience when it has already been established that animals think, experience emotion, and feel pain. To suggest that human life is somehow more sacred by comparison is another example of the end justifying the means. But don't think for a minute that these ghoulish fiends in lab coats do not salivate at the prospect of using humans in their diabolical experiments.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-ne...
What gives scientific researchers a license to lie, maime and kill if not a lack of ethics? While scientists may exhibit ethics in their private lives, in their professional lives....cool objectivism is the honored rule. Compassion is not allowed. The Tuskegee Study (1932) symbolizes the medical misconduct and blatant disregard for human rights that takes place in the name of science. This 40 year long syphilis study was perpetrated upon what was considered to be at the time, "insignificant human surplus" made up of poor African American men who were told that they had "bad blood". These men were not informed of the research design and its risks to them personally...nor did they receive standard treatment for syphilis even when penicillin was available later during the study.
The lack of ethics in science is a world wide problem.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2012-12/...
The "lack of ethics" is of course a problem of all exploiting classes. They use it against the exploited masses. The latter one have to fight in order to survive. In the nuclear age it is probably a failing fight! That means: mankind will be exterminated!
Henry

Gotha, Germany

#12638 Feb 8, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Of course it is.
But it is also about controlling the sheep too: the churches run the brainwashing machine such that it's followers blindly accept whatever the church says, without question.
And this brainwashing machine then goes on to tell them that the rich deserve to be all but tax-exempt. And continues the lie that these super-rich will magically create jobs, just because they are rich...
.... meh.
It goes hand-in-glove: True Believers™ make the best sheeple.
The exploiters have a fatal fake: They forget nature (Earthquakes, volcanos, terrible tsunamis, extreme climatic changes). No god, no devil, no heaven or hell will help, the laws of nature are foremost!
Henry

Gotha, Germany

#12639 Feb 8, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Then provide *evidence* that distinguishes between intelligent design and the sitomple application of the laws of physics and chemistry.
In the nuclear age religions are laughable and capitalism is on its way to fasten its suicide!

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#12640 Feb 8, 2013
Atheists rule the world you didn't hear Godzilla being called Atheistzilla
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#12641 Feb 8, 2013
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#12642 Feb 8, 2013
stop talking do something wrote:
I just think religion is a disease of the mind like many others. In my work I hire people and I never hire believers. You can drop little hints to ask without offending and they will tell you. Some are obvious some harder. After that you can pick other attributes not to hire or keep interviewing until you get one that has the skills without the mental problem of god. Some religions are more nuts than others as well. Haven't met one yet where their god has come back to give them the job.
Arguably that makes you 'anti-secular' and as bad as religionists who discriminate against atheists, doesn't it? Also, I note the criteria that concerns you is whether or not they believe in god, but I have always thought that religion was probably more harmful and superstitious than a mere belief in some kind of 'higher power'.

As daft, divisive and harmful as religion is, I don't think it necessarily prevents religionists doing a good job of work. Some religionists even have scientific qualifications. Shouldn't people be hired for their abilities, not their religious affiliations (or lack of any)? Nor should applicants be descriminated against in employment because they would like to think there's a Sky-fairy.

(Or am I taking your post Waaay too seriously?:-)
Henry

Wildenfels, Germany

#12643 Feb 8, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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What science understands only works in physical reality, but does not work in non-physical reality. It is only those who ignore the greater mental dimensions of reality who are unable to comprehend them.
<quoted text>
Which doesn't explain why atheists learn heavily on scientific explanations to justify their assertion that God can't exist because they lack a belief in God.
Well, god does not exist, but it is not "lack of believe" but lack of existence!
Henry

Wildenfels, Germany

#12644 Feb 8, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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Ah yes, it is the height of arrogance for atheists to believe that the entire universe with its billions of stars in billions of galaxies was *NOT* created just for humans.
Atheists just laugh about religionists. It is a pitiful smile no more!
Henry

Wildenfels, Germany

#12645 Feb 8, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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It's frustrating when you get caught lying about a god you have no proof of, isn't it?
It not "frustrating" but laughable! Could perhaps coming from the Bible belt!
Henry

Wildenfels, Germany

#12646 Feb 8, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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If the bible is incorrect, then it can be ignored, as can the religion and church founded on it.
Well, the Bible is full of fakes and god is just a myth!
Henry

Wildenfels, Germany

#12647 Feb 8, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
<quoted text>
All you've done is verify exactly what I said. When science places no intrinsic value on the "objects" it studies, the end always justifies the means. Scientists can no more police themselves than can thieves. Science has a history of research much like the abuse by Nazi doctors during World War II when German physicians practiced unethical medical experiments on Jews, gypsies, and political prisoners. Enter the Nuremburg code and the IRB, the Institutional Review Board requiring science to focus its unethical practices on animal experimentation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_...
Regardless of these stop gaps, it is still happening.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/epas_u...
It is astounding that scientists still debate over the issue of animal sentience when it has already been established that animals think, experience emotion, and feel pain. To suggest that human life is somehow more sacred by comparison is another example of the end justifying the means. But don't think for a minute that these ghoulish fiends in lab coats do not salivate at the prospect of using humans in their diabolical experiments.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-ne...
What gives scientific researchers a license to lie, maime and kill if not a lack of ethics? While scientists may exhibit ethics in their private lives, in their professional lives....cool objectivism is the honored rule. Compassion is not allowed. The Tuskegee Study (1932) symbolizes the medical misconduct and blatant disregard for human rights that takes place in the name of science. This 40 year long syphilis study was perpetrated upon what was considered to be at the time, "insignificant human surplus" made up of poor African American men who were told that they had "bad blood". These men were not informed of the research design and its risks to them personally...nor did they receive standard treatment for syphilis even when penicillin was available later during the study.
The lack of ethics in science is a world wide problem.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2012-12/...
It is not only "lack of ethics" it is capitalism who has no way out of a nuclear inferno!
Henry

Wildenfels, Germany

#12648 Feb 8, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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You need to understand that the biblical version of god is not the only version of God.
Laughable, god never existed!
Henry

Wildenfels, Germany

#12649 Feb 8, 2013
ilovedesigirls wrote:
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You will never stop biological competition. You see it from the smallest virus to the fattest elephant. It's an eat or be eaten world. It's what's been driving evolution for the past few billion years. Suppress capitalism and muscle power will again be the trait to compete for like cavemen before us.
No,in the nuclear age we are certainly defined for the extermination of the human race!

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#12650 Feb 8, 2013
stop talking do something wrote:
I just think religion is a disease of the mind like many others. In my work I hire people and I never hire believers. You can drop little hints to ask without offending and they will tell you. Some are obvious some harder. After that you can pick other attributes not to hire or keep interviewing until you get one that has the skills without the mental problem of god. Some religions are more nuts than others as well. Haven't met one yet where their god has come back to give them the job.
Yeah it's a disease of the mind, but if they are not bringing it into the job they should not be weeded out because of it. In fact it should be said beforehand, that any form of "holy rolling" is not going to be considered as payable time. To have that indulgence on employers time will result in the paycheck being docked. If there is any disagreement, simply explain that a whirling Dervish allowed to spin through the office makes for an inhospitable work environ for your Vodun and Pagan employees.
stop talking do something

Annandale, Australia

#12651 Feb 8, 2013
It is amazing how much effort religion and its supporters will go in order to prove nothing. How many words you will use to achieve nothing except to offend peoples intellect with babble. Humans have a long way to go there is a lot this planet who's ideas are based on nothing. Frankly its a huge advantage for some of us so seeing it disappeared would not be an advantage totally. Since the children of the brainwashed are also being brainwashed I can see this advantage continuing to my kids. I'd just like to thank all religious nut jobs from the bottom if my heart for your ignorance and uncompetitive views which are in part fuelling my success. Thank you and keep up the good work!

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#12652 Feb 8, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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I'm a humanist.
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My worldview is humanistic.
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You must be projecting.
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Besides Xanax?
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You're just now asking? You've been bashing it.
insidesecrets has no knowledge apparently of what either atheism or humanism is. Nor does he have an understanding of philosophies since he seems to think that you don't have one.

That makes it impossible (of very close to it) to carry on a discussion of such subjects. And it is even harder with someone like insidesecrets who refuses to learn.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#12653 Feb 9, 2013
NoLimitSoldier wrote:
And I just read what I posted and my grammar was horrible...may god strike my drunkass down!
Fat chance of that.

I've been mocking this "god" thing for years... and he/she/it still hasn't managed so much as a static shock...

LMAO!

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#12654 Feb 9, 2013
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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insidesecrets has no knowledge apparently of what either atheism or humanism is. Nor does he have an understanding of philosophies since he seems to think that you don't have one.
That makes it impossible (of very close to it) to carry on a discussion of such subjects. And it is even harder with someone like insidesecrets who refuses to learn.
Hey DS! How's the math going?

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#12655 Feb 9, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Hey DS! How's the math going?
Slow these days. Getting too old.

Have you made progress on your degree?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#12656 Feb 9, 2013
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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Slow these days. Getting too old.
Have you made progress on your degree?
The physics degree is on hold. I had one advisor die and another leave for the other side of the country. Nobody left is interested in astrphysics. Bleh.

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