Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24182 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#12493 Feb 6, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Great post!
Thank you.
Givemeliberty wrote:
Hey how about we don't tell them how to eat their Jew zombie flesh and gulp Jew zombie blood and they in turn leave science and secular humanism alone. Sounds fair to me.
LOL.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#12494 Feb 6, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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This explains the mechanisms involved in the process. It does not explain how enzymes "know" what to do.
Do you think that enzymes have some sort of consciousness? Seriously?

The enzymes know what to do in exactly the same way that hydrogen and oxygen 'know' how to combine to give water. if you take a mixture of hydrogen gas and oxygen gas and give it a spark, they will explosively combine to give water. How do they know how to do that? Simple: the individual hydrogen atoms are attracted to the oxygen atoms and the chemical bonds form with one oxygen bonding to two hydrogen. Why two and not three? Look up the term valency. It's a standard chemical concept.

In the same way, the arrangements of atoms in an enzyme will make it so that enzyme is more likely to interact with the molecules of the reaction it catalyzes. Then the conformation changes in both the enzyme and the target molecules drive that reaction. It is all based on chemical attraction, steric hindrance, and how to modify chemical bonds. No consciousness required.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#12495 Feb 6, 2013
BBSting wrote:
Don't kid yourself, Gomer. We're the masters of atrocities. We will rule the world and you're going to be the first one on our hit list. LOL!
Gomer is a biblical name, like Jethro.

So are Nimrod, Dorcus, Jehu (YAY-hoo) and Dodo.

Some more of my faves are Zedediah, Hezekiah, Zechariah, Zedekiah, Jedediah, Zachariah, and Zephaniah.

BTW, your religion is failing you.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#12496 Feb 6, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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That would depend on what you consider reason.
By your own admission, faith is not based on reason. That makes it unreasonable, by definition. Second, you admitted that to expect evidence of a supernatural is unreasonable. I point out that it is unreasonable to believe without evidence, so belief in a supernatural is unreasonable.

This seems very straightforward to me.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#12497 Feb 6, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
Science will forever escape opening up into any great vision of the meaning of life.
You are right. The 'meaning of life' is not a scientific question. It is a personal question: what do *you* want the meaning of *your* life to be? You get to decide.
As a group, scientists rigorously oppose the existence of telepathy or clairvoyance, or any philosophy that brings these into focus.
Not at all. In fact, we are finding ways to read people's minds right now. This is helping to allow severely paralyzed people to communicate. The mind is a physical process in the brain. We can pick up the EM signals from that process and are now learning how to interpret them to understand the thoughts involved. it is very exciting, but also a bit scary.

Oh, wait, you meant the telepathy where one person reads the mind of another without technological intervention. Well, it is possible with cold reading and if you know someone well, you can often follow their pattern of thought, thereby 'reading their mind'. But beyond that, we have the little problem of evidence again. Small statistical fluctuations do not make evidence of a 'paranormal'. Let's adopt the standard of particle physics: a signal requires five standard deviations from the 'norm' to be accepted. This has never been the case in studies of telepathy, clairvoyance, or any other parapsychological effects.

Until there is solid evidence, it is reasonable to doubt the effects, especially since those effects have been widely searched for and not found.
Only lately, have some begun to think in terms of mind over matter, and even such a possibility disturbs them profoundly, because it shatters the foundations of their scientific stance. But, like the Popes, they are coming along slowly but surely.
What do you mean, mind over matter? As in the mind being a part of healing the body? Yes, of course it is. The mind is a process in the brain and the brain interacts with many different systems in the body including the immune system. Why do you think placebos work at all?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#12498 Feb 6, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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I just saw this in an article entitled "Intelligent design bill in Missouri" dated January 12th, 2012:
"House Bill 1227, introduced in the Missouri House of Representatives on January 10, 2012, would, if enacted, require "the equal treatment of science instruction regarding evolution and intelligent design," according to the legislature's summary of the bill."
http://ncse.com/news/2012/01/intelligent-desi...
Those people are already far enough behind.
There are other bills in Montana and Oklahoma. The Colorado bill just died in committee.

http://rt.com/usa/news/us-creationism-bill-ed...
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013...
Thinking

Uckfield, UK

#12499 Feb 6, 2013
I was talking about your leg, not my appendage!
River Tam wrote:
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I'm a lesbian with a mean streak. I've seen many naked men. Most of them exaggerate.
I have a wallet collection.
Thinking

Uckfield, UK

#12500 Feb 6, 2013
Booz of Rachab is my personal favourite.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_1:5
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Gomer is a biblical name, like Jethro.
So are Nimrod, Dorcus, Jehu (YAY-hoo) and Dodo.
Some more of my faves are Zedediah, Hezekiah, Zechariah, Zedekiah, Jedediah, Zachariah, and Zephaniah.
BTW, your religion is failing you.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#12501 Feb 6, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Hi Muq,

Another news story of interest for you.
Saudi preacher who 'raped and tortured' his five -year-old daughter to death is released after paying 'blood money'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middl...

Rather than getting the death penalty or receiving a long prison sentence for the crime, Fayhan al-Ghamdi served only a few months in jail before a judge ruled the prosecution could only seek ‘blood money’.

I know you will say this is nothing to do with Islam. But you need to start waking up to the insanity of religion. This sort of thing happens too often.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#12502 Feb 6, 2013
madscot wrote:
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A judge blocked one of those bills here last year. Texas even blocked one as well. When will these idiots stop this crap?
When they become ashamed to even suggest such legislation, or admit aloud that they believe in creationism, i.e., when Christians are closeted.

We don't have to use fear or moral outrage like the Christians did to us. We can do it with just contempt and ridicule. Let them be unheard and disrespected as we were, but not scapegoated or demonized.

Then they'll stop.

And what right do we have to do that? They're trying to damage the nation, whether in the science classes, the gynecologist's office, the pharmacy, or anywhere else. That gives every secular American just cause to denounce them.
Thinking

Uckfield, UK

#12503 Feb 6, 2013
It's so hard to be a good muslima these days...

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/...
Adam wrote:
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Hi Muq,
Another news story of interest for you.
Saudi preacher who 'raped and tortured' his five -year-old daughter to death is released after paying 'blood money'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middl...
Rather than getting the death penalty or receiving a long prison sentence for the crime, Fayhan al-Ghamdi served only a few months in jail before a judge ruled the prosecution could only seek ‘blood money’.
I know you will say this is nothing to do with Islam. But you need to start waking up to the insanity of religion. This sort of thing happens too often.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#12504 Feb 6, 2013
madscot wrote:
I heard about that idiot. I think Tennesse just surpassed Oklahoma in the stupid race.
Connected by Missouri.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#12505 Feb 6, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Interesting that "insidesecrets" starting posting in what I assume they thought would appear a reasoned manner, trying to cast doubt on scientific practices and the like.
Now they've degenerated into the usual believer babble.
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Did you see this?
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#12506 Feb 6, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
When they become ashamed to even suggest such legislation, or admit aloud that they believe in creationism, i.e., when Christians are closeted.
We don't have to use fear or moral outrage like the Christians did to us. We can do it with just contempt and ridicule. Let them be unheard and disrespected as we were, but not scapegoated or demonized.
Then they'll stop.
And what right do we have to do that? They're trying to damage the nation, whether in the science classes, the gynecologist's office, the pharmacy, or anywhere else. That gives every secular American just cause to denounce them.
As a militant atheist, I'm doing my part.

sickofit

Hayfield, MN

#12507 Feb 6, 2013
Only insane mental midgets still beleive and follow any religion. Us sane educated people dont follow religion and its hate filled racist bigoted ways.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#12508 Feb 6, 2013
Thinking wrote:
It's so hard to be a good muslima these days...
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/...
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What I find unbelievable is why any european woman would want to marry into that (shakes head). I really think they dont know what they are letting themselves into.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#12509 Feb 6, 2013
sickofit wrote:
Only insane mental midgets still beleive and follow any religion. Us sane educated people dont follow religion and its hate filled racist bigoted ways.
Upbringing has a lot to do with. Childhood indoctrination is very powerful way to spread religion.
Brit Expat

Clapiers, France

#12510 Feb 6, 2013
Adam wrote:
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What I find unbelievable is why any european woman would want to marry into that (shakes head). I really think they dont know what they are letting themselves into.
Hmmmm, Stupid girls as thick as two short planks could explain it!

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#12511 Feb 6, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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To learn. To learn about the dangers of the Roman Catholic church and organized religion.
"Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House of God" Documentary Blames Vatican For Poor Handling Of Catholic Sexual Abuse Case
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/16/mea-...
Oh, sure! People who want to learn about it read books. People who want watch it are voyeuristic perverts, ya scumbag!

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#12512 Feb 6, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
There are other bills in Montana and Oklahoma. The Colorado bill just died in committee.
http://rt.com/usa/news/us-creationism-bill-ed...
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013...
Thanks. I just forwarded the first link to our local freethinkers group - about seventy strong now and not yet a year old. They were the ones who alerted mt to the Missouri legislation.

Networking.

The Internet has facilitated that by an order of magnitude. Mrs. Aint likes to put this stuff on Facebook. We saw the Sam Harris stuff being shared here, and the Mea Maxima Culpa stuff.

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