Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Apr 25, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Psychology Today

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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I am afraid of the fact that every time the Christians get into power, they decide that those who disagree with them deserve to die.
Your paranoia shows the ways in which private beliefs can distort actual events. The Catholic Church hasn't held political power since the Dark Ages. While the paranoid is convinced that his distorted view is valid, this does not change other people's perception of the same happening.

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Our very laws, ethics and altruistic ideals are loosely centered around the Ten Commmandments.
“The Ten Commandments fit the United States like $10 shoes, from the first, where we install the "almighty" dollar as an idol, to the last, when we rely on covetousness to turn the wheels of commerce. We keep the Sabbath holy by shopping for bargains and allow and excuse false witness for advertising and political spin. We have been casual about killing for a nation that believes in "Thou shall not kill." And as for adultery, we apparently couldn't have a Congress without it. Beyond all that, we revere the Ten Commandments to shreds.” Tom Blackburn
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Science will forever escape opening up into any great vision of the meaning of life. As a group, scientists rigorously oppose the existence of telepathy or clairvoyance, or any philosophy that brings these into focus. Only lately, have some begun to think in terms of mind over matter, and even such a possibility disturbs them profoundly, because it shatters the foundations of their scientific stance. But, like the Popes, they are coming along slowly but surely.

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Spirituality will never fade away.
I hope not. I just want your church to fade away.
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When you can stop obsessing on religion to the point of fear, your intolerance will dissappear.
Thanks for the heads up. Watch for your church's social clout to disappear before our efforts to reduce it do.
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You can make your preference known without contempt, rudeness and disrespect.
Or, I can express my contempt and disrespect anyway. Why shouldn't I? What respect has your church ever shown for me, an atheist? Your church deserves no respect because it offers none.
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There is room enough for every sail (including Christianity) out on the intellectual sea.
See if you can stay afloat.
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Every theology and philosophy contains wisdom.
Nonsense about theology. It is kin to astrology and phrenology.

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To deny the Christian a voice because of your own personal bias is to be a bigot.
Here's what I call bigotry:

[1] "The fool says in his heart,'There is no God.' They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good" - Psalm 14:1

[2] "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." - Revelation 21:8 And the result of such hate speech is predictable:

[3]“No, I don’t know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God.”– George H. W. Bush

[4]“Settle it therefore in your minds, as a maxim never to be effaced or forgotten, that atheism is an inhuman, bloody, ferocious system, equally hostile to every useful restraint and to every virtuous affection; that, leaving nothing above us to excite awe, nor round us to awaken tenderness, it wages war with heaven and with earth: its first object is to dethrone God, its next to destroy man.”- Rev. Robert Hall

Sorry, but your church deserves all of the contempt that can be heaped upon it for that. I intend to use similar language regarding your vile abomination of a church wherever possible.

Your church is the moral equivalent of whoremongers and murderers. It should be cast into a lake of fire.

I don't see where your church should even be considered patriotic. It continually tries to undermine the secularist underpinnings of the US Constitution. It is contemptuous of church-state separation.
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Beofre you proceed any further, you should probably know that secularists don't accept scientific opinions from theists - just from the consensus of experts in good standing in the relevant scientific fields. If the experts say that the theory of evolution is sound and valid science, then the issue is settled until and unless they say otherwise. You and your church have no vote.
If a scientist told you to leap off the nearest cliff to adjust a chemical imbalance, would you do it?
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<quoted text>But don't go feeling picked on! It's not just theists that the scientists ignore. If rodeo clowns were to say that "scientific peer review [is] ultimately tilted towards positive results," nobody would bat an eye at that, right? So why should it be different when you theists say it? It shouldn't.
Likewise, if a consortium of crack whores were to publish a position paper saying, "researchers engage in significance chasing," nobody would care about that, either - right? Can you see why that makes sense? It's not just you.
Likewise, nobody cares what NAMBLA, Domino's Pizza, or the NFL have to say about evolution, either. Not a one of them has a say or gets a vote on what constitutes good science. So please don't feel discriminated against.
If it comforts you to know, my lay opinion doesn't matter to the experts either, even though I happen to agree with them.
So where do you think that the opinions of theists rank relative to those of the clowns, whores and pedophiles? Not surprisingly, it's beneath all of them. Why?
Whereas crack whores and rodeo clowns are merely unqualified to contradict the experts, the theists actually have an agenda to subvert science, which places their opinions just a tad lower.
You have zero standing in the Great Conversation.
There is no great conversation among atheists. There are only those who refuse to examine what they believe preferring to project their fear of religion in general on Christians specifically. But then, cults deal with fear primarily using it as a stimulus to incite its members to pursue a common goal.

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With climate change gathering momentum, nuclear destruction is the least of mankind's worries.
What effect do you suppose that people like you who continually undermine confidence in science and scientists to defend your mythology have on people's willingness to treat the threat of global climate change as credible?
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It continually tries to undermine the secularist underpinnings of the US Constitution. It is contemptuous of church-state separation.
There is no separation of church and state. It is nowhere mentioned in the Constitution. It is a figment of secular imagination. Examples of "God" in U.S. government:

"The Chaplain of the United States Senate opens each session of the United States Senate with a prayer, and provides and coordinates religious programs and pastoral care support for Senators, their staffs, and their families." There is also a House Chaplain. Both House and Senate Chaplains have staff and receive a salary from the government. The Senate chaplain receives $155,500.00 (2011). The total annual budget for the office, including salaries and expenses, is $415,000 (2011).

"Along with the House Chaplain, the Senate Chaplain is responsible for overseeing the Capitol Prayer Room, located near the Capitol Rotunda. Dedicated in 1955, there are no worship services held in the room, nor is it normally open to the public. Instead, as described by Sam Rayburn during the room's dedication, it is a place for members "who want to be alone with their God."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaplain_of_the_...

Bibles are used in Presidential Inaugural ceremonies. The oath of office ends with the words, "So help me God." They are also used in courts of law.

A law passed by the 84th Congress on July 30, 1956 declared In God We Trust to be the national motto of the United States. The words, "In God We Trust" can be found on all U.S. currency.

The Pledge of Allegiance includes the words, "One nation under God."

The U.S. National Anthem includes the words, "Then conquer we must, when our cause is just, And this be our motto: "In God is our trust"

The Supreme Court has its very own Ten Commandment display: Hebrew-inscribed tablets held by Moses, one of a series of historical figures who look down from the ceiling on the justices.

In the Washington Monument, the Jefferson Memorial, the Lincoln Memorial, the Library of Congress etc., there are numerous acknowlegments of God and Bible verses carved on memorial blocks in the walls.
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Reasoning can be wrong,and reach false conclusions. 10 people using reasoning can come to different conclusions, some reach false conclusiosn,some correct. Reasoning ability varies in humans, but the sun still shines in the sky, ahs since the day you were born and will still be shining after the day you die.
show us your reasons for that lol
Intelligent Design.
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<quoted text>Think about it. It was science that released the findings to the news media.
They are called whistle blowers. Had someone not blown the whistle in this instance, the hoax would have been filed away with other nefarious scientific practices the public is unaware of.

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If you can have reason without faith, you can have faith without reason.
Not only can you have it, but faith is always without reason: in other words, it is unreasonable.

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Your paranoia shows the ways in which private beliefs can distort actual events. The Catholic Church hasn't held political power since the Dark Ages. While the paranoid is convinced that his distorted view is valid, this does not change other people's perception of the same happening.
But other religious movements have had political power since the Catholic Church did. Calvin had political power in Geneva. The Puritans had political power in Massachusetts (not to mention their political power under Cromwell). The Catholic Church had censorship power over movies in the USA for a long time. And that's not to mention blue laws in a secular society.

So yes, we have managed to keep religion from holding exclusive political power for a while, but even the much smaller extent to which it has had power since then has shown it to be consistently against any real moral progress, and also against much scientific progress. In general, the less religion (and other forms of non-thinking acceptance of dogma) influence society, the better that society is.
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What effect do you suppose that people like you who continually undermine confidence in science and scientists to defend your mythology have on people's willingness to treat the threat of global climate change as credible?
I realize you have a propensity to react with knee jerk responses...laying the blame for everything at the feet of Christians, but scientists are at fault. Hardly articulate communicators, they have failed dismally to convey the severity of climate change to the world at large.

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An eye for an eye. The more you comment, the more Christian-like you seem. In many ways orthodox religion and science are similar. Both loudly proclaim their search for truth. Both treat their beliefs as truth, with which no one should tamper. They each have their own vocabulary which is used to enforce their "exclusive" organizations. They both claim to have the way to truth...science by studying the objective world as if were mere objects without intrinsic values. This is where they part ways. Science, in stating that the universe is an accidental creation, a meaningless happenstance clearly conveys a belief that the universe and man's existence has no value...a belief that separates man from his own mystical nature...for who can rely upon the accidental bubblings of hormones and chemicals that somehow form a stew called consciousness? All that remains is what pleasure or accomplishment can somehow be wrested from man's individual biological processes.
Blah blah blah...

You really should cite the sources of your posts if they aren't your creation.... not that I ever expect honesty from a lying godbot though.

Do you really believe those arguing against you are as stupid as you choose to be? Really??

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Oddly enough, your interpretation of the Bible is far more literal than a Christian.
How can he supposed "inerrant word of god" be taken as anything BUT literal??

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If you can have reason without faith, you can have faith without reason.
Yeah.... it's called "delusion"
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Not only can you have it, but faith is always without reason: in other words, it is unreasonable.
That would depend on what you consider reason.

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They are called whistle blowers. Had someone not blown the whistle in this instance, the hoax would have been filed away with other nefarious scientific practices the public is unaware of.
No, the person who committed the fraud was found by the scientific community. It wasn't a whistleblower that brought this to the attention of the press, but those in the scientific community attempting to correct things. It was not one lone scientist against the crowd. It was the majority of scientists in the area. Furthermore, the effects of the fraud were already in decline because the facts discovered by other working scientists were in contradiction to the claims of the fraud.

What other 'nefarious' practice do you think science embraces? From what I have seen, it is more than willing to air its dirty laundry in search of the truth.

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Reasoning can be wrong,and reach false conclusions. 10 people using reasoning can come to different conclusions, some reach false conclusiosn,some correct. Reasoning ability varies in humans, but the sun still shines in the sky, ahs since the day you were born and will still be shining after the day you die.
show us your reasons for that lol
Once again, that is why scientific ideas have to be publicly testable. That allows us to eliminate 9 of the 10 conclusions (sometimes all 10-meaning we have to start over and re-think everything again).

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Science will forever escape opening up into any great vision of the meaning of life. As a group, scientists rigorously oppose the existence of telepathy or clairvoyance, or any philosophy that brings these into focus. Only lately, have some begun to think in terms of mind over matter, and even such a possibility disturbs them profoundly, because it shatters the foundations of their scientific stance. But, like the Popes, they are coming along slowly but surely.
Again... not an orginal thougt in your body.

So, isn't Plagerism stealing? Or is it like lying and perfectly acceptable if your doing it for your 'god'?

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