Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Apr 25, 2012 Full story: Psychology Today 23,268

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#12401 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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With climate change gathering momentum, nuclear destruction is the least of mankind's worries.
What effect do you suppose that people like you who continually undermine confidence in science and scientists to defend your mythology have on people's willingness to treat the threat of global climate change as credible?
insidesecrets

Albuquerque, NM

#12402 Feb 5, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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It continually tries to undermine the secularist underpinnings of the US Constitution. It is contemptuous of church-state separation.
There is no separation of church and state. It is nowhere mentioned in the Constitution. It is a figment of secular imagination. Examples of "God" in U.S. government:

"The Chaplain of the United States Senate opens each session of the United States Senate with a prayer, and provides and coordinates religious programs and pastoral care support for Senators, their staffs, and their families." There is also a House Chaplain. Both House and Senate Chaplains have staff and receive a salary from the government. The Senate chaplain receives $155,500.00 (2011). The total annual budget for the office, including salaries and expenses, is $415,000 (2011).

"Along with the House Chaplain, the Senate Chaplain is responsible for overseeing the Capitol Prayer Room, located near the Capitol Rotunda. Dedicated in 1955, there are no worship services held in the room, nor is it normally open to the public. Instead, as described by Sam Rayburn during the room's dedication, it is a place for members "who want to be alone with their God."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaplain_of_the_...

Bibles are used in Presidential Inaugural ceremonies. The oath of office ends with the words, "So help me God." They are also used in courts of law.

A law passed by the 84th Congress on July 30, 1956 declared In God We Trust to be the national motto of the United States. The words, "In God We Trust" can be found on all U.S. currency.

The Pledge of Allegiance includes the words, "One nation under God."

The U.S. National Anthem includes the words, "Then conquer we must, when our cause is just, And this be our motto: "In God is our trust"

The Supreme Court has its very own Ten Commandment display: Hebrew-inscribed tablets held by Moses, one of a series of historical figures who look down from the ceiling on the justices.

In the Washington Monument, the Jefferson Memorial, the Lincoln Memorial, the Library of Congress etc., there are numerous acknowlegments of God and Bible verses carved on memorial blocks in the walls.
insidesecrets

Albuquerque, NM

#12403 Feb 5, 2013
brent wrote:
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Reasoning can be wrong,and reach false conclusions. 10 people using reasoning can come to different conclusions, some reach false conclusiosn,some correct. Reasoning ability varies in humans, but the sun still shines in the sky, ahs since the day you were born and will still be shining after the day you die.
show us your reasons for that lol
Intelligent Design.
insidesecrets

Albuquerque, NM

#12404 Feb 5, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Think about it. It was science that released the findings to the news media.
They are called whistle blowers. Had someone not blown the whistle in this instance, the hoax would have been filed away with other nefarious scientific practices the public is unaware of.

“Think&Care”

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#12405 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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If you can have reason without faith, you can have faith without reason.
Not only can you have it, but faith is always without reason: in other words, it is unreasonable.

“Think&Care”

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#12406 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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Your paranoia shows the ways in which private beliefs can distort actual events. The Catholic Church hasn't held political power since the Dark Ages. While the paranoid is convinced that his distorted view is valid, this does not change other people's perception of the same happening.
But other religious movements have had political power since the Catholic Church did. Calvin had political power in Geneva. The Puritans had political power in Massachusetts (not to mention their political power under Cromwell). The Catholic Church had censorship power over movies in the USA for a long time. And that's not to mention blue laws in a secular society.

So yes, we have managed to keep religion from holding exclusive political power for a while, but even the much smaller extent to which it has had power since then has shown it to be consistently against any real moral progress, and also against much scientific progress. In general, the less religion (and other forms of non-thinking acceptance of dogma) influence society, the better that society is.
insidesecrets

Albuquerque, NM

#12407 Feb 5, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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What effect do you suppose that people like you who continually undermine confidence in science and scientists to defend your mythology have on people's willingness to treat the threat of global climate change as credible?
I realize you have a propensity to react with knee jerk responses...laying the blame for everything at the feet of Christians, but scientists are at fault. Hardly articulate communicators, they have failed dismally to convey the severity of climate change to the world at large.

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#12408 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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An eye for an eye. The more you comment, the more Christian-like you seem. In many ways orthodox religion and science are similar. Both loudly proclaim their search for truth. Both treat their beliefs as truth, with which no one should tamper. They each have their own vocabulary which is used to enforce their "exclusive" organizations. They both claim to have the way to truth...science by studying the objective world as if were mere objects without intrinsic values. This is where they part ways. Science, in stating that the universe is an accidental creation, a meaningless happenstance clearly conveys a belief that the universe and man's existence has no value...a belief that separates man from his own mystical nature...for who can rely upon the accidental bubblings of hormones and chemicals that somehow form a stew called consciousness? All that remains is what pleasure or accomplishment can somehow be wrested from man's individual biological processes.
Blah blah blah...

You really should cite the sources of your posts if they aren't your creation.... not that I ever expect honesty from a lying godbot though.

Do you really believe those arguing against you are as stupid as you choose to be? Really??

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#12409 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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Oddly enough, your interpretation of the Bible is far more literal than a Christian.
How can he supposed "inerrant word of god" be taken as anything BUT literal??

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#12410 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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If you can have reason without faith, you can have faith without reason.
Yeah.... it's called "delusion"
insidesecrets

Albuquerque, NM

#12411 Feb 5, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Not only can you have it, but faith is always without reason: in other words, it is unreasonable.
That would depend on what you consider reason.

“Think&Care”

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#12412 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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They are called whistle blowers. Had someone not blown the whistle in this instance, the hoax would have been filed away with other nefarious scientific practices the public is unaware of.
No, the person who committed the fraud was found by the scientific community. It wasn't a whistleblower that brought this to the attention of the press, but those in the scientific community attempting to correct things. It was not one lone scientist against the crowd. It was the majority of scientists in the area. Furthermore, the effects of the fraud were already in decline because the facts discovered by other working scientists were in contradiction to the claims of the fraud.

What other 'nefarious' practice do you think science embraces? From what I have seen, it is more than willing to air its dirty laundry in search of the truth.

“Think&Care”

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#12413 Feb 5, 2013
brent wrote:
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Reasoning can be wrong,and reach false conclusions. 10 people using reasoning can come to different conclusions, some reach false conclusiosn,some correct. Reasoning ability varies in humans, but the sun still shines in the sky, ahs since the day you were born and will still be shining after the day you die.
show us your reasons for that lol
Once again, that is why scientific ideas have to be publicly testable. That allows us to eliminate 9 of the 10 conclusions (sometimes all 10-meaning we have to start over and re-think everything again).

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#12414 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
Science will forever escape opening up into any great vision of the meaning of life. As a group, scientists rigorously oppose the existence of telepathy or clairvoyance, or any philosophy that brings these into focus. Only lately, have some begun to think in terms of mind over matter, and even such a possibility disturbs them profoundly, because it shatters the foundations of their scientific stance. But, like the Popes, they are coming along slowly but surely.
Again... not an orginal thougt in your body.

So, isn't Plagerism stealing? Or is it like lying and perfectly acceptable if your doing it for your 'god'?

“Think&Care”

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#12415 Feb 5, 2013
brent wrote:
Reasoning ability varies in humans, but the sun still shines in the sky, ahs since the day you were born and will still be shining after the day you die.
show us your reasons for that lol
Sure. Stars of the mass of the sun tend to be in the main sequence for several billion years. Our sun is in the middle of its time in the main sequence, so will be shining for a couple billion more years. After that, it will become a red giant and bake the earth, but it will still be shining. Fusion reactions for a mass the size of the sun last a long time.

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#12416 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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They are called whistle blowers. Had someone not blown the whistle in this instance, the hoax would have been filed away with other nefarious scientific practices the public is unaware of.
Wow... you really are an idiot

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Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#12417 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
There is no separation of church and state. It is nowhere mentioned in the Constitution. It is a figment of secular imagination.
It's called ESTABLISMENT. The first ammendment iniates "A wall of seperation".

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#12418 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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They are called whistle blowers. Had someone not blown the whistle in this instance, the hoax would have been filed away with other nefarious scientific practices the public is unaware of.
http://bigrab.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/tin...

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#12419 Feb 5, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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But other religious movements have had political power since the Catholic Church did. Calvin had political power in Geneva. The Puritans had political power in Massachusetts (not to mention their political power under Cromwell). The Catholic Church had censorship power over movies in the USA for a long time. And that's not to mention blue laws in a secular society.
So yes, we have managed to keep religion from holding exclusive political power for a while, but even the much smaller extent to which it has had power since then has shown it to be consistently against any real moral progress, and also against much scientific progress. In general, the less religion (and other forms of non-thinking acceptance of dogma) influence society, the better that society is.
Hey Poly, I watched Mea Culpa Maxima on HBO. I highly suggest it.

It's a documentary about the priest pedophiles.
insidesecrets

Albuquerque, NM

#12420 Feb 5, 2013
madscot wrote:
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Hey Poly, I watched Mea Culpa Maxima on HBO. I highly suggest it.
It's a documentary about the priest pedophiles.
Why would anyone watch a movie about pedophilia?

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