Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

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My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#12358 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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I'll start:
Thou shalt not kill
Thou shalt not steal
That's 2, neither of which originated with Abrahamic legal thought, so there is no reason to claim that these laws are founded on them.

You've got 8 more and, if you really expect people to believe that our legal system is based on the 10-Cs, you need to show that at least 50% of these commandments are in fact laws on our books and that they originated with Abrahamic legal thought.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#12359 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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Has it happened yet? Until it does, you have no legitimate gripe.
Yes ... Repeatedly ... For years ... still being attempted.
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#12360 Feb 5, 2013
Why don't you start with the BS commandments? Take them in order.
insidesecrets wrote:
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I'll start:
Thou shalt not kill
Thou shalt not steal

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#12361 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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Has it happened yet? Until it does, you have no legitimate gripe.
Every year the nut-job republicans, in various state assemblies, introduce bills in an attempt to force the teaching of unsupportable myth (creationism/intelligent design) as science to unsuspecting public school students. The fact that those bills are normally shot down before going very far, doesn't offset the fact that they are introduced in the first place! One would think that being shot down over and over and over again that the idiots would get a clue and stop wasting tax payer monies trying to push their religious agendas on people that don't want it!!

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#12362 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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Then live and let live.
I'll "live and let live" the day christians start to do the same.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#12363 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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Did I say that? I said, had the hoax not been exposed via newspaper articles, the public would not have known about it.
Er..not quite.

The scientists figured out it was a hoax and announced their findings.

The papers just published what they were told. They exposed nothing.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#12364 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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I'll start:
Thou shalt not kill
Thou shalt not steal
What about "Honour they father and mother"?

Is that an absolute rule?

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#12365 Feb 5, 2013
rio wrote:
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See, atheists form communities, gather in places, collect money, just like churches.
I wonder if they pay taxes on the funds collected.
I wonder if they also pay royalties on the pop music they sing too...
It that catches on, it won't be long before they pay guest speakers at their meetings, create a hierarchy, invest in properties, and claim tax exemption, just like churches.
It's kind of interesting that this small group of atheists have decided to follow a church model, but most atheists do not. See "fallacy of composition": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_compo...

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#12366 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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How can there be physical evidence for that which is non-physical? To expect it is not only irrational but ludicrous.
Expecting others to accept assertions without evidence is even more ludicrous.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#12367 Feb 5, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Scientific theories are based on the observable facts and are tested using such facts. I realize they are 'best effort' results which can be replaced if new evidence is found.
I see theories as conceptual frameworks for correlating known facts. The way that fossils are layered, for instance, showed earlier biologists the order in which species appeared and approximately how long they endured. They observed that as species died out, they were often succeeded by similar species that had adapted in some way, giving rise to the ToE, which has since been confirmed and expanded as new data became available and new technologies allowed for more detailed analysis.

So of course theories aren't facts--they aren't meant to be. Theories are meant to explain facts, not supplant them. It is through theory that science advances, right?

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#12368 Feb 5, 2013
Brit Expat wrote:
Worth watching. Religion in action. You wont find this on the BBC or FOXCRAP.
http://www.aljazeera.com/video/europe/2013/02...
There was a pretty good movie about this in 2002: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0318411/

You can see some of it on youtube:

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#12369 Feb 5, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Yes, I know. If it were, there would probably be Supreme Court cases adjuducating on teaching it in the public schools.
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I am not attempting to make atheism shine. I just want your church to fade from view.
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I have no hatred - just contempt. And I will not tolerate your church poking its nose into my life if I don't have to.
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Thanks for the tips, but I doubt you know what I want.
I'm not interested in promoting atheism, just opposing the Christian church. I consider it a victory not when a person converts to atheism, but when they repudiate your church, and stop allowing it to determine who they hate and how they'll vote.
That is why "irreligious " and "none of the above" is a much more important number than the fraction using the words "atheist, " "agnostic, " "freethinker, " "humanist, " and "skeptic. "
You can be Buddhist, Jainist, Taoist or Bahai, and I'm cool with that, because you won't be underwriting or carrying water for Christian atheophobia, homophobia, sexual guilt, antiscientism, the demeaning of mankind, or any of the other gifts that your church has given us.
So many more nones than Nuns in the world. Good thing.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#12370 Feb 5, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
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And? Just because I believe in Jesus doesn't mean I can't also see the common sense in evolution? Again, labels schmabels.
With faith, all things are possible, even mutually contradictory things.

If evolution is correct, the Christian bible is not.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#12371 Feb 5, 2013
If only you Christholes would do that instead of vilifying everyone who doesn't accept your Jesus myth as real.
insidesecrets wrote:
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Then live and let live.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#12372 Feb 5, 2013
BBSting wrote:
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Baloney!
"Dr Barrett claimed anthropologists have found that in some cultures children believe in God even when religious teachings are withheld from them."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/3512...
That should make you proud - still doing the same magical thinking that a young child does. Children also believe that when they cover their faces, you can't see them.

"The church doesn't like for people to grow up, because you can't control grown-ups. That's why we talk about being born again. When you're 'born again' you're still a child. People don't need to be born again, they need to grow up." - Bishop John Shelby Spong

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#12373 Feb 5, 2013
Tom Jones wrote:
Science is broken.
It's undermining your mythology.

Because your church has cast itself in the role of the alternative to science, every scientific achievement is perceived as a setback for religion.

How about that Higgs boson? How about a standing for scientific prophecy and the scientist at CERN who found that it exactly where it was prophesied! And not in terns of vague riddles, either - like Psalms, Isaiah, Nostradamus, Chinese fortune cookies, horoscopes and the Magic 8-Ball. Specific energies.

The prophets of science told us EXACTLY where to look and EXACTLY what we would find there, something never seen before. The physicists said, "Look at this very high energy, and if we're right about reality, you'll find Higgs." And lo and behold, it was. There is absolutely nothing in your bible even remotely resembling that.

Science is broken? Hardly. Our magic is greater than your god.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#12374 Feb 5, 2013
rio wrote:
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You must be the most stupid jerk onm this thread.
TAX Exempted means that a charity is self supporting, but doesn't pay taxes on its income (fund raising, donations, etc...).
TAX Supported means that a charity receives money from the state.
In the first case, it doesn't receive public money
In the second case, it does!
Since churches are NON-PROFIT organisations, they are TAX-EXEMPTED. A church isn't a business, nor does it exist to make money out of its operations. At least not in UK. It just exists to fullfil its pastoral duty.
Only a complete moron can't understand that!
If the churches keep more in taxes not paid than they spend on matters of values to the taxpayers, then they are a burden on the taxpayers. In America, this is estimated to be in excess of 71 billion dollars a year. I'm pretty sure that the churches don't spend nearly that on matters of interest to the general public, and I sure wouldn't take their word for it.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#12375 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
You are not following the conversation. If the scientific method is becoming more and more unreliable, the facts it produces are likewise unreliable.
"You stare into your high definition plasma screen monitor, type into your cordless keyboard then hit enter which causes your computer to convert all that visual data into a binary signal that’s processed by millions of precise circuits, which is then converted to a frequency modulated signal to reach you wireless router where it is then converted to light waves and sent along a large fiber optics cable to be processed by a super computer on a mass server which then sends that bit you typed to a satellite orbiting the earth that was put there through the greatest feats of engineering and science, all so it could go back through a similar pathway to make it all the way here to my computer monitor 15,000 miles away from you just so you could say,“Science is all a bunch of man made hogwash.”- anon.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#12376 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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You are a walking encyclopedia of disinformation. It was "questioning" that created schisms in the Roman Catholic Church and resulted in the formation of Protestant denominations.
The rest of your post doesn't warrant comment.
And every time that religion is questioned by believers, another denomination is born. We have over 38,000 of them in America now. Science has only the one.

"Explain why there are several hundred thousand gods accepted by different religious people, but only one periodic table accepted by different scientists" – anon

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#12377 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
An accident is anything that happens by chance.
Nope.

Accident - an unforeseen and unplanned event or circumstance, lack of intention or necessity.

The appearance of life may have been inevitable even if there was nobody to foresee it or plan it. Two asteroids are colliding somewhere right now - unforeseen and inevitable, but not by chance.
insidesecrets wrote:
What is called supernatural is divine thought, which exists within and behind all of creation.
Poltergeists are called supernatural.

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