Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24182 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#12349 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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And how has the so called wild imaginings of the religious hurt science, or you for that matter?
Dark ages. Over 100 years of fighting against heliocentricity. Over 150 years of fighting against biological evolution. Fighting stem cell research. Fighting global climate change. etc.

"It is now quite lawful for a Catholic woman to avoid pregnancy by a resort to mathematics, though she is still forbidden to resort to physics and chemistry." (H.L. Mencken)

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#12350 Feb 5, 2013
So those scientists are looking in their microscopes and saying hmmm... Red blood cells, white blood cells, leukocytes, god stuff, stem cells... Oh wait delete that about about god stuff!

So what is the god stuff levels in our blood? What is the proper range of god stuff?

Lmfao!
insidesecrets wrote:
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They do. They just don't recognize what they see as Intelligent Deisign.
insidesecrets

Santa Fe, NM

#12351 Feb 5, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Wasn't he supposed to return during the life of his apostles??
My fears?
Spiders... but only the one I see above my head because they are more difficult to stomp!
Young children whose heads are about crotch height
and, as I have gotten older, heights as I tend to get vertigo now that I didn't have in my youth.
I'm not deathly afraid of any of them though.
Then live and let live.
insidesecrets

Santa Fe, NM

#12352 Feb 5, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>BY TRYING TO REQUIRE THE TEACHING OF THAT WILD IMAGININGS CRAP TO PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENS AS SCIENCE!!
Has it happened yet? Until it does, you have no legitimate gripe.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#12353 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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And how has the so called wild imaginings of the religious hurt science, or you for that matter?
First, by convincing people they should change laws to abide by their superstitions.

Second, by affecting the types of experiments scientists can perform and the financing they get from the government.

Third, by degrading the overall education about science.

Fourth, by shaping the young into believing myths rather than promoting skepticism.

Fifth, by lowering the overall reasoning ability of the voters in a democratic society.

Sixth, by promoting family arguments over superstitious nonsense.

Seventh, by making the lives of non-believers more complicated because they have to 'respect' the superstitious beliefs of others, including family and friends.

Eighth, by denigrating those who have learned to think for themselves.

I am sure there are many, many more ways, but this is off the top of my head.
insidesecrets

Santa Fe, NM

#12354 Feb 5, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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And yet the first Old Testament Commandment is in direct opposition to the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment. So in spite of Justice Rehnquist far-right position, the reality does not support this proposition.
Shall we discuss each of these supposed 10 great commandments and see which ones are actually part of the U.S. legal system and which ones actually existed outside of the Abrahamic traditions? Possibly in ancient examples such as Hammurabi's Code?
(Did you know that there are more than 10 Commandments in Exodus and that it was the 10 Covenants that were written in stone and kept in the Ark of the Covenant, and not the Commandments? No, of course you didn't know that, nor will you now go check. That's an example of cognitive dissonance at it's finest.)
I'll start:

Thou shalt not kill

Thou shalt not steal

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#12355 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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As mentioned earlier, the DNA strand. What specifically tells enzymes to do what they do?
Different enzymes work by different mechanisms. Any modern biochemistry book will supply many details of the processes. If you want to pick out a particular enzyme of interest, I may be able to search for the specific mechanism. ALL of the mechanisms are based in the specifics of the chemical elements involved. For example, if an enzyme catalyzes a particular reaction (say cutting a protein at a specific location), the action of the enzyme is usually based on stabilizing the transition phase of the reaction. This is done through the different interactions of atoms at the reaction site. As the reaction proceeds, the enzyme changes conformation because of that change (again, physics and chemistry) completing the reaction.

In other words, different atoms are attracted to each other in different ways: hydrogen has a different pattern of attraction than oxygen, which is different again from nitrogen, which is still different than sodium, or potassium, or carbon, etc. These attractions, together with physical proximity and types of bonds formed, produces the way that enzymes do their thing. The interactions of the individual atoms is better understood using quantum mechanics to learn about the bonds in detail, their energies, and directions, and reactivities.

Seriously, if you want to know more,read an organic chemistry book first, then a biochemistry book. It really isn't that mysterious.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#12356 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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I'll start:
Thou shalt not kill
Thou shalt not steal
The US's use of murder and theft laws has nothing to do with the 10 Commandments.

Both of those concepts are OLDER than the 10 Cs.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#12357 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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Has it happened yet? Until it does, you have no legitimate gripe.
The *only* reason the religious crap hasn't been taught in schools recently is because of the diligence of those trying to keep our secular form of government. There are currently proposals in several different states attempting to mandate the teaching of creationism in science classes.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#12358 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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I'll start:
Thou shalt not kill
Thou shalt not steal
That's 2, neither of which originated with Abrahamic legal thought, so there is no reason to claim that these laws are founded on them.

You've got 8 more and, if you really expect people to believe that our legal system is based on the 10-Cs, you need to show that at least 50% of these commandments are in fact laws on our books and that they originated with Abrahamic legal thought.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#12359 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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Has it happened yet? Until it does, you have no legitimate gripe.
Yes ... Repeatedly ... For years ... still being attempted.
Thinking

Uckfield, UK

#12360 Feb 5, 2013
Why don't you start with the BS commandments? Take them in order.
insidesecrets wrote:
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I'll start:
Thou shalt not kill
Thou shalt not steal

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#12361 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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Has it happened yet? Until it does, you have no legitimate gripe.
Every year the nut-job republicans, in various state assemblies, introduce bills in an attempt to force the teaching of unsupportable myth (creationism/intelligent design) as science to unsuspecting public school students. The fact that those bills are normally shot down before going very far, doesn't offset the fact that they are introduced in the first place! One would think that being shot down over and over and over again that the idiots would get a clue and stop wasting tax payer monies trying to push their religious agendas on people that don't want it!!

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#12362 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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Then live and let live.
I'll "live and let live" the day christians start to do the same.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#12363 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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Did I say that? I said, had the hoax not been exposed via newspaper articles, the public would not have known about it.
Er..not quite.

The scientists figured out it was a hoax and announced their findings.

The papers just published what they were told. They exposed nothing.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#12364 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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I'll start:
Thou shalt not kill
Thou shalt not steal
What about "Honour they father and mother"?

Is that an absolute rule?

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#12365 Feb 5, 2013
rio wrote:
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See, atheists form communities, gather in places, collect money, just like churches.
I wonder if they pay taxes on the funds collected.
I wonder if they also pay royalties on the pop music they sing too...
It that catches on, it won't be long before they pay guest speakers at their meetings, create a hierarchy, invest in properties, and claim tax exemption, just like churches.
It's kind of interesting that this small group of atheists have decided to follow a church model, but most atheists do not. See "fallacy of composition": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_compo...

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#12366 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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How can there be physical evidence for that which is non-physical? To expect it is not only irrational but ludicrous.
Expecting others to accept assertions without evidence is even more ludicrous.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#12367 Feb 5, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Scientific theories are based on the observable facts and are tested using such facts. I realize they are 'best effort' results which can be replaced if new evidence is found.
I see theories as conceptual frameworks for correlating known facts. The way that fossils are layered, for instance, showed earlier biologists the order in which species appeared and approximately how long they endured. They observed that as species died out, they were often succeeded by similar species that had adapted in some way, giving rise to the ToE, which has since been confirmed and expanded as new data became available and new technologies allowed for more detailed analysis.

So of course theories aren't facts--they aren't meant to be. Theories are meant to explain facts, not supplant them. It is through theory that science advances, right?

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#12368 Feb 5, 2013
Brit Expat wrote:
Worth watching. Religion in action. You wont find this on the BBC or FOXCRAP.
http://www.aljazeera.com/video/europe/2013/02...
There was a pretty good movie about this in 2002: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0318411/

You can see some of it on youtube:

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