Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Apr 25, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Psychology Today

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Did I say that? I said, had the hoax not been exposed via newspaper articles, the public would not have known about it.
And if the hoax had not been discovered by scientists and told to the journalists, then the papers would never have known about it.

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Opinions do not facts make.
Which is *exactly* why mysticism is not factual.

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To believe that the universe just happened for no particular reason takes faith.
On the contrary, to assume that the typical ideas of causality are applicable to the universe as a whole flies in the face of rationality.
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What.
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Say what?
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The piltdown fake was made by a christian. The scientific method debunked it.
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Did I say that? I said, had the hoax not been exposed via newspaper articles, the public would not have known about it.

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Personal biases do not truths make.
Exactly. Tested, repeatable results make truth.

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To believe that the universe just happened for no particular reason takes faith.
But I don't say that, so you are now attempting a strawman fallacy.

I don't know how the universe started or even if it "started".

Neither do you.

You claim goddidit. Which scientifically doesn't provide any testable predictive capability what-so-ever and is therefore a totally worthless claim made on faith.

I claim that there is at least some evidence for a number of different working hypotheses and am now awaiting predictive testing methods to help us move forward in our understanding.

You then lie to everybody about science you so clearly do not understand.
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Straw man.
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To believe that the universe just happened for no particular reason takes faith.

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The theories of science are trips into the imagination,
Which are limited by the requirement that hypotheses be testable with repeatable results. Imagination is required for the initial hypothesis, but does not and cannot justify belief. Only testing and repeatablity do that.

Religion, on the other hand, has no such limitations, so it flies wildly after any imaginings it pleases.

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I say it is.
Then provide *evidence* that distinguishes between intelligent design and the simple application of the laws of physics and chemistry.

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Christians have been trying to save the world for Jesus for 2,000 years and they haven't succeeded yet. What are you afraid of?
Wasn't he supposed to return during the life of his apostles??

My fears?

Spiders... but only the one I see above my head because they are more difficult to stomp!

Young children whose heads are about crotch height

and, as I have gotten older, heights as I tend to get vertigo now that I didn't have in my youth.

I'm not deathly afraid of any of them though.

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Reread my post. You lost something in the translation.
Doubtful, but I'll check...

Nope, reads the same.
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Which are limited by the requirement that hypotheses be testable with repeatable results. Imagination is required for the initial hypothesis, but does not and cannot justify belief. Only testing and repeatablity do that.
Religion, on the other hand, has no such limitations, so it flies wildly after any imaginings it pleases.
And how has the so called wild imaginings of the religious hurt science, or you for that matter?

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There are getting close (field theories) but so far, no cigar.
maybe in 2000 yrs they'll be as close as christians are to finding evidence for a god

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And how has the so called wild imaginings of the religious hurt science, or you for that matter?
BY TRYING TO REQUIRE THE TEACHING OF THAT WILD IMAGININGS CRAP TO PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENS AS SCIENCE!!
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Then provide *evidence* that distinguishes between intelligent design and the simple application of the laws of physics and chemistry.
As mentioned earlier, the DNA strand. What specifically tells enzymes to do what they do?

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And how has the so called wild imaginings of the religious hurt science, or you for that matter?
Dark ages. Over 100 years of fighting against heliocentricity. Over 150 years of fighting against biological evolution. Fighting stem cell research. Fighting global climate change. etc.

"It is now quite lawful for a Catholic woman to avoid pregnancy by a resort to mathematics, though she is still forbidden to resort to physics and chemistry." (H.L. Mencken)

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So those scientists are looking in their microscopes and saying hmmm... Red blood cells, white blood cells, leukocytes, god stuff, stem cells... Oh wait delete that about about god stuff!

So what is the god stuff levels in our blood? What is the proper range of god stuff?

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They do. They just don't recognize what they see as Intelligent Deisign.
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<quoted text>Wasn't he supposed to return during the life of his apostles??
My fears?
Spiders... but only the one I see above my head because they are more difficult to stomp!
Young children whose heads are about crotch height
and, as I have gotten older, heights as I tend to get vertigo now that I didn't have in my youth.
I'm not deathly afraid of any of them though.
Then live and let live.
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<quoted text>BY TRYING TO REQUIRE THE TEACHING OF THAT WILD IMAGININGS CRAP TO PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENS AS SCIENCE!!
Has it happened yet? Until it does, you have no legitimate gripe.

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