Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24182 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#12269 Feb 5, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
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That dude bores me. Was the interview at least entertaining?
I haven't seen it yet. It's on my DVR.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#12270 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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If you have never experienced transcendent events, how would you know such experiences do not exist and are not legitimate?
How can you know it is legitimate?

"Are there things in the Universe that we cannot know in the usual way of observing and measuring, but that we can know in some other way -- intuition, revelation, mad insight?

If so, how can you know that what you know in these non-knowing ways is really so?

Anything you know without knowing, others can know only through your flat statement without any proof other than 'I know!'

All this leads to such madness that I, for one, am content with the knowable. That is enough to know." ~ Isaac Asimov

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#12271 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
If you have never experienced transcendent events, how would you know such experiences do not exist and are not legitimate?
Why would you assume that nobody here has experienced a 'transcendental event'? I do assume that such *experiences* exists, but know they are not legitimate. They are one of the many ways that the brain can fool itself; illusions, if you wish.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#12272 Feb 5, 2013
Certainly she is unable to keep up with her lies. Not surprising as she is a Christhole flailing and just failing.
jacktheladat1 wrote:
<quoted text>This is just one example where the adage I posted, and some know-alls on here shot-down a while ago, applies,= "Good liars need even better memories."
Brit Expat

Clapiers, France

#12273 Feb 5, 2013
Worth watching. Religion in action. You wont find this on the BBC or FOXCRAP.
http://www.aljazeera.com/video/europe/2013/02...

Since: Mar 11

United States

#12274 Feb 5, 2013
Sharp as a marble that Rio and thick as pigsht.

Best pray for 40 IQ points ok wanker?
rio wrote:
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Do you always answer to posts 3 days later?
insidesecrets

Santa Fe, NM

#12275 Feb 5, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Which are inherently imprecise and unreliable. Using vague language to make irrational points is not an increase of knowledge.
Neither will ignoring transcendent human experience add to one's knowledge. An atheist looks into the abyss and sees nothing. The theist experiences God, and the abyss opens unto worlds of knowledge.
insidesecrets

Santa Fe, NM

#12276 Feb 5, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Why would you assume that nobody here has experienced a 'transcendental event'? I do assume that such *experiences* exists, but know they are not legitimate. They are one of the many ways that the brain can fool itself; illusions, if you wish.
If it exists, it is legitimate.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#12277 Feb 5, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
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Youtubed it. It was a very interesting interview. Maher looked like a corpse as always, but the other guy did bring up some good points. Not enough to make me convert, of course. But I could definitely view them objectively. Still gonna hang onto my 1st amendment rights.
I looked for that on YouTube and found an earlier interview of Harris on Maher's show dated August 21, 2009. That's probably the one you saw. That was a good interview.

[tick-tock]

I just watched most of the recent Sam Harris spot. Unfortunately, the five minutes or so of it that I saw was all about gun control. What he said wasn't too interesting or useful.
insidesecrets

Santa Fe, NM

#12278 Feb 5, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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How can you know it is legitimate?
"Are there things in the Universe that we cannot know in the usual way of observing and measuring, but that we can know in some other way -- intuition, revelation, mad insight?
If so, how can you know that what you know in these non-knowing ways is really so?
Anything you know without knowing, others can know only through your flat statement without any proof other than 'I know!'
All this leads to such madness that I, for one, am content with the knowable. That is enough to know." ~ Isaac Asimov
It is not science that makes your life legitimate, it is your own experiences. If you cannot trust your experiences, you end up denying your human nature.
insidesecrets

Santa Fe, NM

#12279 Feb 5, 2013
Thinking wrote:
What has spirituality got that reality plus imagination hasn't?
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The development of one's moral consciousness through "action" which in turn gives meaning and dignity to life.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#12280 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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It is not science that makes your life legitimate, it is your own experiences. If you cannot trust your experiences, you end up denying your human nature.
Experiences don't make life legitimate either. Just because you believe you can fly doesn't mean you will survive a 50ft fall.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#12281 Feb 5, 2013
trekx wrote:
Lets just put it this way, to be religious (any religion) you first have to be taught that religion. But to be an Atheist you dont have to be taught anything at all, its just a natural state of mind and the way we are all born ...
Fromt he August 21, 2009 appearance of Sam Harris on Bill Maher's show:

BILL MAHER: How did you get to where you are, and what advice would you give to kids today who wanna break into atheism?

SAM HARRIS: Well, I started there, and that's kind of the point.

MAHER: You did?

HARRIS: Yeah, unless you're indoctrinated at some point early on -- it's kind of like smoking -- you tend not to pick it up later in life.

MAHER: As a child, you were an atheist?

HARRIS: Atheism has no content.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#12282 Feb 5, 2013
I bet those scientists see god-stuff all the time under the microscope but refuse to publish it!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!
insidesecrets wrote:
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Neither will ignoring transcendent human experience add to one's knowledge. An atheist looks into the abyss and sees nothing. The theist experiences God, and the abyss opens unto worlds of knowledge.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#12283 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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The development of one's moral consciousness through "action" which in turn gives meaning and dignity to life.
Atheists aren't here to discuss morals or philosophy. Many theists make the mistake that because religion tries to talk about these subjects, atheism must also.

Atheist is just a classification - a lack of belief or faith in god, In fact from an atheist's point of view, it's not a lack of anything at all.

As many atheists will tell you, they may also have philosophical viewpoints about life, etc.

The problem is that uneducated theists put this pressure on atheists and have an expectation that atheism is out to solve spiritual or philosophical problems, which is absolutely is not trying to do or claiming to do.
Thinking

Uckfield, UK

#12284 Feb 5, 2013
That's just a subset of "reality plus imagination".
insidesecrets wrote:
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The development of one's moral consciousness through "action" which in turn gives meaning and dignity to life.
Brit Expat

Clapiers, France

#12285 Feb 5, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Sharp as a marble that Rio and thick as pigsht.
Best pray for 40 IQ points ok wanker?
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Give me strength! It's not only the US that has to put up with raving religous loonies. I blame brainwashing from birth/or the easily led inadquate! But! Thinking about it. The food and drink of religion has always been about controlling the inadaquate! THINKING for religous types is just not an option. Sad really.
insidesecrets

Santa Fe, NM

#12286 Feb 5, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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NO. I have confidence in them in direct proportion to the amount of available independently verified evidence in support of them.
In other words, you have "faith" in Science and it's ever changing theorizing. Only through the belief in God is one able to comprehend an absolute in such an uncertain world.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#12287 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
There is no stork theory in the Bible.
Yes, I know. If it were, there would probably be Supreme Court cases adjuducating on teaching it in the public schools.
insidesecrets wrote:
You will not make atheism shine by bashing Christians and spreading disinformation.
I am not attempting to make atheism shine. I just want your church to fade from view.
insidesecrets wrote:
You will not conquer hatred and intolerance with hatred and intolerance.
I have no hatred - just contempt. And I will not tolerate your church poking its nose into my life if I don't have to.
insidesecrets wrote:
Atheism must stand on its own merits, whatever those are. That's what you should be promoting.
Thanks for the tips, but I doubt you know what I want.

I'm not interested in promoting atheism, just opposing the Christian church. I consider it a victory not when a person converts to atheism, but when they repudiate your church, and stop allowing it to determine who they hate and how they'll vote.

That is why "irreligious " and "none of the above" is a much more important number than the fraction using the words "atheist, " "agnostic, " "freethinker, " "humanist, " and "skeptic. "

You can be Buddhist, Jainist, Taoist or Bahai, and I'm cool with that, because you won't be underwriting or carrying water for Christian atheophobia, homophobia, sexual guilt, antiscientism, the demeaning of mankind, or any of the other gifts that your church has given us.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#12288 Feb 5, 2013
rio wrote:
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See, atheists form communities, gather in places, collect money, just like churches.
I wonder if they pay taxes on the funds collected.
I wonder if they also pay royalties on the pop music they sing too...
It that catches on, it won't be long before they pay guest speakers at their meetings, create a hierarchy, invest in properties, and claim tax exemption, just like churches.
You could also be describing a book club a knitting circle a biker club and on and on.

In other words...epic fail.

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