Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24182 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#12189 Feb 4, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
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Whatever you say, Captain Atheisthole.
Ad hominem replies become you.....it's soooo....knee jerk reaction when you don't have a valid point to make.

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#12190 Feb 4, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
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I never said evolution originated with Jesus. Seriously. It's like you think I've never read a book that wasn't the Bible. Are you even reading what I write before you misquote me? Don't you have a truck driver to go service, narciatheist?
The pentagram you poor dolt, do try to keep up. You said it represented the five wounds of jeebus.....

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#12191 Feb 4, 2013
BBSting wrote:
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Baloney!
"Dr Barrett claimed anthropologists have found that in some cultures children believe in God even when religious teachings are withheld from them."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/3512...
Do you mean the media news outlet headed by Lord Black? Conrad Moffat Black, Baron Black of Crossharbour, PC, OC, KCSG is a Canadian-born former newspaper publisher, a historian, a columnist, a UK peer, and "convicted felon for fraud" who for a time headed the third-largest newspaper group in the world.

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#12192 Feb 4, 2013
Tom Jones wrote:
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< fraud does happen in the sciences >
Didn't say it didn't. Do try to keep up.

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

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#12193 Feb 4, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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:)
It's what I do best: force them to reveal their true natures.
It's always ugly, isn't it?
:LMAO:
Ugly, yes.....pretty frickin' hilarious too!!!

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#12194 Feb 4, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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Correct. Atheism is not a philosophy, it is a cult of denialists.
So you and justsayin' BOTH have it exactly backasswards!

LMAO!

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#12195 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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Correct. Atheism is not a philosophy, it is a cult of denialists.
LOL...denial of what? An imaginary being for whose existence there is zero proof?

People who believe in unicorns must also be a cult of denialiists!

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#12196 Feb 5, 2013
sorry...people who DON'T believe in unicorns must also be a cult of denialists.
rio

UK

#12197 Feb 5, 2013
What happens at an atheist church?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21319945
Thinking

Uckfield, UK

#12198 Feb 5, 2013
"only sheep need a shepherd"

Funniest story of the week for me: muslim prisoners oinking about halal

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21302925
rio wrote:
What happens at an atheist church?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21319945

“What game?”

Since: Oct 10

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#12199 Feb 5, 2013
Thinking wrote:
"only sheep need a shepherd"
Funniest story of the week for me: muslim prisoners oinking about halal
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21302925
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First Church of German Shepherds.

Indoctrination:

Thinking

Uckfield, UK

#12200 Feb 5, 2013
My Airedale is definitely an unbeliever. Where is she?
River Tam wrote:
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First Church of German Shepherds.
Indoctrination:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =CAqay4vnLw4XX

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#12201 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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The scientific method... hypothesize, model, and test is becoming obsolete. Consider physics. Scientific earth models are less than a century old and are already proving to be unreliable. Newtonian models were crude approximations of the truth (wrong at the atomic level, but still useful). A hundred years ago, statistically based quantum mechanics offered a better picture, but quantum mechanics is yet another model, and as such it too is flawed, no doubt a caricature of a more complex underlying reality. The reason physics has drifted into theoretical speculation about n-dimensional grand unified models over the past few decades is that scientists don't know how to run the experiments that would falsify the hypotheses. The energies are too high, the accelerators too expensive, etc.
How does any of this show the scientific method is obsolete? It is through hypothesis formation and testing that we update our models to include new data. That is *why* we had to update Newtonian physics to relativistic and quantum physics. That is *why* physics moves to higher dimensional speculation: that is what is required (as far as we can see) to explain the data we have. And all that speculation is just that, speculation, until there is a test to determine its effectiveness.
Biology is heading in the same direction. The models we were taught in school about "dominant" and "recessive" genes steering a strictly Mendelian process have turned out to be an even greater simplification of reality than Newton's laws. The discovery of gene-protein interactions and other aspects of epigenetics has challenged the view of DNA as destiny and even introduced evidence that environment can influence inheritable traits, something once considered a genetic impossibility.
Once again, how does this make the scientific method obsolete? If anything, it shows exactly how it works in practice. Science works by obtaining successive approximations that explain more and more of the data as we accumulate even more data. So, while Mendelian genetics is simplistic, it is useful in a great many cases. For those cases where it is not, we have our updated theories that encompass it also. those new theories are based on *data* and *testing*. That seems to me to be exactly as it should be.
At best science can only measure reality insofar as human senses and the current use of mental faculties are able to process physical existence.
Do you have another way of measuring reality? Any other method of *reliably* obtaining information about the universe around us?

Part of the 'mental faculties' part allows us to detect radio, infra-red, ultra-violet, x-rays, gamma-rays, ultra-sound, neutrons, neutrinos, electrons, etc, etc, etc. As we learn more, we learn how to use new methods to probe the universe around us. And those new methods allow us to extend our senses to learn even more. Once again, this seems to be as it should be.

You seem to be complaining that science has changed over the last 100 years when that is actually a very good thing: science changes based on data and new techniques. Each stage is an approximation, but as we progress, the approximations get better and better.

“Think&Care”

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#12202 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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Journalists following tips.
Wrong. Scientific fraud is almost exclusively discovered by other scientists attempting to replicate results. Journalists, while useful for political fraud, do not understand the basics of science enough to uncover scientific fraud.

“What game?”

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#12203 Feb 5, 2013
Thinking wrote:
My Airedale is definitely an unbeliever. Where is she?
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I'm more in tune with mongrels. Being one myself.

People here like dogs called Pit Bulls. I carry a packet of bacon in my purse right next to my shiv.

Diversion is a good tactic. Just sayin.

“Think&Care”

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#12204 Feb 5, 2013
Tom Jones wrote:
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Science is broken. Psychology was rocked recently by stories of academics making up data, sometimes overshadowing whole careers. And it isn't the only discipline with problems - the current record for fraudulent papers is held by anaesthesiologist Yoshitaka Fujii, with 172 faked articles.
These scandals highlight deeper cultural problems in academia. Pressure to turn out lots of high-quality publications not only promotes extreme behaviours, it normalises the little things, like the selective publication of positive novel findings – which leads to "non-significant" but possibly true findings sitting unpublished on shelves, and a lack of much needed replication studies.
http://m.guardiannews.com/science/blog/2012/n...
< fraud does happen in the sciences >
Did you even read what I wrote? Psychology is a problem because it doesn't generally follow the procedures of science. In particular, the requirement to have testable hypotheses and actually replicate results. perhaps the subject need to get its act together?

And yes, the 'publish or perish' attitude of most universities does promote repeated publication. But, if caught, the career of the scientist is destroyed.

“Think&Care”

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#12205 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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You are not following the conversation. If the scientific method is becoming more and more unreliable, the facts it produces are likewise unreliable.
But, in physics, biology, geology, chemistry, etc, the method *is* reliable and the facts are becoming more and more reliable. The social 'sciences' have problems because they often do not follow the scientific method. They should.

Which facts do you consider to be unreliable? Solid state physics, which supports the creation of the computer on which you type? Quantum mechanics, which has unified areas as diverse as subatomic particles, gas dynamics, and solid state? The dating of the meteor that hit about the time that the dinosaurs died off?
Thinking

Uckfield, UK

#12206 Feb 5, 2013
I'm sure you'd love my dog now she's past her prosthetic burying phase.
River Tam wrote:
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I'm more in tune with mongrels. Being one myself.
People here like dogs called Pit Bulls. I carry a packet of bacon in my purse right next to my shiv.
Diversion is a good tactic. Just sayin.
insidesecrets

Santa Fe, NM

#12207 Feb 5, 2013
trekx wrote:
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HAHAHA That is bull, we dont know anything with out being taught, that is like saying that children know history with out ever being taught. I believe that about as much as i believe in your god. LOL
But giving you the benefit of the doubt this is from scared children that make up imaginary friend has nothing to do with religion and what it teaches, its time to grow up and put the imaginary things away ....
And BTW Atheism is the lack of belief witch is how we are ALL born.
We did not magically appear in time and space by accident. We have a divine source. We are spiritual beings expressing as humans. We are not born blank slates, we bring a history with us.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#12208 Feb 5, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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We did not magically appear in time and space by accident. We have a divine source. We are spiritual beings expressing as humans. We are not born blank slates, we bring a history with us.
Ok, lets assume we have a divine source. What can you conclude about this divine entity? Is it good or bad or indifferent? Is it one powerful God or many lesser gods?

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