Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Apr 25, 2012 Full story: Psychology Today 23,565

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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#12099 Feb 4, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
"Atheism is not a philosophy; it is not even a view of the world; it is simply a refusal to deny the obvious."
-Sam Harris
--American Neuroscientist
This quote is from "An Atheist Manifesto", "A Dig led by Sam Harris", "Sam Harris argues against irrational faith and its adherents". Here is a link.

http://www.truthdig.com/dig/item/200512_an_at...

"The atheist is merely a person who believes that the 260 million Americans (87% of the population) who claim to never doubt the existence of God should be obliged to present evidence for his existence and, indeed, for his benevolence, given the relentless destruction of innocent human beings we witness in the world each day. Only the atheist appreciates just how uncanny our situation is: Most of us believe in a God that is every bit as specious as the gods of Mount Olympus; no person, whatever his or her qualifications, can seek public office in the United States without pretending to be certain that such a God exists; and much of what passes for public policy in our country conforms to religious taboos and superstitions appropriate to a medieval theocracy. Our circumstance is abject, indefensible and terrifying. It would be hilarious if the stakes were not so high."

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#12100 Feb 4, 2013
Roland_Deschain wrote:
<quoted text>This quote is from "An Atheist Manifesto", "A Dig led by Sam Harris", "Sam Harris argues against irrational faith and its adherents". Here is a link.

http://www.truthdig.com/dig/item/200512_an_at...

"The atheist is merely a person who believes that the 260 million Americans (87% of the population) who claim to never doubt the existence of God should be obliged to present evidence for his existence and, indeed, for his benevolence, given the relentless destruction of innocent human beings we witness in the world each day. Only the atheist appreciates just how uncanny our situation is: Most of us believe in a God that is every bit as specious as the gods of Mount Olympus; no person, whatever his or her qualifications, can seek public office in the United States without pretending to be certain that such a God exists; and much of what passes for public policy in our country conforms to religious taboos and superstitions appropriate to a medieval theocracy. Our circumstance is abject, indefensible and terrifying. It would be hilarious if the stakes were not so high."
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#12101 Feb 4, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
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That dude bores me. Was the interview at least entertaining?
You're a creationist, of course intelligence bored you.

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Riverside , CA

#12102 Feb 4, 2013
Lets just put it this way, to be religious (any religion) you first have to be taught that religion. But to be an Atheist you dont have to be taught anything at all, its just a natural state of mind and the way we are all born ...
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#12103 Feb 4, 2013
trekx wrote:
Lets just put it this way, to be religious (any religion) you first have to be taught that religion. But to be an Atheist you dont have to be taught anything at all, its just a natural state of mind and the way we are all born ...
There is a third option, make up your religion as you go along. There are a few theists like this on topix.
insidesecrets

Albuquerque, NM

#12104 Feb 4, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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There are no other points of view regarding the subject matter of science.For example, there is a science called obstetrics.


It is still science.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<The only other point of view is stork theory. We will continue with the imperialism of not offering children that choice.
Do you doubt or deny that if your bible taught that children came from storks that you would be arguing for stork theory to be taught in the schools, and calling it indoctrination and imperialism if it weren't?
There is no stork theory in the Bible. It is the product of Scandinavian folklore.

You will not make atheism shine by bashing Christians and spreading disinformation. You will not conquer hatred and intolerance with hatred and intolerance. Atheism must stand on its own merits, whatever those are. That's what you should be promoting.
Thinking

Saffron Walden, UK

#12105 Feb 4, 2013
What is your issue with the scientific method?
insidesecrets wrote:
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Are YOU listening? Is our government?
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If all it takes is one quote to condemn the whole of Christianity in your world then you should not have no problem with one quote indicting science.
"For 200 years we've been conquering Nature. Now we're beating it to death." - Tom McMillan
insidesecrets

Albuquerque, NM

#12106 Feb 4, 2013
Thinking wrote:
What is your issue with the scientific method?
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Most of the time, scientists know what results they want, and that can influence the results they get.
Thinking

Saffron Walden, UK

#12107 Feb 4, 2013
Prove it.
insidesecrets wrote:
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Most of the time, scientists know what results they want, and that can influence the results they get.

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#12108 Feb 4, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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Most of the time, scientists know what results they want, and that can influence the results they get.
Even if that were true (and its not) the second that other scientists tried to replicate the results of the first, the first scientist's work would be exposed - which is why scientists don't try to create a preconceived result. They might hope for a specific result, they might think they are going to get a specific result, but the don't influence the result.

See...that's how science works.

“Think&Care”

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#12109 Feb 4, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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Most of the time, scientists know what results they want, and that can influence the results they get.
Garbage. If that were true, why is it that scientists are surprised so often? You also forget that scientists are a varied group of people that have different biases and different 'results they want'. That is why peer review is so important: if the data convinces even those who have a bias the other way, you can have some confidence in the results. Finally, the way science works is we attempt to show our theories to be *wrong*. That is, by far, the quickest way to get status in the scientific community. If the ideas survive in spite of many attempts to show them wrong, we can again have increased confidence in them.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

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#12110 Feb 4, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
"Atheism is not a philosophy; it is not even a view of the world; it is simply a refusal to deny the obvious."
-Sam Harris
--American Neuroscientist
What is your point? Do you even have one?

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#12111 Feb 4, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>You're a creationist, of course intelligence bored you.
So the prerequisite for being an atheist is that you must also be an evolutionist? Labels shmabels. I don't fit neatly into any of your little boxes. I'm a free spirit. My own person. I don't find it difficult at all to believe in God as well as the theories of evolution, as laid out by Charles Darwin. lol The Maher guy's just boring cause he's boring. Plus he looks like a walking corpse. Crypt keeper much?

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#12112 Feb 4, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>What is your point? Do you even have one?
Y'all obviously don't as there's no point to arguing just to argue. Which is precisely what this is. There's no clear definitive end to any of this. No mutual grounds of understanding. No real goal for the conversation. It just goes on and on and on...and on. Why should anybody take THAT seriously?

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#12113 Feb 4, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>What is your point? Do you even have one?
Cool pentagram by the way. You into witchcraft? Or a satanist? Freemason? You know the pentagram was originally used as a sign of Christianity. It was used to represent the five wounds of Christ.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#12114 Feb 4, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
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Cool pentagram by the way. You into witchcraft? Or a satanist? Freemason? You know the pentagram was originally used as a sign of Christianity. It was used to represent the five wounds of Christ.
Used before then apparently..

The first known uses of the pentagram are found in Mesopotamian writings dating to about 3000 BC. The Sumerian pentagrams served as pictograms for the word "UB" meaning "corner, angle, nook; a small room, cavity, hole; pitfall", suggesting something very similar to the pentemychos (see below on the Pythagorean use for what pentemychos means). In René Labat's index system of Sumerian hieroglyphs/pictograms it is shown with two points up. In the Babylonian context, the edges of the pentagram were probably orientations: forward, backward, left, right, and "above". These directions also had an astrological meaning, representing the five planets Jupiter, Mercury, Mars, Saturn, and Venus as the "Queen of Heaven" (Ishtar) above.
Thinking

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#12115 Feb 4, 2013
I don't see your point. Worldwide, most christians also believe in Evolution.
01Justsayin wrote:
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So the prerequisite for being an atheist is that you must also be an evolutionist? Labels shmabels. I don't fit neatly into any of your little boxes. I'm a free spirit. My own person. I don't find it difficult at all to believe in God as well as the theories of evolution, as laid out by Charles Darwin. lol The Maher guy's just boring cause he's boring. Plus he looks like a walking corpse. Crypt keeper much?

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#12116 Feb 4, 2013
Adam wrote:
<quoted text>Used before then apparently..

The first known uses of the pentagram are found in Mesopotamian writings dating to about 3000 BC. The Sumerian pentagrams served as pictograms for the word "UB" meaning "corner, angle, nook; a small room, cavity, hole; pitfall", suggesting something very similar to the pentemychos (see below on the Pythagorean use for what pentemychos means). In René Labat's index system of Sumerian hieroglyphs/pictograms it is shown with two points up. In the Babylonian context, the edges of the pentagram were probably orientations: forward, backward, left, right, and "above". These directions also had an astrological meaning, representing the five planets Jupiter, Mercury, Mars, Saturn, and Venus as the "Queen of Heaven" (Ishtar) above.
Used by a lot of people for a lot of reasons. What are his?

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#12117 Feb 4, 2013
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>I don't see your point. Worldwide, most christians also believe in Evolution.
And? Just because I believe in Jesus doesn't mean I can't also see the common sense in evolution? Again, labels schmabels.

“The eye has it...”

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#12118 Feb 4, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
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Used by a lot of people for a lot of reasons. What are his?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_%28band%29

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