Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

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My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Fennario

#11991 Feb 3, 2013
Khatru wrote:
Consider the enormous amount of evidence there is to support the notion that there really were witches in Salem:

The governor of Massachusetts (William Phips) was involved. A court was established with the prosecution, defence and judge; all respected pillars of the local communities.

Thorough investigations were carried out and witness were cross-examined. A lot of evidence was gathered and many people confessed. All these proceedings were documented with hundreds of sworn affidavits, interviews and other court documents.

In other words a scale of evidence and testimonies far in excess of anything there is for Jesus.

The Salem Witch Trials were fairly recent and we have the original documents, not copies of copies of copies, made centuries later. We have the sworn and signed eye-witness testimonies from the very people who observed the magical events taking place.

There are even volumes written by witnesses to the trial. The evidence is plentiful.

If you look at what happened in 17th century Salem the same way that you look at what happened in 2000-year old Jerusalem, how can those people not have been witches?
Good post!

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Fennario

#11992 Feb 3, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
I was demonstrating how atheism has its own history of brutality, violence and genocide.
rio wrote:
I have already mentioned that ... Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Kim Ill jung
You all do.

In fact, it's IANS Fifth Law (Godbot’s law) of Internet fundies - named in honor of Godwin. From http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/TMVMHAPR8... :

[1] IANS First Law: You cannot successfully refute atheism without producing a god

[2] IANS Second Law: Regardless of what they may say to the contrary, all theists posting on atheist threads are there to proselytize to atheists.

[3] IANS Third Law: Christians will dissemble without compunction while proselytizing.

[4] IANS Fourth Law: Anybody calling himself an atheist, agnostic or deist who is arguing with the bulk of atheists around him is a stealth theist until proven otherwise.

[5] IANS Fifth Law (Godbot’s law): As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a theist citing Stalin, Mao, and/or Pol Pot approaches one."

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Fennario

#11993 Feb 3, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
You atheists are a hypocritical lot. You claim that fantasies about superhuman beings are a waste of time. You will thumb your noses at Jesus as superstition, and then log onto World of Warcraft so you can pretend to be an orc for hours.
You're decompensating rapidly. This is the second stage. The first is pseudointellectual crap, maybe about philosophical arguments about first causes or archeological findings.

Then comes this stuff - material such as "you can't prove there's no god," "you are rebellious," and "everybody else believes in a god except a few percent of you, so I must be correct."

The last stage is generally the full meltdown - "you'll be sorry", "every knee will bend," and "you atheists are going to hell," often with a touching addendum that you will be watching and enjoying it from heaven.

We don't want your religion. We've already rejected it.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#11994 Feb 3, 2013
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism is at the core of marxism, I can tell you.
Marxism-Leninism had the suppression of religion as one of its fundamental task in its programme, and its replacement by the ideal of communism.
So, we just have to look at the fail attempt at socialist utopia in USSR and other places, to have a good idea of what society would be with atheists in power: it's not pretty!
Atheists can be just as intolerant as religionists, and an atheist country has nothing to envy from a theist state.
The communist ideal of giving everything to the collective appears in the Bible, and that was many centuries before Marx and Engels.

The Bible also shows how defying the collective has fatal consequences.

Perhaps Marx was inspired by the Bible.

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Fennario

#11995 Feb 3, 2013
scaritual wrote:
Correct, all it requires is surrendering your unsupported mythic beliefs, it isn't a defeat, it's a victory.
Nice new avatar. What's that under the eye? Eye shadow?

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#11996 Feb 3, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
There are no genocides committed over that. For that, you need something like a bible.
Absolutely!

The Bible provides us with many examples of instructions to kill. Yet Christians interpret this as the transcendent love of their god.

Contrast that with the writings and manifestos of secular humanism, where you certainly won't find instructions to kill.

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Fennario

#11997 Feb 3, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
There is an old saying, "Leave the atheist who loves his error to live his error."
I Googled your "old saying" and got one hit: this thread.
http://snipurl.com/26aqmk9

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Fennario

#11998 Feb 3, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
Atheism is a cult. It hasn't taken hold however because it requires a belief in the irrational. Any philosophy based on the idea that something comes from nothing is a philosphy of absurdity.
More of stage two.

Hellfire can't be far off.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#11999 Feb 3, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Good post!
Thanks

When it comes to standards of evidence for magic, we non-believers set the bar at a high level.

When that magic is as described in the Bile, Quran, Gita, etc; believers will drop the bar to an exceedingly low level while we non-believers maintain the bar at the same high level.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#12000 Feb 3, 2013
Whoops!

Spot the Freudian Typo

I accidentally skipped the second "b" in Bible.
rio

UK

#12001 Feb 3, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps Marx was inspired by the Bible.
Didn't look like it ...

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Fennario

#12002 Feb 3, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
I could not possibly care less, if you want to attach dead chicken-feet to a baby's rattle and dance on the graves of your dead in your underwear. If that is what it takes to make your pathetic life have a semblance of meaning? Have at it.
I'm still laughing.

The Christians want respect. They also want us to respect the chicken talon - to obey it and to hate what it hates. I don't see any of that happening happening.

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Fennario

#12003 Feb 3, 2013
rio wrote:
I am not religious and I don't believe in religion, but I tolerate most as harmless expressions of some people's spirituality.
The church is hardly that. It's been a devastating institution. In America, it defines who to hate (atheists and gays) and who to disbelieve (scientists, including climate scientists). Both are quite harmful.
rio wrote:
You, atheist activists, don't seem to be a happy lot: just an observation...
Thanks for your concern.

So you're not into religion, huh? Then you should have no objection to blaspheming the Holy Pigeon.
rio wrote:
I am very sympathetic to people wanting to keep their traditions
Christianity is an infantilizing "tradition." We all suffer for having too many Christians per capita.

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Fennario

#12004 Feb 3, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
Since the atheist does not believe that God exists then he cannot lay our modern nightmare (climate change) at the feet of the Abrahamic religions.
Why not? Christian anti-scientism and its apocalyptic eschatology are in large part responsible. Christianity teaches that science and scientists can't be trusted. Why would people so instructed listen to climate scientists?

This is also a Christian nicety, something I showed you three days ago. Note his job title. He was entrusted to protect America's natural resources :

“We don't have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand”- James Watt, Secretary of the Interior under Reagan

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Fennario

#12005 Feb 3, 2013
rio wrote:
I just cannot believe the intolerent fanaticism of these atheist activists.
I'll tell you what: We promise not to stone you, impale you in the iron maiden, lacerate your recti with the anal pear, or burn you at the stake. That already makes us more tolerant than the religites, doesn't it?
rio wrote:
What do they fear now?
Nothing. We're celebrating.

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Fennario

#12006 Feb 3, 2013
rio wrote:
I don't feel any right to stop people in their beliefs, which are mostly harmless.
Strongly disagree.
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#12007 Feb 3, 2013
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Fennario

#12008 Feb 3, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
You're just another lying godbot, pretending. I've seen your ilk on Topix in the past. You aren't fooling anyone.
[4] IANS Fourth Law: Anybody calling himself an atheist, agnostic or deist who is arguing with the bulk of atheists around him is a stealth theist until proven otherwise.

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Fennario

#12009 Feb 3, 2013
rio wrote:
So, for you tolerating someone is agreeing with him? To me it's just being plainly civilised.
I intend to give Christianity all of the respect that it has given to atheists like me. More, really. Are you good with that?

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#12010 Feb 3, 2013
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not religious, and I don't have a religion. But I tolerate anyone.
I don't hate non-believers, I hate the intolerance displayed by some.
I just cannot see why many atheists want to impose their views on others, and dismiss religionists as crank, deluded, supersticious, etc....
Just like I don't agree with religionists imposing their views on others.
There is room for everyone, and we should tolerate each others religious beliefs, or lack of, without engaging in hostilities, verbal or else...
Then why this series of diatribes against nonbelievers? Why is it identical to previous series from Christian fundamentalists?

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