Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24079 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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rio

London, UK

#11962 Feb 3, 2013
albtraum wrote:
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We should keep religion because people like ceremonies???? You assume there has to be a religious connotation to every celebration?
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No, there will be religions as long as some people want them.

What's your problem in tolerating them?

After all, they have to tolerate you!
rio

London, UK

#11963 Feb 3, 2013
albtraum wrote:
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1. Enabler and most likely participant.
2. Falsehoods are NEVER harmless.
It's your intolerance which isn't harmless.

I come to think that religionists are more tolerant than atheists like you.

You are worst than an Ayatollah !!
rio

London, UK

#11964 Feb 3, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
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What taxes do British churches have to pay?
British churches are non-profit organisations which are exempt of taxes in Britain. Same as charities, etc...
rio

London, UK

#11965 Feb 3, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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Stalin was an atheist.
It always amuses me when atheist deny that Stalin was an atheist. They will tell you he was an Orthodox, bla, bla, bla....

Stalin is the perfect example of what atheists can do when they reach power: they persecute believers and try to crush all religions to create an utopian atheist society.
The perfect atheist state would be George Orwell "1984" !

We have seen what atheists can do when they get in power; just look at the sorry story of the USSR, China under Mao, Cambodia with Pol Pot, North Korea with Kim Il Jung, etc...
rio

London, UK

#11966 Feb 3, 2013
EdSed wrote:
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Religion is divisive and a source of sectarianism and conflict..
Just like if religion was the cause of all the problems, and atheism the solution to everything. Very simplistic indeed.

Sources of conflicts are mostly social, economic, geographical, politic, etc.... Very rarely religious these days, apart from isolated trouble spots where religion is used as a smokescreen (Northern Ireland, Middle East, Sri Lanka, Kashmir, Tibet) for geo-politic ambitions.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#11967 Feb 3, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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Which is the real delusion? The theist does not say he knows with certainty that God exists, he says he believes it. His belief in God therefore does not demand proof since it is based on faith. The atheist, on the other hand, claims to be quite certain that there is no god. Since he claims to be contemptuous of unsupported belief, he must provide some firm foundation for his “knowledge." This he can never do. If there are no proofs that God or gods exist, there are also no proofs they do not exist. The atheist is just as unscientific as he claims the theist is. His stance is just as mired in belief as the theist. The atheist needs to realize that atheism is a belief just as firmly planted in irrationality, in ego and desire, as it claims theism is. Atheism has no proof and no possible proof. It is unscientific. Like all human beliefs, it is conjecture based on a hunch.
By that twisted logic, everyone should believe literally everything that anyone ever tells them until such time as it is proven false.

For the 1,245,630th time - one does not have to (and, in fact, cannot) prove a negative.

Or, are you in fact saying that you believe that Leprechauns do exist and that they are guarding pots of gold at the end of rainbows? After all, it is has never been proven they don't exist...
Henry

Zwickau, Germany

#11968 Feb 3, 2013
ExcommunicateThis wrote:
Well, atheism is already the majority view amongst the population of the world in general, even if people go through the motions of religion just to fit in with others of their tribe.
Religions are antiquated!
Henry

Zwickau, Germany

#11969 Feb 3, 2013
rio wrote:
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I am not religious and I don't believe in religion, but I tolerate most as harmless expressions of some people's spirituality.
You are a very jumpy sort of atheist, who seems to see the enemy everywhere. That's bordering on paranoia.
I hope you check under your bed at night! LOL
For you lot, everyone is lying, deluded and pretending.
You, atheist activists, don't seem to be a happy lot: just an observation...
I am very sympathetic to people wanting to keep their traditions, and I wouldn't dream of eradicating religions, as you atheist fanatics do. Religions don't bother me, and atheists neither, unless they start preaching to me like you try to do!
As far as I concerned, religions is not "harmless" at all. Religions are always interfering with the states. The Vatican is not harmless at all. The popes are taking parties all the time, so do other religions.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#11970 Feb 3, 2013
This will never happen. Don't be fooled. Religion is the optimum form of control over sheep minded people, why would the government ever be rid of it?
rio

London, UK

#11971 Feb 3, 2013
Henry wrote:
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As far as I concerned, religions is not "harmless" at all. Religions are always interfering with the states. The Vatican is not harmless at all. The popes are taking parties all the time, so do other religions.
Why should religions and religious leaders be prevented from taking part in any debate affecting society? It's when they try to impose their dogma that it's bad, but not when they give their opinion; after all they are supposed to guide their followers.

I don't think that Popes have been able to impose anything since the 19th century. But obviously they have some influence in countries where there is a strong catholic presnce.

But I do agree that theist states like Iran of Saudi Arabia are not the way to go, mostly because they don't allow for freedom of expression.

Popes have been unable to stop divorce, contraception, abortion happening in catholic countries, and I think they will not prevent gay marriage either, but they will have their say.
rio

London, UK

#11972 Feb 3, 2013
Henry wrote:
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Religions are antiquated!
So are any traditions...

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#11973 Feb 3, 2013
rio wrote:
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It always amuses me when atheist deny that Stalin was an atheist. They will tell you he was an Orthodox, bla, bla, bla....
Stalin is the perfect example of what atheists can do when they reach power: they persecute believers and try to crush all religions to create an utopian atheist society.
The perfect atheist state would be George Orwell "1984" !
We have seen what atheists can do when they get in power; just look at the sorry story of the USSR, China under Mao, Cambodia with Pol Pot, North Korea with Kim Il Jung, etc...
No, you are arguing a straw man.

What we take exception to is the argument that atheism caused Stalin or anyone else to commit atrocities. No one has ever shown a necessary link between the vile acts of an individual and atheism as the driving factor. Note that The same cannot be said for theism.

Communism (and socialism) are sociopolitical philosophies based in economic arguments and have nothing to do with atheism. In fact communal socialism has its roots in the book of Acts.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#11974 Feb 3, 2013
Wow how much more childish can you get justfailing?

You see half wit changing your screen name doesn't change your stupidity.
01Justsayin wrote:
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How do YOU justify hypocrisy?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#11975 Feb 3, 2013
Witch burning has been a Christian crime for centuries. Even to this day in some countries so called witches are put to death for angering Jesus.

The crimes of Stalin and Pol Pott and North Korea were in the name of totalitarianism. Not one of any of these examples did anyone say, in the name of atheism you die. Unlike the Salem witch trials, spanish inquisition, Nazi Germany, where indeed they were put to death in the name of Jesus.
insidesecrets wrote:
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You mentioned Salem specifically.
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I see. When atheists are involved, it's just a moral failure, not an "utter" moral failure. How convenient.
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The belief in gods and an afterlife is a common fact of human nature demonstrated across different cultures for centuries. You atheists must demonstrate how denying your human nature has value.
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No. I was demonstrating how atheism has its own history of brutality, violence and genocide.
rio

London, UK

#11976 Feb 3, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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Communism (and socialism) are sociopolitical philosophies based in economic arguments and have nothing to do with atheism.
Atheism is at the core of marxism, I can tell you.

Marxism-Leninism had the suppression of religion as one of its fundamental task in its programme, and its replacement by the ideal of communism.

So, we just have to look at the fail attempt at socialist utopia in USSR and other places, to have a good idea of what society would be with atheists in power: it's not pretty!

Atheists can be just as intolerant as religionists, and an atheist country has nothing to envy from a theist state.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#11977 Feb 3, 2013
Many out to death during this were atheists themselves.

Care to humiliate yourself more?
insidesecrets wrote:
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So was the evidence in Stalin's "show trials" that resulted in the deaths of thousands and not just fourteen women and five men.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#11978 Feb 3, 2013
You idiots really have to really dig deep and desperately grasp at straws.

Ask your preacher what to say next.
insidesecrets wrote:
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Atheism is a cult of reason.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_Reason
What they haven't figured out yet is that their elevation above the ignorant masses is not nearly as great as they imagine, since their theories are slender reeds, not marble columns.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#11979 Feb 3, 2013
Creationist site blather. So you think the earth is 6000 years old I see.
insidesecrets wrote:
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"One day [Stalin] and some friends ... lay on the grass in town talking about the injustice of there being rich and poor when he amazed all of them by suddenly saying,'God's not unjust, he doesn't actually exist. We've been deceived. If God existed, he'd had made the world more just.'[His friend exclaimed:]'How can you say such things!'...'I'll lend you a book and you'll see.' He presented [his friend] with a copy of Darwin." - Simon Sebag Montefiore

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#11980 Feb 3, 2013
So why do you hate non believers so much?
rio wrote:
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Atheism is at the core of marxism, I can tell you.
Marxism-Leninism had the suppression of religion as one of its fundamental task in its programme, and its replacement by the ideal of communism.
So, we just have to look at the fail attempt at socialist utopia in USSR and other places, to have a good idea of what society would be with atheists in power: it's not pretty!
Atheists can be just as intolerant as religionists, and an atheist country has nothing to envy from a theist state.
rio

London, UK

#11981 Feb 3, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Witch burning has been a Christian crime for centuries. Even to this day in some countries so called witches are put to death for angering Jesus.
The crimes of Stalin and Pol Pott and North Korea were in the name of totalitarianism. Not one of any of these examples did anyone say, in the name of atheism you die. Unlike the Salem witch trials, spanish inquisition, Nazi Germany, where indeed they were put to death in the name of Jesus.
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Oh yeah, I like your style.

So, crimes committed by Christians are always motivated by their religion, but crimes committed by atheists have nothing to do with their philosophy; then, it's purely political.

Of course, we should have thought about that one ...

How convenient, eh?

Trouble is that the arrest, jailing and deportation of Orthodox priests was decided by Lenin at the first St Petersburg soviet in 1917 "in line with our marxist principles" (sic), and "to uproot the church from Russians' daily life" (sic) and "to punish the church for its support of tsarism" (sic).

Most, if not all, of the Politburo members were atheist and hellbend in imposing an atheist state in Russia. It only got worst with time...

Like they often say "Those who forget the past are condemned to live it again".
We have been there, and we have seen what it is.

I much prefer a country where plenty of different opinions exist, with none of them in charge.
An atheist country is my vision of hell ...

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