Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

[Very Cynical Person]

insidesecrets wrote:

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Atheism is a cult. It hasn't taken hold however because it requires a belief in the irrational. Any philosophy based on the idea that something comes from nothing is a philosphy of absurdity.

Well then religious beliefs in a god that made everything falls right into that something from nothing category, after all most atheist believe in evolution where life evolved from something and the religious believe life evolved out of a mind .

[rio]

Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:

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Probably because it had already faded into oblivion.
ROFL!

Not by a long shot, I can tell you.

Keep taking your dreams for reality.

Religionists (and I am not one of them BTW) are still the majority on the planet.

[Bob of Quantum-Faith]

insidesecrets wrote:

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Atheism is a cult.

No--it's not. Atheism has no belief, it has no creed, it has no motto, it has no "holy book"-- none of that.

The sum-total of atheism is this: do not belief in gods.

That's it.

To qualify as a cult? You MUST have stupid beliefs (such as the BuyBull, or Zombie-Jewsus, or a Holy Goat who raped Mary).

THAT is a cult-- of which you are no doubt a member.

insidesecrets wrote:

It hasn't taken hold however because it requires a belief in the irrational.

Lie.

1) atheism is the fastest growing category in the world, in excess of 20% of the world's population, and growing.

It exceeds all brands of Genuine Christianity™, except for Genuine Catholics™(but they are all pedophiles anyway, so they don't count, right?)

More to the point? As I already pointed out?

Athiesm has no beliefs of any kind. It's summary LACK OF BELIEF is it's single defining characteristic: NO belief in gods.

insidesecrets wrote:

Any philosophy based on the idea that something comes from nothing is a philosphy of absurdity.

Indeed: your Genuine Christianity™ fits your final line perfectly.

And it IS a philosophy of the absurd: your terrorist-god creates a world, populates it with idiots, which he then drowns, and lets it re-grow through incest, and then splits himself to kill himself, and proceeds to raise himself from the not-really-dead state, in order to pay himself back for the sins he, himself created in the first place.

That's beyond absurd, actually.

But that IS what you call Genuine Christianity™

[Bob of Quantum-Faith]

rio wrote:

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I think you are barking up the wrong tree here; I am not defending religion, just passing on observations. People like religious ceremonies, and many would not break from these traditions, that it irritates you or not.

I could not possibly care less, if you want to attach dead chicken-feet to a baby's rattle and dance on the graves of your dead in your underwear.

If that is what it takes to make your pathetic life have a semblance of meaning? Have at it.

It bothers me not at all.

And you did write your "point" as if such things were extremely important to you.

rio wrote:

I am not talking about myself, but in most families, christening, marrage and burial in church/temple are important events, they will not give up, even if their "faith" faded long time away.

It certainly sounds like projection of your own deeply disturbing need for "cosmic significance".

rio wrote:

Tax exemption on religious ground (which is what yopu imply) maybe something you have in the States, but for us in Britain, it's a completely alien concept.

Yet, you still have state-supported religion...... so you are hardly free from guilt, are you?

[Bob of Quantum-Faith]

rio wrote:

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Not by a long shot, I can tell you.
Keep taking your dreams for reality.
Religionists (and I am not one of them BTW) are still the majority on the planet.

Sure, sure-- you keep on lying like this, if it makes your religious life have some pretend meaning.

If you are not religious? Why are you trying to very hard to defend it, hmmmm?

Pardon me--but I've seen all flavors of "strategy" by religious-types, trying to pretend they aren't "religious".

The very tone of your posts makes it pretty clear, you're highly sympathetic to religion, if not an actual participant.

Which makes you an enabler of religion.

[rio]

Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:

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Sure, sure-- you keep on lying like this, if it makes your religious life have some pretend meaning.
If you are not religious? Why are you trying to very hard to defend it, hmmmm?
Pardon me--but I've seen all flavors of "strategy" by religious-types, trying to pretend they aren't "religious".
The very tone of your posts makes it pretty clear, you're highly sympathetic to religion, if not an actual participant.
Which makes you an enabler of religion.

I am not religious and I don't believe in religion, but I tolerate most as harmless expressions of some people's spirituality.

You are a very jumpy sort of atheist, who seems to see the enemy everywhere. That's bordering on paranoia.
I hope you check under your bed at night! LOL
For you lot, everyone is lying, deluded and pretending.
You, atheist activists, don't seem to be a happy lot: just an observation...

I am very sympathetic to people wanting to keep their traditions, and I wouldn't dream of eradicating religions, as you atheist fanatics do. Religions don't bother me, and atheists neither, unless they start preaching to me like you try to do!

[Roopie]

Already?

[insidesecrets]

Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:

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No--it's not. Atheism has no belief, it has no creed, it has no motto, it has no "holy book"-- none of that.
The sum-total of atheism is this: do not belief in gods.
That's it.
To qualify as a cult? You MUST have stupid beliefs (such as the BuyBull, or Zombie-Jewsus, or a Holy Goat who raped Mary).
THAT is a cult-- of which you are no doubt a member.
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Lie.
1) atheism is the fastest growing category in the world, in excess of 20% of the world's population, and growing.
It exceeds all brands of Genuine Christianity™, except for Genuine Catholics™(but they are all pedophiles anyway, so they don't count, right?)
More to the point? As I already pointed out?
Athiesm has no beliefs of any kind. It's summary LACK OF BELIEF is it's single defining characteristic: NO belief in gods.
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Indeed: your Genuine Christianity™ fits your final line perfectly.
And it IS a philosophy of the absurd: your terrorist-god creates a world, populates it with idiots, which he then drowns, and lets it re-grow through incest, and then splits himself to kill himself, and proceeds to raise himself from the not-really-dead state, in order to pay himself back for the sins he, himself created in the first place.
That's beyond absurd, actually.
But that IS what you call Genuine Christianity™

You are worse than a rabid Jehovah Witness! Attacking a belief in God doesn't solidify your disbelief. It simply makes you a quarrelsome, intolerant, irrational whiner.

Religion in the 21st is no longer in charge. You have nothing to fear. Industry is in charge and propelled by corrupt science. Since the atheist does not believe that God exists then he cannot lay our modern nightmare (climate change) at the feet of the Abrahamic religions.

[rio]

insidesecrets wrote:

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You are worse than a rabid Jehovah Witness! Attacking a belief in God doesn't solidify your disbelief. It simply makes you a quarrelsome, intolerant, irrational whiner.
Religion in the 21st is no longer in charge. You have nothing to fear. Industry is in charge and propelled by corrupt science. Since the atheist does not believe that God exists then he cannot lay our modern nightmare (climate change) at the feet of the Abrahamic religions.

Exactly!!
I just cannot believe the intolerent fanaticism of these atheist activists. What do they fear now?

[rio]

Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:

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Yet, you still have state-supported religion...... so you are hardly free from guilt, are you?

In Britain?
Yes, we have the Church of England officially as state religion, with our monarch as its leader.

But the CoE doesn't benefit from any special favour compared to other denominations and supports itself without any subvension from the public purse. It get the same tax breaks as any other charities.

Also, what guilt am I supposed to feel, and for what?

[rio]

Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:

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Which makes you an enabler of religion.

If you mean that, unlike you, I tolerate religions and don't seek to destroy them, I plead guilty.

I don't feel any right to stop people in their beliefs, which are mostly harmless.

[Bob of Quantum-Faith]

rio wrote:

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I am not religious and I don't believe in religion, but I tolerate most as harmless expressions of some people's spirituality.
You are a very jumpy sort of atheist, who seems to see the enemy everywhere. That's bordering on paranoia.
I hope you check under your bed at night! LOL
For you lot, everyone is lying, deluded and pretending.
You, atheist activists, don't seem to be a happy lot: just an observation...
I am very sympathetic to people wanting to keep their traditions, and I wouldn't dream of eradicating religions, as you atheist fanatics do. Religions don't bother me, and atheists neither, unless they start preaching to me like you try to do!

No, I'm not jumpy-- I'm experienced.

And I suspect you are just another lying god-robot.

[Bob of Quantum-Faith]

insidesecrets wrote:

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You are worse than a rabid Jehovah Witness! Attacking a belief in God doesn't solidify your disbelief. It simply makes you a quarrelsome, intolerant, irrational whiner.
Religion in the 21st is no longer in charge. You have nothing to fear. Industry is in charge and propelled by corrupt science. Since the atheist does not believe that God exists then he cannot lay our modern nightmare (climate change) at the feet of the Abrahamic religions.

No, I'm experienced at godbot persecution.

For example: you god-robots are hell-bent on stripping women's rights in the US.

For example: you hategodbots are always against equal rights for gay folk-- you would strip all rights away, if you could.

For example: you hategodbots are tying to push your evil creationism into public education.

I'd say you hate-filled theists are still very much in charge.

[Bob of Quantum-Faith]

rio wrote:

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Exactly!!
I just cannot believe the intolerent fanaticism of these atheist activists. What do they fear now?

You don't live here in the US.

The hategodbots such as the one you so much agree with (proving pretty much what a lying little god-lover you are) are bent on forcing their horrid beliefs into law.

Against the constitution, of course.

[Bob of Quantum-Faith]

rio wrote:

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If you mean that, unlike you, I tolerate religions and don't seek to destroy them, I plead guilty.
I don't feel any right to stop people in their beliefs, which are mostly harmless.

You're just another lying godbot, pretending.

I've seen your ilk on Topix in the past.

You aren't fooling anyone.

[rio]

Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:

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You don't live here in the US.
The hategodbots such as the one you so much agree with (proving pretty much what a lying little god-lover you are) are bent on forcing their horrid beliefs into law.
Against the constitution, of course.

That's right, I do not live in the USA, thanks god for that !(pun intended to annoy you!!)

What on hearts the "hategodbots" have forced on you in America?

So, for you tolerating someone is agreeing with him? To me it's just being plainly civilised.

Wow, I am so glad to live in a tolerant country!
Anti-religion fanatics soiund just as bad as religiuous fanatics.

Smell the coffee and get a life!!!

[rio]

Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:

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You're just another lying godbot, pretending.
I've seen your ilk on Topix in the past.
You aren't fooling anyone.

Yeah, whatever you say...

[albtraum]

01Justsayin wrote:

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Atheism - The theory or BELIEF that God does not exist.(google it) There most certainly is scientific evidence that God is real. Look it up. I ain't doing your work for you. However there is NO SCIENTIFIC evidence to prove that God does not exist. It's not possible. You just can't do it. The mere BELIEF that God does not exist is a BELIEF within itself. Ergo you are a hypocrite.

Okey Dokey then. Come up with just ONE scientific proof of a god.
Don't just duck out again, don't dodge once you've made the claim.
Cite one reliable scientific proof and I'll research it as best as I can.

[albtraum]

01Justsayin wrote:

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Sheesh!
Here
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/richa...
And here
http://realtruth.org/articles/070601-006-teog...
And here
http://www.enlightennext.org/magazine/j11/gos...
And here
http://scientificproofofgod.net/
And if I knew how to post the YouTube videos on here I would post those too.
You are free to choose to believe whatever you want, but don't say the proof isn't there. Because it is.
Now can someone PLEASE answer my teeny tiny little question: What proof or evidence do you have to support your BELIEF that God does not exist?

Oh dear, this is all very pathetic. To scientifically prove a god, we just have to redefine science (outdated definitions) or study Einstein (who was NOT a theist) or drop science altogether and accept one man's definition of 'logic'....I really thought....nah, nevermind.

[The_Box]

insidesecrets wrote:

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Atheism is a cult.

Yup. One of those cults that displays no traits of a cult.

1. the leader is charismatic and often militaristically demanding
Nope. No leader.

2. the leader is always right
Nope. No leader.

3. elitism, the leaders treated as royalty or a sense of awe, hierarchical, authoritarian power structure
Nope. No leader.

4. lower members get no respect, or get abused
Nope. No hierarchy.

5. leader is not held accountable for his actions or the actions of his authority structure
Nope. No leader.

6. leader will not tolerate or receive criticism, but leader criticizes all others
Nope. No leader.

7. there is no exit
Nope. There isn't even a collection of members, much less any enforcement of membership.

8. if members exit they are considered rebellious, out of the will of a higher power or the leader
Nope. No one cares if people leave atheism and no leader.

9. members do not have any association with members that have left the group
Nope. No shunning.

10. there are no graduates from the “program” or group, just deserters or evil people
Nope. None viewed that way.

11. there is cult speak (a language many others can not understand)
Nope. No special language.

12. personal attacks on critics or those who are not in the group
Nope. Arguments made based on issues at hand.

13. solidarity within themselves, no outside allegiance or association
Nope. No solidarity.

14. use of guilt to manipulate members
Nope.

15. the leaders of group are self absorbed
Nope. No leaders.

16. instant community
Nope. Very little community at all.

17. members unable to tell the truth
Nope.

18. money grubbing
Nope. No money involved at all.

19. newcomers don’t “think right” and need to be trained
Nope. No training.

20. system of punishment and reward
Nope. No punishments or rewards.

21. intrusiveness
Nope. No intrusion whatsoever.

22. sense of powerless, dependency, covert fear, guilt
Nope.

23. members and leaders are imbalanced or mentally ill
Nope.

24. thought stopping language, clichés, or slogans
Nope.

25. demands of ultra loyalty or ultra trust in the groups process and others
Nope.