Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Apr 25, 2012 Full story: Psychology Today 23,565

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11765 Feb 1, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
Atheist just hate this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =WPPlGFh6OpQXX&autoplay=1
We do? I've performed that song live. It's a great song that sounds as modern today as when it was recorded.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#11766 Feb 1, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Two opinions zero facts.:) anyways you left out the part in this myth where Elijah had each and every non believer in Yahweh killed after the magic trick.
Why did you leave out the wholesale slaughter like that? It is after all what your god commanded.
Your same god sent bears to maul children for calling his prophet bald head.
<quoted text>
Good point. I'd forgotten about that one. Jeepers, what a terrible book, and they teach that stuff to give to kids.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11767 Feb 1, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
Ya know, I have had time to take a step back and calm down a little. I allowed myself to get angry earlier, and I'm just not gonna let myself stoop to that level again.
Great. There is already too much hatred for unbelievers in the Christian community. It isn't your world any more.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#11768 Feb 1, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Great. There is already too much hatred for unbelievers in the Christian community. It isn't your world any more.
Its that darn book. It teaches them to hate other people. If it tells you that the majority of people are no better than fuel for hellfire, then you no longer view them as human beings. Thats one reason why believers has such a low opinion of non christians.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11769 Feb 1, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
Please feel free to challenge my beliefs. I have nothing to hide. All that I ask is that you do so with respect because that is precisely how I'm gonna treat you.
Respect?

I don't respect your beliefs. I don't respect faith, and I especially don't respect Christianity or its church.

When did that church ever respect unbelievers? Now you want it from us? Christianity deserves no respect because it offers none.

After centuries of calling us fools, vile, abominations, the moral equivalent of murderers and whoremongers, and fit to be dropped into fire still conscious, what exactly are you hoping for now?

Sorry, but I've waited a long time to be able to express how I feel about your religion - how it has maligned, dehumanized and marginalized people like me for the audacity to question it. At long last, we have a safe way to tell you what we think, and in my case at least, respect is not a part of the message.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11770 Feb 1, 2013
EdSed wrote:
The R.C. church and other religious groups haven't yet realised that their game is over. Many people are no longer even willing to pay lip-service to the church ...
There you go. Nicely stated.

This is a wonderful video:
[Your faith is a joke ]

And another:
http://www.youtube.com/watch... [Why does faith deserve respect?]

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11771 Feb 1, 2013
Adam wrote:
<quoted text>
Its that darn book. It teaches them to hate other people. If it tells you that the majority of people are no better than fuel for hellfire, then you no longer view them as human beings. Thats one reason why believers has such a low opinion of non christians.
Agreed.

It's time for good people to take a stand against this toxic institution. Christian doctrine is atheophobic, homophobic, misanthropic, sexually repressive, and antiscientific. It promotes guilt, shame, blame, fear, strife, and ignorance. It talks about love but teaches scapegoating. It talks about accountability but offers itself cheap forgiveness on demand. It talks about mercy as well as a hell from which there is no hope of escape or comfort.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#11772 Feb 1, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
Proof that God exists:
1) TRANSCENDENTAL ARGUMENT, a.k.a. PRESUPPOSITIONALIST (I)
(1) If reason exists then God exists.
(2) Reason exists.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
2) COSMOLOGICAL ARGUMENT, a.k.a. FIRST CAUSE ARGUMENT (I)
(1) If I say something must have a cause, it has a cause.
(2) I say the universe must have a cause.
(3) Therefore, the universe has a cause.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
3) ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) I define God to be X.
(2) Since I can conceive of X, X must exist.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
4) ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) I can conceive of a perfect God.
(2) One of the qualities of perfection is existence.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
5) MODAL ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
(1) God is either necessary or unnecessary.
(2) God is not unnecessary, therefore God must be necessary.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
6) ARGUMENT FROM DESIGN, a.k.a. GOD OF THE GAPS, a.k.a. TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) Check out the world/universe/giraffe. Isn't it complex?
(2) Only God could have made them so complex.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
7) ARGUMENT FROM BEAUTY, a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) Isn't that baby/sunset/flower/tree beautiful?
(2) Only God could have made them so beautiful.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
This post (and the next one) show you are either a Poe or that you cannot read for meaning. What you quoted is a *parody* of the arguments used to prove the existence of God. It was a *joke*. It was showing what is *wrong* with the standard arguments for the existence of God.

Now, go back and *read* what you copied and pasted. Think about what it is saying. If you cannot see that it is a *joke*, then you are incapable of understanding anything other than simple, declarative statements.

On the other hand, if you are a Poe, bravo...you did well.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#11773 Feb 1, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously...this is a joke - right?
It was originally. Either our friend can't read or is a Poe.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#11774 Feb 1, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
Proof of God's existence (continued)
8) ARGUMENT FROM MIRACLES (I)
(1) My aunt had cancer.
(2) The doctors gave her all these horrible treatments.
(3) My aunt prayed to God and now she doesn't have cancer.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
9) MORAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) Person X, a well-known atheist, was morally inferior to the rest of us.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
10) MORAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) In my younger days I was a cursing, drinking, smoking, gambling, child-molesting, thieving, murdering, bed-wetting bastard.
(2) That all changed once I became religious.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
11) ARGUMENT FROM CREATION, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL INCREDULITY (I)
(1) If evolution is false, then creationism is true, and therefore God exists.
(2) Evolution can't be true, since I lack the mental capacity to understand it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be uncomfortable.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
12) ARGUMENT FROM FEAR
(1) If there is no God then we're all going to not exist after we die.
(2) I'm afraid of that.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
13) ARGUMENT FROM THE BIBLE
(1)[arbitrary passage from OT]
(2)[arbitrary passage from NT]
(3) Therefore, God exists.
14) ARGUMENT FROM INTELLIGENCE
(1) Look, there's really no point in me trying to explain the whole thing to you stupid atheists; it's too complicated for you to understand. God exists whether you like it or not.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
Seriously, you can't see the irony dripping from the pages? Read what you post.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#11775 Feb 1, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
Proof that God exists (continued further)
15) ARGUMENT FROM UNINTELLIGENCE
(1) Okay, I don't pretend to be as intelligent as you guys — you're obviously very well read. But I read the Bible, and nothing you say can convince me that God does not exist. I feel him in my heart, and you can feel him too, if you'll just ask him into your life. "For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son into the world, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish from the earth." John 3:16.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
16) ARGUMENT FROM BELIEF
(1) If God exists, then I should believe in Him.
(2) I believe in God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
17) ARGUMENT FROM INTIMIDATION, a.k.a. TOMAS DE TORQUEMADA'S ARGUMENT
(1) See this bonfire?
(2) Therefore, God exists.
18) PARENTAL ARGUMENT
(1) My mommy and daddy told me that God exists.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
19) ARGUMENT FROM NUMBERS
(1) Billions of people believe in God.
(2) They can't all be wrong, can they?
(3) Therefore, God exists.
20) ARGUMENT FROM ABSURDITY
(1) Maranathra!
(2) Therefore, God exists.
21) ARGUMENT FROM ECONOMY
(1) God exists, you bastards!
(2) Therefore, God exists.
22) BOATWRIGHT'S ARGUMENT
(1) Ha ha ha.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
23) ARGUMENT FROM INTERNET AUTHORITY
(1) There is a website that successfully argues for the existence of God.
(2) Here is the URL.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
24) ARGUMENT FROM INCOMPREHENSIBILITY
(1) Flabble glurk zoom boink blubba snurgleschnortz ping!
(2) No one has ever refuted (1).
(3) Therefore, God exists.
Masterful examples of religious 'reasoning'.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#11776 Feb 1, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Modern medicine does have its advantages. Though you can't guarantee that someone will get sick at any age let alone after the age of 20. There are too many variables. In order to be able to predict every one of them, you would have to be omnipresent.
Your god has failed to heal one person. There is zero record of "faith" or "prayer" healing anyone. None. Science heals, your god kills, yet you revere your god and bash science. Your faith is weak, if you truly had faith, you'd walk into the desert with nothing, not even clothing, and wander there for 40 days and 40 nights. I know you won't, ever, because you know your religion is nothing but a delusion.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#11777 Feb 1, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Pharmaceuticals have a much greater application than that. When was the last time you saw deforming rheumatoid arthritis?:
http://www.sciencephoto.com/image/251070/350w...
This was common when I began my practice in the early eighties. It's malpractice to allow that to happen today.
Ah yeah, but I don't know as much on the subject as you do so I do expect you to be able to correct me a lot on the matter. ;) I can only speak from personal experience and what little I have managed to study on my own, which probably shies in comparison to what you know on the matter.

Since: Feb 13

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#11778 Feb 1, 2013
dunno bout this one

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#11779 Feb 1, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>No, you're just disagreeing with facts.
Honestly whatever I choose to agree with or not agree with isn't the real issue here. Truthfully, I am entitled to believe any way I choose. Those choices, which are my own, have absolutely no affect on you. Just like yours have no affect on me. They shouldn't bother you so much.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#11780 Feb 1, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
There you go. Nicely stated.
This is a wonderful video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =P4dSiHqpULkXX [Your faith is a joke ]
And another:
http://www.youtube.com/watch... [Why does faith deserve respect?]
I broadly agree with many of Pat Condell's views, but not necessarily the way he expresses them.

Do you know why he is so averse to Dutch courts? "..faith disqualifies reason the way a Dutch criminal court discredits disqualifies truth and witnesses"?(3mins :30secs)

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#11781 Feb 1, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>So basically you have no response to the post, but you are willing to act like a even bigger dipshit because I responded in kind to yours?

Anger is not my way, but please understand that when and if I ever have any anger, I will be the one to decide where to guide it to.

Reach for it, whatever you've got, bring it and I will still treat you like a speciman to either be examined, or maybe even mocked.
*chuckles* Which is precisely your problem. I am not a specimen. I am not intended to be examined under anyone's microscope. I am a living breathing human being. I have my own thoughts, my own emotions, my own beliefs. None of which make me a dipshit. Quite frankly I find your hostility to be uncalled for and utterly unenlightened. Insults are the lowest form of dialog. Which is exactly why I'm not choosing to resort to them. I'm not low. So, yeah, I very much so responded to your post. Was it with facts? No Then again I don't need them to describe why I believe what I believe. That should be enough. If you can't be okay with the idea of someone thinking or believing contrary to you then that's really your problem isn't it? Guide your anger in any way you choose. That's all you. It still has no business on my doorstep.

Since: Jan 13

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#11782 Feb 1, 2013
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>I've agreed to nothing.
Fortunately for you, you don't have to. Nor do I. Moving on.
Thinking

Saffron Walden, UK

#11783 Feb 1, 2013
You posted that zombies can be caused by witchcraft.
I think, with the access to education we have today, that makes you a moron.
01Justsayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Honestly whatever I choose to agree with or not agree with isn't the real issue here. Truthfully, I am entitled to believe any way I choose. Those choices, which are my own, have absolutely no affect on you. Just like yours have no affect on me. They shouldn't bother you so much.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#11784 Feb 1, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>So no evidence to prove any of it? That is what we have come to expect. It seems the repetition is endless, some diversity would be nice. Could you maybe act like a bible believer and tell us why your god would need to threaten parents with being forced to et their children, or why he just didn't not put the Satan/snake in the garden with his innocent children? He knew what was going to happen, and he decided that he loved those children enough to hand about 90% of them, or so to the Satan snake later.

Of course he shows himself .... in toast and in the book. No whhere else ever.
I don't make it a point to speak for God. Or anyone else for that matter. I can only speak for myself. I don't feel the need to analyze him. There is no scientific process to belief. It can't be dissected or analyzed under a microscope. You either believe or you don't. It's your choice to make either way.

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