Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24182 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11755 Feb 1, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
I am saying that atheists are as guilty of committing atrocities as you claim Christians are.
KittenKoder wrote:
Yes, atheists with totalitarian agendas, but not all atheists. Or do we blame all christians for the witch hunts, Crusades, Inquisition ... and many others?
He's making a category error comparing atheists and Christians. Atheists' counterparts are theists, and Christian is only one class of theist.

He's also being dishonest characterizing atheism using the worst variation of it.

We're secular humanistic atheists, unlike the doctrinaire, totalitarian atheists with whom we are being equated. Conflating the atrocities of Stalin or Pol Pot with secular humanism, an unrelated type of atheist, is like criticizing Jainism using 9/11.

This religion and its culture of dishonesty and calumny can't die fast enough for me.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11756 Feb 1, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
We're living a lot longer, all thanks to medical science.
insidesecrets wrote:
You believe what modern medicine wants you to believe.
That's quite a statement coming from a theist.

Are you contradicting or challenging her claim?
KittenKoder wrote:
Repairing the physical body is not the same as healing it. Ameliorateing diseases is not the same as curing them. Prolonging life through the use of drugs is not the same as living one's last years in good health.
Straw man.

What is relevant to Kitten's comment is that repairing the physical body is better than being unable to. Ameliorating disease is a huge achievement compared to being unable to impact it at all. And prolonging life through the use of drugs is better than dying sooner.

Are you one of those Christians that demeans the achievements of man to promote the Christian position that man is worthless and totally dependent on a god? Do you resent reading about man's triumphs, especially secular man?

Because I'm from the anti-human defamation league, and we're here to oppose that pernicious and demotivational message. Man is a truly remarkable ape - the closest thing to a god that we know of.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#11757 Feb 1, 2013
You have been properly warned about posting walls of text spam. Reported.
MUQ wrote:
Strange Unanimity:
1. Do you not think that this is a strange behaviour.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#11758 Feb 1, 2013
http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2013/01/nss...
The R.C. church and other religious groups haven't yet realised that their game is over. Many people are no longer even willing to pay lip-service to the church and this idea that they can dictate people's relationships and what a marriage is and is not won't be tolerated indefinitely.

Religion = superstition and has no special place in education any more.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#11759 Feb 1, 2013
I am sure he thighed her an ancient Muslim, christian and Jewish tradition.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Moohumud force-married her when she was 6.
He claims he waited until she was 9... but Moohumud was also illiterate, so I doubt he could count, either.
Putting his claims of waiting in serious doubt. It's more likely that she didn't reach puberty until 9, when his repeated sexual attacks would finally yield offspring.
He was one sick f*** for sure. No wonder Islam is so Effed up.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#11760 Feb 1, 2013

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11761 Feb 1, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
You cannot paint all Christians with the same broad brush. Not all Christians burned witches at the stake, not all of them participated in the Crusades and Inquisition.
Are you kidding me? Why did you post this if not to smear all atheists - including secular humanists - with the deeds of unrelated ideologies?:

"The historical record of collective atheism is thousands of times worse on an annual basis than Christianity’s worst and most infamous bloodbath, the Spanish Inquisition."
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...

And so what if not all Christians burned witches? Do you all need to light one up for it to be a problem? Should it matter to me that only half of you would burn me?

Finally, can you name one society in history where Christians had the power to burn or impale unbelievers with impunity, but elected not to use it? Can you name one instance of Christians saying, "Yes, we could burn people alive that we don't approve of, but we choose not to do it, because that would be barbaric and sadistic"?

Me, neither.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#11762 Feb 1, 2013
It's like he went all Derek on us copy and pasting walls of text spam instead of answering a question.

Opinions are not facts no matter how much the believer wants them to be.
Hedonist wrote:
<quoted text>
Now you're plagerizing WordPress opinion pieces. Exactly how low will you stoop?
And this one talks about ethics. Apparently you have none.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11763 Feb 1, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
Um, actually, it's not "using drugs" that extends life, it's the fact that ailments which were death sentences can now be taken care of with quick surgeries, or occasionally a medication if it's viral or bacterial.
Pharmaceuticals have a much greater application than that. When was the last time you saw deforming rheumatoid arthritis?:
http://www.sciencephoto.com/image/251070/350w...

This was common when I began my practice in the early eighties. It's malpractice to allow that to happen today.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#11764 Feb 1, 2013
Two opinions zero facts.:) anyways you left out the part in this myth where Elijah had each and every non believer in Yahweh killed after the magic trick.

Why did you leave out the wholesale slaughter like that? It is after all what your god commanded.

Your same god sent bears to maul children for calling his prophet bald head.
01Justsayin wrote:
<quoted text>
My opinion on what you said earlier is this:
1 Kings 18: 21-39 (bear with me)
"Elijah went before the people and said,'How long will you waver between two opinions?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11765 Feb 1, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
Atheist just hate this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =WPPlGFh6OpQXX&autoplay=1
We do? I've performed that song live. It's a great song that sounds as modern today as when it was recorded.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#11766 Feb 1, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Two opinions zero facts.:) anyways you left out the part in this myth where Elijah had each and every non believer in Yahweh killed after the magic trick.
Why did you leave out the wholesale slaughter like that? It is after all what your god commanded.
Your same god sent bears to maul children for calling his prophet bald head.
<quoted text>
Good point. I'd forgotten about that one. Jeepers, what a terrible book, and they teach that stuff to give to kids.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11767 Feb 1, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
Ya know, I have had time to take a step back and calm down a little. I allowed myself to get angry earlier, and I'm just not gonna let myself stoop to that level again.
Great. There is already too much hatred for unbelievers in the Christian community. It isn't your world any more.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#11768 Feb 1, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Great. There is already too much hatred for unbelievers in the Christian community. It isn't your world any more.
Its that darn book. It teaches them to hate other people. If it tells you that the majority of people are no better than fuel for hellfire, then you no longer view them as human beings. Thats one reason why believers has such a low opinion of non christians.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11769 Feb 1, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
Please feel free to challenge my beliefs. I have nothing to hide. All that I ask is that you do so with respect because that is precisely how I'm gonna treat you.
Respect?

I don't respect your beliefs. I don't respect faith, and I especially don't respect Christianity or its church.

When did that church ever respect unbelievers? Now you want it from us? Christianity deserves no respect because it offers none.

After centuries of calling us fools, vile, abominations, the moral equivalent of murderers and whoremongers, and fit to be dropped into fire still conscious, what exactly are you hoping for now?

Sorry, but I've waited a long time to be able to express how I feel about your religion - how it has maligned, dehumanized and marginalized people like me for the audacity to question it. At long last, we have a safe way to tell you what we think, and in my case at least, respect is not a part of the message.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11770 Feb 1, 2013
EdSed wrote:
The R.C. church and other religious groups haven't yet realised that their game is over. Many people are no longer even willing to pay lip-service to the church ...
There you go. Nicely stated.

This is a wonderful video:
[Your faith is a joke ]

And another:
http://www.youtube.com/watch... [Why does faith deserve respect?]

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11771 Feb 1, 2013
Adam wrote:
<quoted text>
Its that darn book. It teaches them to hate other people. If it tells you that the majority of people are no better than fuel for hellfire, then you no longer view them as human beings. Thats one reason why believers has such a low opinion of non christians.
Agreed.

It's time for good people to take a stand against this toxic institution. Christian doctrine is atheophobic, homophobic, misanthropic, sexually repressive, and antiscientific. It promotes guilt, shame, blame, fear, strife, and ignorance. It talks about love but teaches scapegoating. It talks about accountability but offers itself cheap forgiveness on demand. It talks about mercy as well as a hell from which there is no hope of escape or comfort.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#11772 Feb 1, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
Proof that God exists:
1) TRANSCENDENTAL ARGUMENT, a.k.a. PRESUPPOSITIONALIST (I)
(1) If reason exists then God exists.
(2) Reason exists.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
2) COSMOLOGICAL ARGUMENT, a.k.a. FIRST CAUSE ARGUMENT (I)
(1) If I say something must have a cause, it has a cause.
(2) I say the universe must have a cause.
(3) Therefore, the universe has a cause.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
3) ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) I define God to be X.
(2) Since I can conceive of X, X must exist.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
4) ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) I can conceive of a perfect God.
(2) One of the qualities of perfection is existence.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
5) MODAL ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
(1) God is either necessary or unnecessary.
(2) God is not unnecessary, therefore God must be necessary.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
6) ARGUMENT FROM DESIGN, a.k.a. GOD OF THE GAPS, a.k.a. TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) Check out the world/universe/giraffe. Isn't it complex?
(2) Only God could have made them so complex.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
7) ARGUMENT FROM BEAUTY, a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) Isn't that baby/sunset/flower/tree beautiful?
(2) Only God could have made them so beautiful.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
This post (and the next one) show you are either a Poe or that you cannot read for meaning. What you quoted is a *parody* of the arguments used to prove the existence of God. It was a *joke*. It was showing what is *wrong* with the standard arguments for the existence of God.

Now, go back and *read* what you copied and pasted. Think about what it is saying. If you cannot see that it is a *joke*, then you are incapable of understanding anything other than simple, declarative statements.

On the other hand, if you are a Poe, bravo...you did well.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#11773 Feb 1, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously...this is a joke - right?
It was originally. Either our friend can't read or is a Poe.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#11774 Feb 1, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
Proof of God's existence (continued)
8) ARGUMENT FROM MIRACLES (I)
(1) My aunt had cancer.
(2) The doctors gave her all these horrible treatments.
(3) My aunt prayed to God and now she doesn't have cancer.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
9) MORAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) Person X, a well-known atheist, was morally inferior to the rest of us.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
10) MORAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) In my younger days I was a cursing, drinking, smoking, gambling, child-molesting, thieving, murdering, bed-wetting bastard.
(2) That all changed once I became religious.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
11) ARGUMENT FROM CREATION, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL INCREDULITY (I)
(1) If evolution is false, then creationism is true, and therefore God exists.
(2) Evolution can't be true, since I lack the mental capacity to understand it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be uncomfortable.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
12) ARGUMENT FROM FEAR
(1) If there is no God then we're all going to not exist after we die.
(2) I'm afraid of that.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
13) ARGUMENT FROM THE BIBLE
(1)[arbitrary passage from OT]
(2)[arbitrary passage from NT]
(3) Therefore, God exists.
14) ARGUMENT FROM INTELLIGENCE
(1) Look, there's really no point in me trying to explain the whole thing to you stupid atheists; it's too complicated for you to understand. God exists whether you like it or not.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
Seriously, you can't see the irony dripping from the pages? Read what you post.

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