Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

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My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11702 Jan 31, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
"I attack this book because it is the enemy of human liberty -- the greatest obstruction across the highway of human progress." - Robert Green Ingersoll
“We would be 1,500 years ahead if it hadn't been for the church dragging science back by its coattails and burning our best minds at the stake.”- Catherine Fahringer
"Religion prevents our children from having a rational education; religion prevents us from removing the fundamental causes of war; religion prevents us from teaching the ethic of scientific cooperation in place of the old fierce doctrines of sin and punishment. It is possible that mankind is on the threshold of a golden age; but, if so, it will be necessary first to slay the dragon that guards the door, and this dragon is religion." - Bertrand Russell
What has Christianity given the world of value?
Oooh! Oooh! Can I answer?

It has given us... red wine during church! Yaaay, wine.:D

What? Not all of them? Too bad.

That would've been something at least ...

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#11703 Jan 31, 2013
Proof that God exists:

1) TRANSCENDENTAL ARGUMENT, a.k.a. PRESUPPOSITIONALIST (I)
(1) If reason exists then God exists.
(2) Reason exists.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

2) COSMOLOGICAL ARGUMENT, a.k.a. FIRST CAUSE ARGUMENT (I)
(1) If I say something must have a cause, it has a cause.
(2) I say the universe must have a cause.
(3) Therefore, the universe has a cause.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

3) ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) I define God to be X.
(2) Since I can conceive of X, X must exist.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

4) ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) I can conceive of a perfect God.
(2) One of the qualities of perfection is existence.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

5) MODAL ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
(1) God is either necessary or unnecessary.
(2) God is not unnecessary, therefore God must be necessary.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

6) ARGUMENT FROM DESIGN, a.k.a. GOD OF THE GAPS, a.k.a. TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) Check out the world/universe/giraffe. Isn't it complex?
(2) Only God could have made them so complex.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

7) ARGUMENT FROM BEAUTY, a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) Isn't that baby/sunset/flower/tree beautiful?
(2) Only God could have made them so beautiful.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

Since: Jan 13

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#11704 Jan 31, 2013
Proof of God's existence (continued)

8) ARGUMENT FROM MIRACLES (I)
(1) My aunt had cancer.
(2) The doctors gave her all these horrible treatments.
(3) My aunt prayed to God and now she doesn't have cancer.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

9) MORAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) Person X, a well-known atheist, was morally inferior to the rest of us.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

10) MORAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) In my younger days I was a cursing, drinking, smoking, gambling, child-molesting, thieving, murdering, bed-wetting bastard.
(2) That all changed once I became religious.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

11) ARGUMENT FROM CREATION, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL INCREDULITY (I)
(1) If evolution is false, then creationism is true, and therefore God exists.
(2) Evolution can't be true, since I lack the mental capacity to understand it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be uncomfortable.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

12) ARGUMENT FROM FEAR
(1) If there is no God then we're all going to not exist after we die.
(2) I'm afraid of that.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

13) ARGUMENT FROM THE BIBLE
(1)[arbitrary passage from OT]
(2)[arbitrary passage from NT]
(3) Therefore, God exists.

14) ARGUMENT FROM INTELLIGENCE
(1) Look, there's really no point in me trying to explain the whole thing to you stupid atheists; it's too complicated for you to understand. God exists whether you like it or not.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

Since: Apr 09

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#11705 Jan 31, 2013
Glenn wrote:
Yes it will cease because Jesus will reign. No evil thoughts and principles like these will triumph at the end. GOd will reign, not atheism because atheism does not really exist. It's man's effort to remove God so they can do what they want.
Mice will play when the cat is away
Atheists don't really exist?

LOL....okay....how am I typing this?

Since: Apr 09

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#11706 Jan 31, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
Proof that God exists:
1) TRANSCENDENTAL ARGUMENT, a.k.a. PRESUPPOSITIONALIST (I)
(1) If reason exists then God exists.
(2) Reason exists.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
2) COSMOLOGICAL ARGUMENT, a.k.a. FIRST CAUSE ARGUMENT (I)
(1) If I say something must have a cause, it has a cause.
(2) I say the universe must have a cause.
(3) Therefore, the universe has a cause.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
3) ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) I define God to be X.
(2) Since I can conceive of X, X must exist.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
4) ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) I can conceive of a perfect God.
(2) One of the qualities of perfection is existence.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
5) MODAL ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
(1) God is either necessary or unnecessary.
(2) God is not unnecessary, therefore God must be necessary.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
6) ARGUMENT FROM DESIGN, a.k.a. GOD OF THE GAPS, a.k.a. TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) Check out the world/universe/giraffe. Isn't it complex?
(2) Only God could have made them so complex.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
7) ARGUMENT FROM BEAUTY, a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) Isn't that baby/sunset/flower/tree beautiful?
(2) Only God could have made them so beautiful.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
I hope that was meant to be a joke...

Since: Apr 09

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#11707 Jan 31, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
Proof of God's existence (continued)
8) ARGUMENT FROM MIRACLES (I)
(1) My aunt had cancer.
(2) The doctors gave her all these horrible treatments.
(3) My aunt prayed to God and now she doesn't have cancer.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
9) MORAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) Person X, a well-known atheist, was morally inferior to the rest of us.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
10) MORAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) In my younger days I was a cursing, drinking, smoking, gambling, child-molesting, thieving, murdering, bed-wetting bastard.
(2) That all changed once I became religious.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
11) ARGUMENT FROM CREATION, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL INCREDULITY (I)
(1) If evolution is false, then creationism is true, and therefore God exists.
(2) Evolution can't be true, since I lack the mental capacity to understand it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be uncomfortable.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
12) ARGUMENT FROM FEAR
(1) If there is no God then we're all going to not exist after we die.
(2) I'm afraid of that.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
13) ARGUMENT FROM THE BIBLE
(1)[arbitrary passage from OT]
(2)[arbitrary passage from NT]
(3) Therefore, God exists.
14) ARGUMENT FROM INTELLIGENCE
(1) Look, there's really no point in me trying to explain the whole thing to you stupid atheists; it's too complicated for you to understand. God exists whether you like it or not.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
Seriously...this is a joke - right?

Since: Jan 13

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#11708 Jan 31, 2013
Proof that God exists (continued further)

15) ARGUMENT FROM UNINTELLIGENCE
(1) Okay, I don't pretend to be as intelligent as you guys — you're obviously very well read. But I read the Bible, and nothing you say can convince me that God does not exist. I feel him in my heart, and you can feel him too, if you'll just ask him into your life. "For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son into the world, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish from the earth." John 3:16.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

16) ARGUMENT FROM BELIEF
(1) If God exists, then I should believe in Him.
(2) I believe in God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

17) ARGUMENT FROM INTIMIDATION, a.k.a. TOMAS DE TORQUEMADA'S ARGUMENT
(1) See this bonfire?
(2) Therefore, God exists.

18) PARENTAL ARGUMENT
(1) My mommy and daddy told me that God exists.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

19) ARGUMENT FROM NUMBERS
(1) Billions of people believe in God.
(2) They can't all be wrong, can they?
(3) Therefore, God exists.

20) ARGUMENT FROM ABSURDITY
(1) Maranathra!
(2) Therefore, God exists.

21) ARGUMENT FROM ECONOMY
(1) God exists, you bastards!
(2) Therefore, God exists.

22) BOATWRIGHT'S ARGUMENT
(1) Ha ha ha.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

23) ARGUMENT FROM INTERNET AUTHORITY
(1) There is a website that successfully argues for the existence of God.
(2) Here is the URL.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

24) ARGUMENT FROM INCOMPREHENSIBILITY
(1) Flabble glurk zoom boink blubba snurgleschnortz ping!
(2) No one has ever refuted (1).
(3) Therefore, God exists.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#11709 Jan 31, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Stealing comes as effortlessly as lying for the Christians. They continually try to steal the US Constitution and science for Jesus, as when we hear how the founding fathers and many scientists are Christian. They even stole "Thou shalt not steal" from the Jews.
Abrahamic Religion: "Ripping off other religions since...well, since we can!"

Since: Jan 13

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#11710 Jan 31, 2013
?) ARGUMENT FROM SMUGNESS
(1) God exists.
(2) I don't give a crap whether you believe it or not; I have better things to do than to try to convince you morons.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

??) ARGUMENT FROM META-SMUGNESS
(1) F*ck you.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#11711 Jan 31, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously...this is a joke - right?
I think 01Justsayin gone off the deep end.

Using the circular reasoning formula again.

01Justsayin what’s proof that something doesn’t exist from the ones that do not believe it exist, therefore 01Justsayin can side step his/her obligation to prove a statement made as an absolute.

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#11712 Jan 31, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
?) ARGUMENT FROM SMUGNESS
(1) God exists.
(2) I don't give a crap whether you believe it or not; I have better things to do than to try to convince you morons.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
??) ARGUMENT FROM META-SMUGNESS
(1) F*ck you.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
Got backed into a corner did you?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#11713 Jan 31, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
Proof that God exists:
1) TRANSCENDENTAL ARGUMENT, a.k.a. PRESUPPOSITIONALIST (I)
(1) If reason exists then God exists.
(2) Reason exists.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
2) COSMOLOGICAL ARGUMENT, a.k.a. FIRST CAUSE ARGUMENT (I)
(1) If I say something must have a cause, it has a cause.
(2) I say the universe must have a cause.
(3) Therefore, the universe has a cause.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
3) ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) I define God to be X.
(2) Since I can conceive of X, X must exist.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
4) ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) I can conceive of a perfect God.
(2) One of the qualities of perfection is existence.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
5) MODAL ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
(1) God is either necessary or unnecessary.
(2) God is not unnecessary, therefore God must be necessary.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
6) ARGUMENT FROM DESIGN, a.k.a. GOD OF THE GAPS, a.k.a. TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) Check out the world/universe/giraffe. Isn't it complex?
(2) Only God could have made them so complex.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
7) ARGUMENT FROM BEAUTY, a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) Isn't that baby/sunset/flower/tree beautiful?
(2) Only God could have made them so beautiful.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
1. Presupposition.
2. Presupposition.
3. Delusion.
4. Delusion.
5. False dichotomy.
6. Presupposition.
7. Argument from ignorance.

All fallacies, all debunked a million times over, all pointless garbage used by people to remain lazy.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#11714 Jan 31, 2013
Very Cynical Person wrote:
<quoted text>Got backed into a corner did you?
His back was against the wall the first post he made on the subject. Now he's just spamming garbage for the sake of garbage.
insidesecrets

Albuquerque, NM

#11715 Jan 31, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
So explain how it is that medical science works?
It doesn't. People continue to get sick.

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#11716 Jan 31, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
His back was against the wall the first post he made on the subject. Now he's just spamming garbage for the sake of garbage.
Yea, man they can squirm can’t they?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#11717 Jan 31, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
<quoted text>
It doesn't. People continue to get sick.
Well, they get sick a lot less, each advance tends to result in fewer people getting sick. Not to mention people are not dying nearly as much today as they were 30 years ago. We're living a lot longer, all thanks to medical science.

So, it's working. Your fallacy is: http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/composition-d...
insidesecrets

Albuquerque, NM

#11718 Jan 31, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you think would be the difference if Pol Pot and Mao had been Christians? Are you implying that that would have saved lives? Hitler and Stalin were raised in Christianity. It didn't seem to make much difference, did it? Not any more than it did during the Spanish Inquisition or the Salem witch burnings.
Totalitarian ideologies like Stalinism are simply religions like Christianity and Islam, but with human gods. They are all cults of personality, where worship of the leader and strict devotion to his pronouncements is demanded. They are equally authoritarian and intolerant, and as you noted, each have long histories of genocide.
Secular humanism, which is only guilty of giving the world modern liberal democracies, human rights, and science, repudiates it all:
"We affirm humanism as a realistic alternative to theologies of despair and ideologies of violence and as a source of rich personal significance and genuine satisfaction in the service to others."
<quoted text>
Every member of the Supreme Court that voted with the majority in Roe vs. Wade was a theist. Most abortions have been requested by Christian women. I'm afraid that blood is on your hands.
I am saying that atheists are as guilty of committing atrocities as you claim Christians are.
insidesecrets

Albuquerque, NM

#11719 Jan 31, 2013
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
If "the god!" is beyond all intellectual thought or imaginings able to be conceived of by man, then, how can you make that statement?
Wait, don't tell me, you know.
<laughs>
You missed this part apparently. ".....and religious myths, are the touchstones of our NATURAL DIVINITY expressed.

Since: Jan 13

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#11720 Jan 31, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>Seriously...this is a joke - right?
Lol Yeah.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#11721 Jan 31, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
<quoted text>
I am saying that atheists are as guilty of committing atrocities as you claim Christians are.
Yes, atheists with totalitarian agendas, but not all atheists. Or do we blame all christians for the witch hunts, Crusades, Inquisition ... and many others? Anyone with a totalitarian agenda will commit atrocities, it's a means to an end for that type of thinking, it has nothing to do with belief or lack of belief. However, the god delusion masks many other very dangerous psychosis.

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