Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24182 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11692 Jan 31, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
Atheism tends to exalt reason, but it is actually irrational. Atheists tend to put a lot of stock in the emperical method and in logic. One cannot disprove God exists using the emperical method. You might reply: But I can't disprove a giant purple frog on Mars controls the universe, either. Granted, one can never disprove any given thing exists. The atheistic position denying God's existence, if based on the emperical method, is absurd. Why do I say that? In order to prove the assertion No God exists experimentally, one would need to comprehensively know all of reality. Comprehensive knowledge of reality is called omniscience. One would need to be omniscient in order to prove there is no God, but if one were omniscient one would, by definition, already be God! So, based on emperical methodology, the only one capable of disproving the existence of God would be God himself! But some would say you can indeed assert something does not exist if its existence is logically self contradictory, such as a square triangle. By definition it cannot exist. It is illogical for something to be a square and to also be a triangle. Again, granted, but this line of reasoning assumes logic and real meaning exist and are our basis for knowledge --something an atheist has no right to assert! The existence of God is not only logically possible, it is philosophically essential. One cannot prove logic exists unless one first presupposes a God in whom reason and meaning are transcendentally rooted, otherwise these categories are mere philosphical prejuduces. Atheism is inherently self-contradictory. The evidence for the existence of God is there for all to see, only we refuse to see it. King David wrote: The fool says in his heart there is no God.(Psalm 14:1) In other words, Atheism is irrational. Apart from God there is no basis for truth or ethics. For the sake of brevity, let's simply consider ethics.
And this is even worse than a bare link. It's the bare plagiarized content of such a link. The same objections apply that apply to the bare link, plus the deception and the theft of intellectual property.

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#11693 Jan 31, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
Where is the proof or evidence to support the "belief" that you have that there is no God?
Say what?

You want proof of something I do not believe in?

I do not believe in a god or gods.

It is better that the one making the claim has the burden of proof of that claim.
01Justsayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism - The theory or BELIEF that God does not exist.(google it) There most certainly is scientific evidence that God is real. Look it up. I ain't doing your work for you. However there is NO SCIENTIFIC evidence to prove that God does not exist. It's not possible. You just can't do it. The mere BELIEF that God does not exist is a BELIEF within itself. Ergo you are a hypocrite.
Atheism means not theist.

I have looked up many claims of evidence of a god or gods but none have ever shown proof of evidence.
So what you are saying is the there is no such thing a (not believing) in something.

Your logic behind not believing is flawed.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11695 Jan 31, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
Now you're plagerizing WordPress opinion pieces. Exactly how low will you stoop? And this one talks about ethics. Apparently you have none.
Stealing comes as effortlessly as lying for the Christians. They continually try to steal the US Constitution and science for Jesus, as when we hear how the founding fathers and many scientists are Christian. They even stole "Thou shalt not steal" from the Jews.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11696 Jan 31, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Main Entry: 1god
Pronunciation:\ˈgäd also ˈgȯd\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English; akin to Old High German got god
Date: before 12th century
1 capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: as a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind 2 : a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship ; specifically : one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality 3 : a 4 : a powerful ruler
A person or thing of supreme value? A powerful ruler? OK. I'll grant you that such a "God" has existed. But it didn't create much - maybe a dynasty or a pyramid.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11697 Jan 31, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet the world did survive, and went on to suffer the atrocities of godless communist regimes where millions of people were mainmed and killed.
Can you name... ONE? No? Interesting. You True Believers™ just keep trying to revise history with you lies-- but you never succeed.

This is because your average atheist is better educated than your average True Believer™.

... meh.
insidesecrets wrote:
The total body count for the ninety years between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead at the bloody hands of only fifty-two atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined!
Do you have a link? No? Interesting-- you did not even mention a name....

... so I presume this is just more of your lies.

Classic True Believer™-- you lie, because you have no facts.
insidesecrets wrote:
The historical record of collective atheism is thousands of times worse on an annual basis than Christianity’s worst and most infamous bloodbath, the Spanish Inquisition. Add this to the unholy gruesome slaughter of abortion and the numbers are unconscionably staggering!
Abortion is not murder, you idiot. Boy are you stupid, or what?
insidesecrets wrote:
We will need to colonize Mars if we want to avoid the fate of the polar bears. We have no choice if our species is to survive to go on begetting the greed and gluttony of an amoral science driven vision to industrialize the world, which has not only devoured much of the earth's store of natural resources and pushed species to extinction, but caused climate change which threatens ALL of humanity, by putting the entire planet in peril!
Still no facts. Imagine that?

Your lies just keep on coming and coming and coming... like a kind of lying pink bunny-rabbit.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11698 Jan 31, 2013
Henry wrote:
<quoted text>is a logic
Oh yes! In the nuclear age the possibility of extermination of humankind in a capitalistic society is very real! Even if there is no nuclear war, the AKWs are able to cause the extermination of the human race.
I doubt that is true- there are too many humans, spread over too many environments to kill everyone.

Even a biological agent will not be 100%-- some humans will prove immune.(just as one of the worst epidemics, AIDS, has shown that there are some who appear to be completely immune to the retrovirus. Check GOOGLE for examples, references)

So I'm not all that worried about total extinction from things humans may or may not do.

A large meteor? Sure-- that could do it. There's some evidence that one of the oldest mass-extinction events did exactly that, blasting the earth so well, that only deep microbial life survived.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11699 Jan 31, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I agree. It would be a case of life being made more shitty rather than game over. Much like wearing a burkha!
<quoted text>
Indeed.

But one thing a destruction of modern civilization would do? Is wipe out the majority of religions from the planet.

When the chips are down, and survival is at stake, humans show they don't have time or energy to maintain huge edifices dedicated to fantasies.

Whatever religion(s) do survive, will likely bear little resemblance to any of the current brands.

I would not be at all surprised to see some version of "the force" or "jedi", or even "star trek" as the dominant religion(s), post- collapse.

:)

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#11700 Jan 31, 2013
http://mobile.alternet.org/alternet/ #!/entry/the-5-most-awful-athe ists,508833b7d7fc7b56702e6d48

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11701 Jan 31, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism - The theory or BELIEF that God does not exist.(google it)
No.

That is false-- it is a "defintion" created by idiots such as you, to try to describe people such as I.

I do not have beliefs as you say, here--- none.

I lack any and all belief in a god or gods.

That is atheism-- NO faith in gods.

I may have faith in things that have evidence behind them, sure.

But gods have no evidence, thus, I have no faith in gods.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11702 Jan 31, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
"I attack this book because it is the enemy of human liberty -- the greatest obstruction across the highway of human progress." - Robert Green Ingersoll
“We would be 1,500 years ahead if it hadn't been for the church dragging science back by its coattails and burning our best minds at the stake.”- Catherine Fahringer
"Religion prevents our children from having a rational education; religion prevents us from removing the fundamental causes of war; religion prevents us from teaching the ethic of scientific cooperation in place of the old fierce doctrines of sin and punishment. It is possible that mankind is on the threshold of a golden age; but, if so, it will be necessary first to slay the dragon that guards the door, and this dragon is religion." - Bertrand Russell
What has Christianity given the world of value?
Oooh! Oooh! Can I answer?

It has given us... red wine during church! Yaaay, wine.:D

What? Not all of them? Too bad.

That would've been something at least ...

Since: Jan 13

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#11703 Jan 31, 2013
Proof that God exists:

1) TRANSCENDENTAL ARGUMENT, a.k.a. PRESUPPOSITIONALIST (I)
(1) If reason exists then God exists.
(2) Reason exists.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

2) COSMOLOGICAL ARGUMENT, a.k.a. FIRST CAUSE ARGUMENT (I)
(1) If I say something must have a cause, it has a cause.
(2) I say the universe must have a cause.
(3) Therefore, the universe has a cause.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

3) ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) I define God to be X.
(2) Since I can conceive of X, X must exist.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

4) ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) I can conceive of a perfect God.
(2) One of the qualities of perfection is existence.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

5) MODAL ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
(1) God is either necessary or unnecessary.
(2) God is not unnecessary, therefore God must be necessary.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

6) ARGUMENT FROM DESIGN, a.k.a. GOD OF THE GAPS, a.k.a. TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) Check out the world/universe/giraffe. Isn't it complex?
(2) Only God could have made them so complex.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

7) ARGUMENT FROM BEAUTY, a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) Isn't that baby/sunset/flower/tree beautiful?
(2) Only God could have made them so beautiful.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

Since: Jan 13

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#11704 Jan 31, 2013
Proof of God's existence (continued)

8) ARGUMENT FROM MIRACLES (I)
(1) My aunt had cancer.
(2) The doctors gave her all these horrible treatments.
(3) My aunt prayed to God and now she doesn't have cancer.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

9) MORAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) Person X, a well-known atheist, was morally inferior to the rest of us.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

10) MORAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) In my younger days I was a cursing, drinking, smoking, gambling, child-molesting, thieving, murdering, bed-wetting bastard.
(2) That all changed once I became religious.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

11) ARGUMENT FROM CREATION, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL INCREDULITY (I)
(1) If evolution is false, then creationism is true, and therefore God exists.
(2) Evolution can't be true, since I lack the mental capacity to understand it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be uncomfortable.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

12) ARGUMENT FROM FEAR
(1) If there is no God then we're all going to not exist after we die.
(2) I'm afraid of that.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

13) ARGUMENT FROM THE BIBLE
(1)[arbitrary passage from OT]
(2)[arbitrary passage from NT]
(3) Therefore, God exists.

14) ARGUMENT FROM INTELLIGENCE
(1) Look, there's really no point in me trying to explain the whole thing to you stupid atheists; it's too complicated for you to understand. God exists whether you like it or not.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

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#11705 Jan 31, 2013
Glenn wrote:
Yes it will cease because Jesus will reign. No evil thoughts and principles like these will triumph at the end. GOd will reign, not atheism because atheism does not really exist. It's man's effort to remove God so they can do what they want.
Mice will play when the cat is away
Atheists don't really exist?

LOL....okay....how am I typing this?

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#11706 Jan 31, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
Proof that God exists:
1) TRANSCENDENTAL ARGUMENT, a.k.a. PRESUPPOSITIONALIST (I)
(1) If reason exists then God exists.
(2) Reason exists.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
2) COSMOLOGICAL ARGUMENT, a.k.a. FIRST CAUSE ARGUMENT (I)
(1) If I say something must have a cause, it has a cause.
(2) I say the universe must have a cause.
(3) Therefore, the universe has a cause.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
3) ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) I define God to be X.
(2) Since I can conceive of X, X must exist.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
4) ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) I can conceive of a perfect God.
(2) One of the qualities of perfection is existence.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
5) MODAL ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
(1) God is either necessary or unnecessary.
(2) God is not unnecessary, therefore God must be necessary.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
6) ARGUMENT FROM DESIGN, a.k.a. GOD OF THE GAPS, a.k.a. TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) Check out the world/universe/giraffe. Isn't it complex?
(2) Only God could have made them so complex.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
7) ARGUMENT FROM BEAUTY, a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) Isn't that baby/sunset/flower/tree beautiful?
(2) Only God could have made them so beautiful.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
I hope that was meant to be a joke...

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#11707 Jan 31, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
Proof of God's existence (continued)
8) ARGUMENT FROM MIRACLES (I)
(1) My aunt had cancer.
(2) The doctors gave her all these horrible treatments.
(3) My aunt prayed to God and now she doesn't have cancer.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
9) MORAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) Person X, a well-known atheist, was morally inferior to the rest of us.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
10) MORAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) In my younger days I was a cursing, drinking, smoking, gambling, child-molesting, thieving, murdering, bed-wetting bastard.
(2) That all changed once I became religious.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
11) ARGUMENT FROM CREATION, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL INCREDULITY (I)
(1) If evolution is false, then creationism is true, and therefore God exists.
(2) Evolution can't be true, since I lack the mental capacity to understand it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be uncomfortable.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
12) ARGUMENT FROM FEAR
(1) If there is no God then we're all going to not exist after we die.
(2) I'm afraid of that.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
13) ARGUMENT FROM THE BIBLE
(1)[arbitrary passage from OT]
(2)[arbitrary passage from NT]
(3) Therefore, God exists.
14) ARGUMENT FROM INTELLIGENCE
(1) Look, there's really no point in me trying to explain the whole thing to you stupid atheists; it's too complicated for you to understand. God exists whether you like it or not.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
Seriously...this is a joke - right?

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#11708 Jan 31, 2013
Proof that God exists (continued further)

15) ARGUMENT FROM UNINTELLIGENCE
(1) Okay, I don't pretend to be as intelligent as you guys — you're obviously very well read. But I read the Bible, and nothing you say can convince me that God does not exist. I feel him in my heart, and you can feel him too, if you'll just ask him into your life. "For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son into the world, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish from the earth." John 3:16.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

16) ARGUMENT FROM BELIEF
(1) If God exists, then I should believe in Him.
(2) I believe in God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

17) ARGUMENT FROM INTIMIDATION, a.k.a. TOMAS DE TORQUEMADA'S ARGUMENT
(1) See this bonfire?
(2) Therefore, God exists.

18) PARENTAL ARGUMENT
(1) My mommy and daddy told me that God exists.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

19) ARGUMENT FROM NUMBERS
(1) Billions of people believe in God.
(2) They can't all be wrong, can they?
(3) Therefore, God exists.

20) ARGUMENT FROM ABSURDITY
(1) Maranathra!
(2) Therefore, God exists.

21) ARGUMENT FROM ECONOMY
(1) God exists, you bastards!
(2) Therefore, God exists.

22) BOATWRIGHT'S ARGUMENT
(1) Ha ha ha.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

23) ARGUMENT FROM INTERNET AUTHORITY
(1) There is a website that successfully argues for the existence of God.
(2) Here is the URL.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

24) ARGUMENT FROM INCOMPREHENSIBILITY
(1) Flabble glurk zoom boink blubba snurgleschnortz ping!
(2) No one has ever refuted (1).
(3) Therefore, God exists.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#11709 Jan 31, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Stealing comes as effortlessly as lying for the Christians. They continually try to steal the US Constitution and science for Jesus, as when we hear how the founding fathers and many scientists are Christian. They even stole "Thou shalt not steal" from the Jews.
Abrahamic Religion: "Ripping off other religions since...well, since we can!"

Since: Jan 13

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#11710 Jan 31, 2013
?) ARGUMENT FROM SMUGNESS
(1) God exists.
(2) I don't give a crap whether you believe it or not; I have better things to do than to try to convince you morons.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

??) ARGUMENT FROM META-SMUGNESS
(1) F*ck you.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#11711 Jan 31, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously...this is a joke - right?
I think 01Justsayin gone off the deep end.

Using the circular reasoning formula again.

01Justsayin what’s proof that something doesn’t exist from the ones that do not believe it exist, therefore 01Justsayin can side step his/her obligation to prove a statement made as an absolute.

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#11712 Jan 31, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
?) ARGUMENT FROM SMUGNESS
(1) God exists.
(2) I don't give a crap whether you believe it or not; I have better things to do than to try to convince you morons.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
??) ARGUMENT FROM META-SMUGNESS
(1) F*ck you.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
Got backed into a corner did you?

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