Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24182 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#11372 Jan 25, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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That's a possible position.
But it evades the ethical issue. It says don't rape in such a scenario because it won't work, not because rape is always wrong.
What if we had a way to make it work, and the problem was reduced to the philosophical one alone. What if it was a simple matter of letting the human race die out, or raping a woman. Would that change your position?
Let it die, with that sort of beginning, it is already well on it's way to making all woman forever chattel/sex slaves/captives/victims.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11373 Jan 25, 2013
Khatru wrote:
You're not from the UK, are you? Otherwise you'd have spelled it "foetus"
Foetus, don't fail me now.
http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll330/drew...

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It seems that the Catholic Church is now willing to concede that a fetus is not a person - at least not for the purpose of defending itself in this lawsuit. From http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/23/1181... (please note the Jesus face palm as well):

"In just the past year, the Church has called upon its faithful followers to march, to starve themselves, to go to jail, to even take up arms—all to protect those fetuses. No exceptions. None. Not [even] if the fetus is already dead inside the womb. Not [even] if the fetus is going to kill the actual living woman carrying it. No goddamned exceptions EVER. Well, except for one: when it's going to cost the Church money.

"Turns out, when a man sues a Catholic hospital for malpractice because his wife and the twins she was carrying inside her died when she turned up in the emergency room and her doctor never bothered to answer a page — well, things get a little tricky.

"[T]hey are arguing state law protects doctors from liability concerning unborn fetuses on grounds that those fetuses are not persons with legal rights."

[BTW, here's a link to the face palm Jesus for your files: http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/... ]
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#11374 Jan 25, 2013
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#11375 Jan 25, 2013
EdSed wrote:
http://www.secularism.org.uk/n ews/2013/01/only-7-percent-thi nk-being-christian-is-importan t-for-being-british
Interesting article. Christianity is definately on the decline in the UK.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#11376 Jan 25, 2013
word wrote:
If you do not have a sense of were you came from or who made then then you are doom here on earth.
It is the devil that works to failed your faith.
Wow...when you post something like that, you do not help your cause...

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#11377 Jan 25, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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So it's blame women, eh?
No wonder the Bible is no friend to women.
That is God's own Truth, Khatru!

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#11378 Jan 25, 2013
Adam wrote:
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Interesting article. Christianity is definately on the decline in the UK.
Congratulations!
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#11379 Jan 25, 2013
Congrats to Adam indeed. He was only recently "one of them"...
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Congratulations!

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#11380 Jan 25, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
That's a possible position.
But it evades the ethical issue. It says don't rape in such a scenario because it won't work, not because rape is always wrong.
What if we had a way to make it work, and the problem was reduced to the philosophical one alone. What if it was a simple matter of letting the human race die out, or raping a woman. Would that change your position?
I'm not sure. Suppose we had a situation where to preserve the human race we had to rape ALL the women alive at some time. Would that be justified? Your scenario feels much like that.

And the problem is that justifications like this have been used throughout history to perpetrate horrid crimes against humanity. And that leads me to think ALL such justifications are problematic, at least. Once again, better to let the human race die out than this.

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#11381 Jan 25, 2013
mtimber wrote:
Just to re-iterate, if anyone wants to continue the debate, I have moved to the other thread as it makes no sense to be posting on the same subject in two places at once:
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TUGI0DV...
Just a suggestion, get your creator buddy to give you a dig out of the hole you've dug yourself into.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#11382 Jan 25, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Congrats to Adam indeed. He was only recently "one of them"...
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Looking back. It was akin to a mild form of mental illness. Religious delusions esp the devout kind I think are a form of illness. Its difficult to admit you are wrong if you have invested so much emotionally in a belief system.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#11383 Jan 25, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Congrats to Adam indeed. He was only recently "one of them"...
<quoted text>
No kidding! Wow! What made his transition? I should really be asking him that.

Adam! Congratulations again - what helped your transition?

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#11384 Jan 25, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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I'm not sure. Suppose we had a situation where to preserve the human race we had to rape ALL the women alive at some time. Would that be justified? Your scenario feels much like that.
And the problem is that justifications like this have been used throughout history to perpetrate horrid crimes against humanity. And that leads me to think ALL such justifications are problematic, at least. Once again, better to let the human race die out than this.
You mean, like, if there were only lesbians left alive and they wanted no part of men, and medical technology was no longer functioning, due to the nuclear holocaust and lack of expertise?

That would seriously be a difficult moral problem.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#11385 Jan 25, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Of course not.
It is on that basis that we can reject the Christian bible and the god it describes, which allegedly authored it. It is full of errors and contradictions. There are no more imperfect perfect gods than there are married bachelors.
The law of noncontradiction also tells us that omniscience and free will can't coexist.
And the law of noncontradiction says that the universe could not have been created both in six days and in thirteen-plus billion years.
What if...what...if ... the first day was like, the big bang and the second day was like...13 billion years later...and then later that day, Earth...and then later that day, you get water...and then we fudge the birds and bats thing a bit, add some fish, twist stuff around, make humans appear too early,'cause the writer is stupid and ignorant, and God's logically impossible, and we throw all kinds of caveats in there, a few "but...but...but"s and add some illogic, irrationality and gross amounts of the opposite of education and teach it to gullible children?

Hey?!? What then, huh???
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#11386 Jan 25, 2013
I like to think I didn't help. ;)
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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No kidding! Wow! What made his transition? I should really be asking him that.
Adam! Congratulations again - what helped your transition?

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#11387 Jan 25, 2013
Just to point out to those that keep responding to me, I can now be engaged on this thread:

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TUGI0DV...
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#11388 Jan 25, 2013
Nobber.
mtimber wrote:
Just to point out to those that keep responding to me, I can now be engaged on this thread:
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TUGI0DV...
Henry

Germany

#11389 Jan 25, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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The evidence for God is self attesting.
If He did not exist, you would not be able to account for reason, you would not be able to account for morality and would not be able to account for scientific processes.
God is not existing, Science sure!
Henry

Germany

#11390 Jan 25, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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And the opening statement proves the point.
The reason you reject the gospel is because it demands more than you are willing to give up.
Your sins in other words...
To justify that, you try to attribute Gods character as immoral, using His standards of absolute morality, which you cannot account for as an atheist, to try to justify your own sin.
But you know of God, as He has revealed Himself to you.
You are just in denial.
God is non existant!
Henry

Germany

#11391 Jan 25, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Wow this is only the 180th time you have used the bandwagon logical fallacy.
Well it's a good thing there are so many believers as we atheists need you slow witted peons to do the menial low wage paying jobs to make our life more comfortable. Keep forward on sheep :)
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There is high time for Americans to become atheists!

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