Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Apr 25, 2012 Full story: Psychology Today 23,072

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#10995 Jan 22, 2013
Kosovogirl wrote:
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Erm it's obvious by this site... Some athiests call people who believe in god "stupid" that's I'd a way of forcing them to not believe.
If I thought that that would work, I'd do it more.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#10997 Jan 22, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
He didn't say anything about empathy for a church. He said empathy for "non-atheists". Your bigotry carried you away again.
Carried away? I liked my answer.

Bigotry? Maybe you think that I should have a different attitude about Christianity and the Christian church. What would you suggest that would be more accurate or more fair? Praise it?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#10998 Jan 22, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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Sheer awesomeness!
Why thank you!
Lincoln

United States

#10999 Jan 22, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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All of America's problems are caused by the rise of liberalism. It began with Woodrow Wilson.
All economic recessions have been caused by liberal governance. Every single one.
...and America has no gun problems, except for needing more people with guns. Liberals want more criminals to have guns. Law-abiding citizens should arm themselves to shift the balance of power more heavily toward the peaceful people.
But that's not a gun problem. The guns work pretty well, generally. Usually, a problem-gun gets discarded.
It began with Woodrow Wilson..:-)

Thomas Jefferson, 1776, Declaration of Independence.
Lincoln

United States

#11000 Jan 22, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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It's self-evidently true. Whoever is not a theist is an atheist.
funny :-)

illogical
Lincoln

United States

#11001 Jan 22, 2013
Seems full of himself?:-)
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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What are you hoping to accomplish here?

A little entertainment for yourself?
If your purpose is more than that, you are wasting your time. You are not going to flip a mature rational skeptic at this stage of his or her intellectual and moral development. You have nothing to offer.
FYI, we define ourselves, not our ideological enemies.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11002 Jan 22, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
I am a theist, but do no worshipping, have no church, and no priest. Your argument is a straw man.
My argument is a straw man because you say that it doesn't apply to you? You are not the universe. You're not even the earth.

Plus, your god is not his god. I believe that his god is Jesus. Your god is Ol' Wispy Miasma, the featureless god, as I recall.
Buck Crick wrote:
And whether any god gave permission for the words on currency is entirely irrelevant. The people decided it. It's the people's right. They don't need your permission, and you don't have to like it.
They might be angering Ugaboo-boo-Ugga. That's everybody's business.
Buck Crick wrote:
I suspect you accepted your share of the green paper "religious tracts" anyway, and would have taken more if you could get it.
I probably got your share, too.

Nothing ever changes with you, does it? It's always a pissing match. No problem.

Were they able to save the jaw?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#11003 Jan 22, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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What if committing rape gives people pleasure in the society?
What then?
If pleasure is the deciding factor, as you have stated.
No, pleasure is one of the factors, everyone makes their own morals, choosing a cookie cutter moral system does not mean you did not make those choices either, it just means you liked the morals of another person.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11004 Jan 22, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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And the opening statement proves the point.
That your religion is one of hate, abuse and intolerance?

I agree-- Genuine Christianity™ is a hate cult. Thanks for agreeing!
mtimber wrote:
The reason you reject the gospel is because it demands more than you are willing to give up.
Correct: I believe women should be treated equally as with men. In direct contrast to your gospels. That's too high a price: integrity.

Correct: I believe children should never be abused at the hands of your priests, your preachers-- but your god remains silent as always every single time this happens. That's too high a price too.

Correct: I believe gay people should be permitted to marry with full, equal rights that straight couples have UNDER THE LAW. Under the rules of your hate-cult? Who cares? Your cult is one of hate.
mtimber wrote:
Your sins in other words...
I have NEVER sinned in the LEGAL definition of the word (deliberately broken the law).

Your religious hate-cult's rules do not apply to me, bigot.
mtimber wrote:
To justify that, you try to attribute Gods character as immoral, using His standards of absolute morality, which you cannot account for as an atheist, to try to justify your own sin.
Your god IS an immoral monster: your god MURDERS THE INNOCENT, just to "punish" the guilty!

That is a sin WITHOUT EQUAL. Your god is a monster.
mtimber wrote:
But you know of God, as He has revealed Himself to you.
Lie-- your god has never "revealed" himself to ANYONE. Not me.

AND NOT YOU-- especially not YOU.
mtimber wrote:
You are just in denial.
Nope-- I've never been to Egypt.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11005 Jan 22, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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And you atheists need to evolve some manners...
Oh wait, as an atheist you are not required to have manners as morality is just a subjective choice.
Carry on then...
Pot? Meet kettle.

You have deliberately tried to slander ME, by accusing me of this "sin".

And you have the GALL to claim "good manners"?

Wow... just... wow. Your hypocrisy is .. breathtaking.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11006 Jan 22, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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"All newborns, toddlers and most children are atheist"
.....rather desperate generalization :-)
You
have
scientific
data
to
back
this ?
Yes.

Do they have ANY knowledge of ANY gods?

No. They lack all knowledge of everything.

Therefore? They are atheists-- for without knowledge you certainly cannot have FAITH.

Can you?

And atheists simply lack faith in gods. That's it.

Scientifically proven: all infants are born without faith (atheists).

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11007 Jan 22, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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You must be doing some awesome drugs to write nonsensical BS like that...
Indeed: the willful ignorance (self lies) is strong with this one.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11008 Jan 22, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Funny using topix as a source.:---)
Voted for Obama, who is also a Christian.
Atheists 5% of the population
surging toward 5.5%.
Nope-- that number is more like 20% surging to 21%.

Do try to keep up.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11009 Jan 22, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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President Obama was Very inclusive yesterday.
Did he mention atheists?
I don't rightly know-- I did not listen.

But I did vote for him, as being the best that was on the table.

I definitely didn't want Reagan 3.5 (Mitt the Twitt and misogynist Ryan). Those two would have sent us to another 1929 crash, within a month.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11010 Jan 22, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Toward you or your church?
As for you, you're just naïve and presumptuous. Yours are ancient arguments refuted many times by many people. You don't deserve more than a gentle correction.
But your church? It deserves all of the contempt that can be mustered for it.
RAmen, It Ain't! RAmen!

All the contempt, piled with heaps of derision too.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11011 Jan 22, 2013
Kosovogirl wrote:
Why do atheist talk about religions forcing god upon people when atheist are forcing people not to believe in god?
If a person wishes to believe in god let them believe, if they don't then don't bother them.
Who's forcing, now?

Who's motto is on the money? An atheistic one? Or a god-botherer one?

Which is it again?

Funny, I don't see any ATHEISTS knocking on doors, handing out bronze-age myths. Do you?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11012 Jan 22, 2013
Kosovogirl wrote:
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Erm it's obvious by this site... Some athiests call people who believe in god "stupid" that's I'd a way of forcing them to not believe.
If simply pointing out that faith in the unprovable was "stupid" was all it took to make someone NOT believe?

Well... we'd have 100% participation in atheism in this world within minutes.

You are being silly here. Words cannot "force" anyone to do what they truly do not wish to do.

To really force someone, you have to use violence or threats of violence.

You know-- exactly like what Genuine Christians™ did for centuries: convert or be tortured/killed.

And EXACTLY what Genuine Muslims™ are still doing even today.

Who's forcing people again?
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#11013 Jan 22, 2013
One opinion is that coalitions couldn't get anything done. But then having one house republican and the other democrat can have a similar effect. This also happens in France regularly.

Another opinion is that coalitions need to be more inclusive, which should be a good thing. But the tail can still wag the dog in a coalition, which is how the tea party works.

No system is perfect. I'd like a cap on the money political parties get to spend though.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Perhaps coalitional governments and parliaments are superior to their American counterparts. Something has gone terribly wrong in America that doesn't seem to be plaguing the other Western democracies. Their problems, when they have them, seem to be economic. America has to deal with the worst political parties, the worst church, the least effective schools, and the worst gun problems in the West.
And the economic problems, which it largely caused for itself and much of the world.
I really don't understand that.
Lincoln

United States

#11014 Jan 22, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Yes.
Do they have ANY knowledge of ANY gods?
No. They lack all knowledge of everything.
Therefore? They are atheists-- for without knowledge you certainly cannot have FAITH.
Can you?
And atheists simply lack faith in gods. That's it.
Scientifically proven: all infants are born without faith (atheists).
Stalin a good example of atheism in power

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11015 Jan 22, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Stalin a good example of atheism in power
No-- Stalin was a spiritualist, not an atheist.

Silly.

Your delusions of adequacy are ... amusing.

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