Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Apr 25, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Psychology Today

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
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Funny using topix as a source.:---)
You're kidding me with this, right? You asked for data that had just provided in an earlier post. I linked you to that.

My sources there were PEW and ARIS, as I indicated. You would have had to click on the provided link to see that, assuming that you had not just seen it a few minutes earlier while browsing through posts in sequence.

You asked for the data, which I spoon fed you,and which it seems you still missed. You make it difficult to educate you.

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President Obama was Very inclusive yesterday. Did he mention atheists?
I don't know. I missed it.

How did it go? Was he inaugurated?

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Erm it's obvious by this site... Some athiests call people who believe in god "stupid" that's I'd a way of forcing them to not believe.
LOL! Seriously?? If calling someone 'stupid' would be enough to get them to give up their beliefs, I'd say those beliefs didn't have that big of a hold on them in the first place. BTW... pointing out the hypocrisy of the overly religious isn't "forcing" them to do anything other than being an attempt to make them see their hypocrisy!

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http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
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you are projecting on to me something that isn't there.
Sorry. It's the nature of the medium.
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But the word "awe" applies to the mystical experience had by scientists, philosophers, and ordinary people. If it is a valid mystical experience it is consistent with the definition of mysticism being conscious awareness of the reality of what is without the blinders of religion.

This is something that can not be labeled in linear language. The mystical experience is a form of experiential knowledge and perhaps the only word that comes close to expressing it is "awe". True mysticism has nothing to do with the occult and is simply an expanded awareness of what is.
I'm good with that.
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The word "god" is problematic. But the consciousness that is the foundation of all that exists is real whatever you chose to call it. To most people the only word that seems to fit is "god".
Almost any word would fit. How about Ugaboo-boo-ugga, since it doesn't carry all of the baggage of the word "god"?
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And in discussing spirituality the best we can do is to point out what it isn't.
Disagree. I believe that I made several positive statements about spirituality. As I recall, so did you.
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True spirituality can not be expressed in any linear language. But I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on spirituallity.
I just gave the jist of them to you. Did you look at the links I just gave you? They were
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR... and http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...

Here's a third: http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

And a fourth: http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

I don't think that I have much more to say about it.

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If a person wishes to believe in god let them believe, if they don't then don't bother them.[/QUOTE]

OK.

Do you mind if we get your church out of our lives?

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Erm it's obvious by this site... Some athiests call people who believe in god "stupid" that's I'd a way of forcing them to not believe.
If I thought that that would work, I'd do it more.

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He didn't say anything about empathy for a church. He said empathy for "non-atheists". Your bigotry carried you away again.
Carried away? I liked my answer.

Bigotry? Maybe you think that I should have a different attitude about Christianity and the Christian church. What would you suggest that would be more accurate or more fair? Praise it?

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Sheer awesomeness!
Why thank you!
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All of America's problems are caused by the rise of liberalism. It began with Woodrow Wilson.
All economic recessions have been caused by liberal governance. Every single one.
...and America has no gun problems, except for needing more people with guns. Liberals want more criminals to have guns. Law-abiding citizens should arm themselves to shift the balance of power more heavily toward the peaceful people.
But that's not a gun problem. The guns work pretty well, generally. Usually, a problem-gun gets discarded.
It began with Woodrow Wilson..:-)

Thomas Jefferson, 1776, Declaration of Independence.
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It's self-evidently true. Whoever is not a theist is an atheist.
funny :-)

illogical
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Seems full of himself?:-)
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What are you hoping to accomplish here?

A little entertainment for yourself?
If your purpose is more than that, you are wasting your time. You are not going to flip a mature rational skeptic at this stage of his or her intellectual and moral development. You have nothing to offer.
FYI, we define ourselves, not our ideological enemies.

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Buck Crick wrote:
I am a theist, but do no worshipping, have no church, and no priest. Your argument is a straw man.
My argument is a straw man because you say that it doesn't apply to you? You are not the universe. You're not even the earth.

Plus, your god is not his god. I believe that his god is Jesus. Your god is Ol' Wispy Miasma, the featureless god, as I recall.
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And whether any god gave permission for the words on currency is entirely irrelevant. The people decided it. It's the people's right. They don't need your permission, and you don't have to like it.
They might be angering Ugaboo-boo-Ugga. That's everybody's business.
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I suspect you accepted your share of the green paper "religious tracts" anyway, and would have taken more if you could get it.
I probably got your share, too.

Nothing ever changes with you, does it? It's always a pissing match. No problem.

Were they able to save the jaw?

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What if committing rape gives people pleasure in the society?
What then?
If pleasure is the deciding factor, as you have stated.
No, pleasure is one of the factors, everyone makes their own morals, choosing a cookie cutter moral system does not mean you did not make those choices either, it just means you liked the morals of another person.

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And the opening statement proves the point.
That your religion is one of hate, abuse and intolerance?

I agree-- Genuine Christianity™ is a hate cult. Thanks for agreeing!
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The reason you reject the gospel is because it demands more than you are willing to give up.
Correct: I believe women should be treated equally as with men. In direct contrast to your gospels. That's too high a price: integrity.

Correct: I believe children should never be abused at the hands of your priests, your preachers-- but your god remains silent as always every single time this happens. That's too high a price too.

Correct: I believe gay people should be permitted to marry with full, equal rights that straight couples have UNDER THE LAW. Under the rules of your hate-cult? Who cares? Your cult is one of hate.
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Your sins in other words...
I have NEVER sinned in the LEGAL definition of the word (deliberately broken the law).

Your religious hate-cult's rules do not apply to me, bigot.
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To justify that, you try to attribute Gods character as immoral, using His standards of absolute morality, which you cannot account for as an atheist, to try to justify your own sin.
Your god IS an immoral monster: your god MURDERS THE INNOCENT, just to "punish" the guilty!

That is a sin WITHOUT EQUAL. Your god is a monster.
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But you know of God, as He has revealed Himself to you.
Lie-- your god has never "revealed" himself to ANYONE. Not me.

AND NOT YOU-- especially not YOU.
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You are just in denial.
Nope-- I've never been to Egypt.

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And you atheists need to evolve some manners...
Oh wait, as an atheist you are not required to have manners as morality is just a subjective choice.
Carry on then...
Pot? Meet kettle.

You have deliberately tried to slander ME, by accusing me of this "sin".

And you have the GALL to claim "good manners"?

Wow... just... wow. Your hypocrisy is .. breathtaking.

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"All newborns, toddlers and most children are atheist"
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Yes.

Do they have ANY knowledge of ANY gods?

No. They lack all knowledge of everything.

Therefore? They are atheists-- for without knowledge you certainly cannot have FAITH.

Can you?

And atheists simply lack faith in gods. That's it.

Scientifically proven: all infants are born without faith (atheists).

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You must be doing some awesome drugs to write nonsensical BS like that...
Indeed: the willful ignorance (self lies) is strong with this one.

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Lincoln wrote:
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Funny using topix as a source.:---)
Voted for Obama, who is also a Christian.
Atheists 5% of the population
surging toward 5.5%.
Nope-- that number is more like 20% surging to 21%.

Do try to keep up.

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President Obama was Very inclusive yesterday.
Did he mention atheists?
I don't rightly know-- I did not listen.

But I did vote for him, as being the best that was on the table.

I definitely didn't want Reagan 3.5 (Mitt the Twitt and misogynist Ryan). Those two would have sent us to another 1929 crash, within a month.

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Toward you or your church?
As for you, you're just naïve and presumptuous. Yours are ancient arguments refuted many times by many people. You don't deserve more than a gentle correction.
But your church? It deserves all of the contempt that can be mustered for it.
RAmen, It Ain't! RAmen!

All the contempt, piled with heaps of derision too.

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