Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24182 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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William Tyndale

Clearlake, CA

#10903 Jan 22, 2013
Adam wrote:
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I think Atheists too have awe and wonder at nature. They just dont ascribe supernatural entities to it.
Theists do try to describe mysteries, but using stories which are mythical and nonsensical. The so called holy books are absurd creations.
Appreciating nature is a good thing. But I was referring to the underlining mystery, the glue that holds the complexity of what is together.

Try to picture nothingness. No space, no time, no consciousness. Nothing.

Now try to explain it's opposite and how it came to be.

Cant?

This is the mystery.

We are the product of whatever this mystery is.

Since: Mar 11

Portage, MI

#10904 Jan 22, 2013
Atheists are people who do not believe in deities after that it varies person to person.

You Christholes need to stop telling us what we think or believe and start asking us. Gasp! What a concept!
William Tyndale wrote:
Actually I think it sounds best like this:
Great scientists, great philosophers, great mystics, all have in common a deep respect, a deep sense of awe for the mystery of what is.
Atheists try to deny it.
Theists try to define it.
Religions try to control it.
I should have composed it better the first time :)

“Think&Care”

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#10905 Jan 22, 2013
William Tyndale wrote:
Great scientists, great philosophers, great mystics, all have in common a deep respect, a deep sense of awe for the mystery of what is.
Theists try to describe the indescribable.
Atheists try to deny it.
No,*scientists* try to understand the universe.

Theists say 'we have all the answers, now stop thinking about it'.

Atheists simply don't have a belief in a deity.
Lincoln

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#10906 Jan 22, 2013
Adam wrote:
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But thankfully not successful enough to become President.
Survey after survey shows decline in religious belief in the US, so I think there are signs for hope in the future.
"Survey after survey shows decline in religious belief .." not really...may be valid on topix threads.
Produce the polls?

No atheist has ever been elected President.
President Obama's inauguration filled with prayers which may have placed the Republicans on notice.
After all the desperate republican "he is Muslim and from Kenya" stuff is discounted, Prayer played a major part yesterday.
.... free exercise of religion!
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#10907 Jan 22, 2013
So no great scientists can be Atheists?

BS
William Tyndale wrote:
Great scientists, great philosophers, great mystics, all have in common a deep respect, a deep sense of awe for the mystery of what is.
Atheists try to deny it.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#10908 Jan 22, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Indeed...
That is where atheism takes the individual.
To irrationality...
That is called "a response in kind".
Since atheism isn't an "ism", but the lack of an "ism", your asertation could hardly be true. So tell us what happened here, when you posted this >>> "Prejudiced emotive faulty appeal..." <<< word salad light? Your "ism" not quite up to par, nowadays? We are seeing more and more of that, as "isms" fail to hold their own against simple common sense.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

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#10909 Jan 22, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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I have been presenting logical arguments like the argument:
That the atheist in their desperation to deny God, ends up having to deny all the transcendent laws that govern the universe, in particular those relating to morality and logic.
So much so that they are reduced to logical absurdity, clearly showing their worldview has some major issues that precludes them even engaging in logical discussions...
There is nothing logical about arguing from a position that cannot be supported with actual evidence. Setting up your own definitions and descriptions of something (atheists in this case) then arguing against that definition or description is just plain stupid.

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#10910 Jan 22, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Obviously I do not accept your twisted interpretation of the Bible on this matter.
Then why do you think anyone should accept your twisted interpretation of atheism? At least those pointing out the twisted morals of the Bible actually know what is stated in the Bible. The fact that you choose to interpret the ridiculousness of the Bible in a way that takes the edge off is your problem. Don't you find it odd that you need to interpret something claimed to be the 'inerrant word of a 'god' in such a way as to remove the vileness of the way it is actually written??

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

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#10911 Jan 22, 2013
McNeil wrote:
Why shouldn't there be a God is my question? What's there to look forward to after you die? Why would you fight so hard to to prove that a person does not exist, when that same person is willing to offer you salvation? Doest make sense..
Hey, if believing there is a god, even though there is no evidence that it exists, helps get you through your day... go for it. If believing there is everlasting life waiting for you after you die, and that helps you sleep at night... knock yourself out. BTW... how can something (god in this case) that can't even be shown to exist in the first place offer anything? Believing in something for which no evidence has ever existed doesn't make any more sense than believing there are faeries living in your garden... or that garden gnomes come to life after dark... or that leprechauns keep pots of gold at the end of rainbows. All are claims without evidence and all can be dismissed using that same lack of evidence.

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#10912 Jan 22, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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No, morality is about living in a society and the happiness of those in the society. Rape does not contribute to the happiness of those in the society. Empathy is a fundamental aspect of human biology. Morality is based on empathy.
What if committing rape gives people pleasure in the society?

What then?

If pleasure is the deciding factor, as you have stated.

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#10913 Jan 22, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Since you clearly don't understand even the basics of what science says, let alone how science and atheism differ, I would recommend not commenting on things you do not understand.
Do you have a reason to make this claim?

Do you have anything to offer on this other than your own arbirtrary opinion?

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#10914 Jan 22, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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No, we appeal to the empathy that is central to social species like ours. The progress of morality is the progress of empathy towards those who religion and other doctrines say are subhuman.
So is rape morally wrong in a society that practices rape?

I notice your empathy to non atheists is lacking, are you waiting for that to evolve?:-)

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#10915 Jan 22, 2013
McNeil wrote:
Why shouldn't there be a God is my question? What's there to look forward to after you die? Why would you fight so hard to to prove that a person does not exist, when that same person is willing to offer you salvation? Doest make sense..
It does if you let the Bible explain it.

Man has been in rebellion since Eve's sin in the Garden of Eden.

Since that time, mankind has been trying to suppress the knowledge of God.

Usually by lying to themselves and convincing themselves the lie is true.

They got so successful that at one point, God flooded the earth.

They are also getting to the same point again, which is a sign that Jesus Second Coming is about here.

As in the days of Noah etc...

So it all makes perfect sense.

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#10916 Jan 22, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Because the price you extract is too high. Your religion is one of hate, oppression and abuse.
It does not matter which of the supernatural woo you are victimized by currently-- they all abuse their followers.
Finally? I must ask... "salvation"... from ... what? Death is death--there is nothing beyond it as far as you (or anyone) can prove.
That's it. Finis.
So, no-- your mewlings here make no sense in the least.
And the opening statement proves the point.

The reason you reject the gospel is because it demands more than you are willing to give up.

Your sins in other words...

To justify that, you try to attribute Gods character as immoral, using His standards of absolute morality, which you cannot account for as an atheist, to try to justify your own sin.

But you know of God, as He has revealed Himself to you.

You are just in denial.

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#10917 Jan 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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You should be more concerned with living a full life so you don't care if there is a second one. Buying snake oil is a sign of gullibility, not one of intelligence, and you bought the snake oil.
Why should he be concerned?

According to your worldview, he is just a distant relation to a rock.

So I don't understand why you would attribute any purpose to his life?

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#10918 Jan 22, 2013
albtraum wrote:
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It would be easier to herd cats than to have a coherant conversation with you. When you get through playing with rocks try learning about bigger and better things.
Ignorance can be alleviated by education "but you can't fix stupid".
Do you have a rational response to offer to the points in hand, or are you hoping that I will be blinded by your arbitrary zeal and leave the discussion because of it?

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#10919 Jan 22, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Can you show where The bible says incest is forbidden? No this happens often in the bible.
How about slavery being forbidden? No in fact Pail demanded a run away slave return to his Christian slave master.
How about sex with children? No in fact children are often raped as spoils of war and slaves in the bible.
How about discriminating against women? No and lol at even trying!
Yet secular morality today an for some time now has forbidden these heinous acts. Your retarded god's morality in that pitiful myth falls short.
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Some interesting claims you make here.

Lets pick one of these and see how you justify it, logically and rationally.

Can you please point out where God commanded people to have sex with children?

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

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#10920 Jan 22, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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And the opening statement proves the point.
The reason you reject the gospel is because it demands more than you are willing to give up.
I'd guess that like me, he's not willing to give up logic and reason in order to persue fantasy as fact.

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#10921 Jan 22, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
For this to be logical first you must demonstrate there is a god. Second that it is a logical moral god. Third this desperation.
Since you can't possibly get past the first item you are the illogical poster.
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The evidence for God is self attesting.

If He did not exist, you would not be able to account for reason, you would not be able to account for morality and would not be able to account for scientific processes.
Lincoln

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#10922 Jan 22, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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The evidence for God is self attesting.
If He did not exist, you would not be able to account for reason, you would not be able to account for morality and would not be able to account for scientific processes.
You feel this is logical?

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