Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 23584 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Henry

Markneukirchen, Germany

#10813 Jan 21, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Hitler was a Christian like we have most Christian in Western countries.
They have a Christian sounding name and they "celebrate" Christmas and Easter and New year.
That ends their "Christianity part of the life". For rest part of their lives they are like "any other people"!!
And "every one loves" these "broadminded Christians"
Why blame Hitler for being a Christian?
Hitler had close relations with the pope. The pope and the Roman Catholic Church was praying for the victories of the Nazi army!
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#10814 Jan 21, 2013
Funny, we used to tell that joke about the Tyson vs Lewis fight.
"I don't know which boxer is which, but that's definitely Don King in the middle!"
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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A woman has the images of her favorite sex symbols - Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise - tattooed to the insides of her thighs. When the artist is finished, the woman looks down and expresses her dismay at the poor job that he has done.
The artist points out that she is in no position to judge his work, since she is seeing it upside down. So they agree to let a third party – the first one to walk by the tattoo shop - be the final arbiter.
That just happens to be a street drunk, who is stumbling by at that moment. They beckon the drunk enter, and to please try to identify the celebrities between the woman’s legs. He agrees.
After a few seconds of staring, reeling, and squinting the drunk announces,“I can't say who the two on the ends are, but the one in the middle is the spittin’ image of Willie Nelson.”
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#10815 Jan 21, 2013
Solzhenitsyn strongly condemned the bombing of Yugoslavia during the Kosovo War, saying "there is no difference whatsoever between NATO and Hitler."

He was a pr*ck- like you.
digitaldan wrote:
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Atheism is amoral.
It is not just an amazing coincidence that every Communist of historical note publicly declared his atheism. There have been twenty-eight countries in world history that can be confirmed to have been ruled by regimes with avowed atheists at the helm. These twenty-eight historical regimes have been ruled by eighty-nine atheists, of whom more than half have engaged in democidal acts of the sort committed by Stalin and Mao. The total body count for the ninety years between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead at the bloody hands of fifty-two atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined! The historical record of collective atheism is thousands of times worse on an annual basis than Christianity’s worst and most infamous bloodbath, the Spanish Inquisition.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn wrote on the great disaster of Russia:
"I have spend well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than this: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened."
Henry

Markneukirchen, Germany

#10816 Jan 21, 2013
BBSting wrote:
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Religion's truths are absolute. Science's truths are always undergoing modification.
Well, all religions are based on myths or even crimes. Science are based on realities, thats true, science undergo often modifications!
Henry

Markneukirchen, Germany

#10817 Jan 21, 2013
digitaldan wrote:
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Atheism is amoral.
It is not just an amazing coincidence that every Communist of historical note publicly declared his atheism. There have been twenty-eight countries in world history that can be confirmed to have been ruled by regimes with avowed atheists at the helm. These twenty-eight historical regimes have been ruled by eighty-nine atheists, of whom more than half have engaged in democidal acts of the sort committed by Stalin and Mao. The total body count for the ninety years between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead at the bloody hands of fifty-two atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined! The historical record of collective atheism is thousands of times worse on an annual basis than Christianity’s worst and most infamous bloodbath, the Spanish Inquisition.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn wrote on the great disaster of Russia:
"I have spend well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than this: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened."
There was not a single god at all!

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#10818 Jan 21, 2013
digitaldan wrote:
Stalin and Mao. The total body count for the ninety years between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead
Totalitarian ideologies like Stalinism and Maoism are simply religions like Islam and Christianity, but with human gods. They are all cults of personality, where worship of the leader and devotion to his pronouncements is demanded. They are equally authoritarian and intolerant, and each have long histories of genocide.

Secular humanism, which is only guilty of giving the world modern liberal democracies, human rights, and science, repudiates it all:

"We affirm humanism as a realistic alternative to theologies of despair and ideologies of violence and as a source of rich personal significance and genuine satisfaction in the service to others."

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#10819 Jan 21, 2013
digitaldan wrote:
Christianity’s worst and most infamous bloodbath, the Spanish Inquisition.
You say that like it's no big deal. It's a perfect illustration that a Christian upbringing is no impediment to torture. Likewise with the witch burnings at Salem, and the Nazi holocaust. These all occurred in countries that were populated almost exclusively by Christians.

Why? Two reasons.

First, Christians are taught that whatever their god says,does or commands is moral. If you can convince a Christian that his god commands him to enucleate the eyes of puppies with a fork, they'll do it and call it perfect love.

Second, Christians are desensitized by a bible that catalogs its god's genocides and other atrocities one after another, chapter after chapter. They are taught that suffering is their god's will, that man is weak and dependent on the god, and that their god will change things if it wants to, so they accept almost anything.

This combinations of ideas has been devastating throughout history. Because of that attitude, if you were a Jew in Nazi Germany, and the only thing standing between you and the gas chambers was the quality of Christian morality and character, you didn't have much chance. If you were waiting for these tens of millions of church trained Christians to do what Jesus taught and stand up and say, "This is wrong! Stop, Herr Hitler!" you were a dead Jew.

Have you ever heard or read, "Kill them all and let God sort them out"? Where do you suppose that idea came from?

Humanism has no such failures.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#10820 Jan 21, 2013
Thinking wrote:
muslim sex dolls are great for asthmatics.
They blow themselves up.
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LOL.

I've got a good sex doll cultural reference for you.

is a one minute excerpt from the HBO series "Six Feet Under," which was about an American family that ran a funeral home. Every episode of this show began with a death that usually connected to the episode, and this is the opening death scene from one episode.

Let me set this up for you: We see a truck loaded with helium filled sex dolls being delivered by a couple of teenage boys to the venue of a porn industry awards banquet scheduled for later that night.

Unfortunately, the boys aren't paying attention to the road, and have to slam on their brakes, releasing all of the blowup dolls from the truck into the air.

A block or two away is a priggish Christian woman listening to Christian radio while driving her car, which has an "I break for the rapture" bumper sticker on it. She sees the helium dolls rising, mistakes it for the rapture, and hilarity ensues.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#10821 Jan 21, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Funny, we used to tell that joke about the Tyson vs Lewis fight.
"I don't know which boxer is which, but that's definitely Don King in the middle!"
It's a great joke.

I think my version needs updating, though. Pitt and Cruise might be a little passé in 2013.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#10822 Jan 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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You say that like it's no big deal. It's a perfect illustration that a Christian upbringing is no impediment to torture. Likewise with the witch burnings at Salem, and the Nazi holocaust. These all occurred in countries that were populated almost exclusively by Christians.
Why? Two reasons.
First, Christians are taught that whatever their god says,does or commands is moral. If you can convince a Christian that his god commands him to enucleate the eyes of puppies with a fork, they'll do it and call it perfect love.
Second, Christians are desensitized by a bible that catalogs its god's genocides and other atrocities one after another, chapter after chapter. They are taught that suffering is their god's will, that man is weak and dependent on the god, and that their god will change things if it wants to, so they accept almost anything.
This combinations of ideas has been devastating throughout history. Because of that attitude, if you were a Jew in Nazi Germany, and the only thing standing between you and the gas chambers was the quality of Christian morality and character, you didn't have much chance. If you were waiting for these tens of millions of church trained Christians to do what Jesus taught and stand up and say, "This is wrong! Stop, Herr Hitler!" you were a dead Jew.
Have you ever heard or read, "Kill them all and let God sort them out"? Where do you suppose that idea came from?
Humanism has no such failures.
Hello, Aint! I trust you are well. I see you're still using logic and reason against the illogical and unreasonable
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#10823 Jan 21, 2013
Poor Dorothy... hope they didn't fill her with helium.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL.
I've got a good sex doll cultural reference for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =1LXuNpF6NVgXX is a one minute excerpt from the HBO series "Six Feet Under," which was about an American family that ran a funeral home. Every episode of this show began with a death that usually connected to the episode, and this is the opening death scene from one episode.
Let me set this up for you: We see a truck loaded with helium filled sex dolls being delivered by a couple of teenage boys to the venue of a porn industry awards banquet scheduled for later that night.
Unfortunately, the boys aren't paying attention to the road, and have to slam on their brakes, releasing all of the blowup dolls from the truck into the air.
A block or two away is a priggish Christian woman listening to Christian radio while driving her car, which has an "I break for the rapture" bumper sticker on it. She sees the helium dolls rising, mistakes it for the rapture, and hilarity ensues.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#10824 Jan 21, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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No. Abiogenesis is how the *first* life got started. The question is how the complexity of the chemical reactions initially developed. You were talking about whether non-living things 'create' living things. The answer to *that* question is a definite *yes*.
So a rock did do it...:-)

And if a rock did it, then morality does not exist.

Because without absolute morality, you cannot define any morality...

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#10825 Jan 21, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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No, religious truths *claim* to be absolute. But they are not. In fact, they are mostly wrong of meaningless.
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Yes, science has the ability to modify its beliefs to repair its mistakes. Religions, however, simply claim that their new ways have always been done. Science is honest and religion is dishonest.
I cannot argue for "religion".

I am arguing for the Creator God as revealed through the specific persona and life of Jesus Christ.

And the position of Christianity, is that it is absolute in truth because it proceeds from an absolute God.

But you would need to qualify what you mean when you say "science"?

Are you talking about empirical deductive observations forming what we term "science"?

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#10826 Jan 21, 2013
Henry wrote:
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Of course I am sure about that! It is science about abiogenesis that is sure!
This is a fallacy of reification.

Science does not have a personal goal in this or care.

And abiogenesis is not a person either...

So it cannot hold an opinion.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#10827 Jan 21, 2013
Henry wrote:
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The more people are educated,the more people become atheists!
The problem with much of modern secular education is that it teaches people what to think and not how to think...

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#10828 Jan 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Correct.
"Amoral vs. immoral- Immoral things are bad, and amoral things are either neutral from a moral perspective or simply removed from moral considerations." http://grammarist.com/usage/amoral-immoral/
Christianity is immoral.
Your religion, which is grounded in a fraud, fosters fear, guilt, shame, division and strife. It teaches man to fear and hate his world, and to despise his own flesh. It teaches him to crawl on his knees begging for forgiveness for being human, and to see decay everywhere he looks.
If atheism is "amoral", then how can you argue as an atheist, that something else is immoral?
Henry

Markneukirchen, Germany

#10829 Jan 21, 2013
rio wrote:
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I am surprised that you don't know that prior to Hitler (up to 1933), Germany was a democracy.
So once Hitler and his party had been defeated, Germany was able to return to its democratic institutions. They were never imposed by the allies.
In Japan, the US were quite prudent in leaving the Emperor Hiro-Hito in place as head of state, instead of judging him as war criminal. The reforms were very superficial and not imposed. Japan always had a liberal audience that came to the fore when the warlords were tried and executed. Japan was allowed to trade military power against economic power, and gain self esteem that way.
The US rearmed Germany again against the UdSSR. Most of the nazis stayed in its positions, in Japan too!
Henry

Markneukirchen, Germany

#10830 Jan 21, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Why do Muslims blow themselves up to kill non Muslims?
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German imkperialism is again on its march!
Henry

Markneukirchen, Germany

#10831 Jan 21, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Why do Muslims blow themselves up to kill non Muslims?
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In 1945 The pope organised the socalled rat line in order to bring nazis to South America with the knowledge of the US!
Henry

Markneukirchen, Germany

#10832 Jan 21, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot all atheists murders.
Crimes of atheist leaders plagued the 20th century.
Many Scientists are left handed
Harry Truman ordered the atom bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and committed war crimes!

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