Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Apr 25, 2012 Full story: Psychology Today 22,116

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#10703 Jan 18, 2013
ronan wrote:
It all depends by what people mean by "defeat".
Atheists becoming the majority of people on the planet?
Atheists banning religions?
Most people drifting away from religion turn to become agnostics anyway.
Atheism itself is some form of faith.
Why should Atheism be faith? Atheism has nothing to do with any kind of "faith". It is science but not"faith"! Educated people have mostly to do with science but not with myths, which are religious stone age rests in the best way.
Henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#10704 Jan 18, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Why would you care?
Atheists embrace inconsistent morality.
They promote the idea of subjective morality.
So why are you contending that it is wrong to be inconsistent morally?
Are you using Gods laws of morality to argue that God doesn't exist again and has no claim on you?
There is not the faintest idea of a god. The morality of religions is bound to societies. But religions are bound on divers myths.
Henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#10705 Jan 18, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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Do you still kill witches?
Religious morality is the most inconsistent morality imaginable.
Morality is class bound. For instance the morality of the stone age is different from the society of the slaveowners and in feudalism and capitalism. Socialism has turned to a different morality.
Henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#10706 Jan 18, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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Yes, if you claim that morals come from an invisible supernatural sky deity without any evidence what-so-ever to substantiat your claim or at least differentiate it from all the other deity claims, then you are right.
I do try to be patient with stupidity, but not with those that are so proud of it as you are.
God of course is nonexistent and has no morality at all:
Henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#10707 Jan 18, 2013
BBSting wrote:
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The myths of science are hardly truth and knowledge.
Myths are not existing. Science is based on realities!

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#10708 Jan 18, 2013
DJ Hewlet wrote:
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The production of amino acids under laboratory conditions is touted as proof of abiogenesis, but there's a hitch. All experiments producing some amino acids, do so only as a result of using an atmosphere specifically engineered to yield amino acids. Instead of searching for existing evidence that would support the idea of abiogenesis, researchers manufacture it. This is not science. This is called rigging the results
And they use atmospheres that are similar to what we think the earth had at the time. So?
Henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#10709 Jan 18, 2013
BBSting wrote:
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The myths of science are hardly truth and knowledge.
Of course science is based on facts not on myths. Yes religions are based on myths, that is why myths are based on phantasm!

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#10710 Jan 18, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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So non life didn't spontaneously create life then?
A *very* strange way to say it. Non-living chemicals became able to sustain the reactions and reproduce, which is life. Life *is* a complex collection of chemical reactions. None of the atoms in your body is alive, yet you are. Which shows that non-living atoms can work together to make life.
A rock didn't do it?
No, a rock did not do it. Most rocks are chemically simple. They are far away from the complexities of life. Instead, a complex chemical atmosphere, energy sources like lightning, the UV from the early sun, and deep sea vents, the disolving properties of water, ALL combined to produce the complex chemical reactions that are life.
And this evidence you keep pointing to, can you produce it?
Empirical evidence of course, as that is the only evidence that really accounts according to your own standards.
There are several different lines of evidence, from the simulations of the environments of the early earth, to the chemical reactions happening in our bodies, to the chemicals seen in interstellar space that are the same as the building blocks for life.

Do we have all the details? No. Do we have enough to see the outline? Yes.
Henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#10711 Jan 18, 2013
albtraum wrote:
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What does truth and knowledge have to do with appeal? You only accept facts as facts if they are popular and appealing?
Very sad.
Facts base on realities they may be popular or appealing. Religions at the worst are fakes, mostly they are myths!
Henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#10712 Jan 18, 2013
BBSting wrote:
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The myths of science are hardly truth and knowledge.
Science has nothing to do with myths, it is based on facts and realities! Science is always on the move as is realities.
Henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#10713 Jan 18, 2013
albtraum wrote:
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He has shown much more scientific knowledge than you could ever hope to display. Fact.
Also the little fact that you attempt to pronounce judgement on a concept you can't even begin to understand only accentuates your ignorance.
In your unwitting arrogance, you are a poster child in favor of atheism. Never drink and drive. Learn to separate reality from myths, they just don't mix well.
You amuse me, I never have said reality and myth mix! Religions are totally based on myths. Atheism may be a private occation but the public has to come off of these myths!

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#10714 Jan 18, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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A *very* strange way to say it. Non-living chemicals became able to sustain the reactions and reproduce, which is life. Life *is* a complex collection of chemical reactions. None of the atoms in your body is alive, yet you are. Which shows that non-living atoms can work together to make life.
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No, a rock did not do it. Most rocks are chemically simple. They are far away from the complexities of life. Instead, a complex chemical atmosphere, energy sources like lightning, the UV from the early sun, and deep sea vents, the disolving properties of water, ALL combined to produce the complex chemical reactions that are life.
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There are several different lines of evidence, from the simulations of the environments of the early earth, to the chemical reactions happening in our bodies, to the chemicals seen in interstellar space that are the same as the building blocks for life.
Do we have all the details? No. Do we have enough to see the outline? Yes.
Lots of different rock did it...

Same argument, increasing the complexity does not remove the analogy.

Non life created life, that is the basic argument of most atheists.
Henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#10715 Jan 18, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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Do you still kill witches?
Religious morality is the most inconsistent morality imaginable.
On another poster I declared that morality is class bound. I do not repeat this again! Religious morality is of course class bound too!

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#10716 Jan 18, 2013
I notice many on here keep arguing that morality is subjective, but then they keep arguing absolute moral positions.

This type of inconsistency is a self refuting evidence that the idea of subjective morality is a bankrupt idea logically.

Not one of you has yet been able to deal with this...

Coherently and logically.

Arbitrary opinions don't count...
Henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#10717 Jan 18, 2013
BBSting wrote:
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The myths of science are hardly truth and knowledge.
Science are of course no myths but realities and truth!

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#10718 Jan 18, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Lots of different rock did it...
Same argument, increasing the complexity does not remove the analogy.
Non life created life, that is the basic argument of most atheists.
Actually, that is irrelevant to atheism. Non-life 'creates' life. Period. it does so within your body. No atom in your body is alive. But the combination of them *is* alive. So life *is*, in fact, created by non-life.
Henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#10719 Jan 18, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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So you are your own absolute standard when it comes to defining morality?
What if your neighbour believes they are also their own absolute standard and they disagree with you.
Who is right, them or you?
You are making arbitrary claims about absolute morality, based on your own perceived authority.
But are you omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent and eternal in nature?
Because that is what you need to be if you want to set yourself as the final authority on absolute morality...
Do you understand your own reasoning on this point and the absurd conclusion it takes you to?
I am very against to be of an absolute morality. Often I have declared that morality is class bound and to that I stay!
Henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#10720 Jan 18, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Why would you care?
Atheists embrace inconsistent morality.
They promote the idea of subjective morality.
So why are you contending that it is wrong to be inconsistent morally?
Are you using Gods laws of morality to argue that God doesn't exist again and has no claim on you?
Of course I deny that there is any god at all! So god is nonexisting in any way!

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#10721 Jan 18, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Actually, that is irrelevant to atheism. Non-life 'creates' life. Period. it does so within your body. No atom in your body is alive. But the combination of them *is* alive. So life *is*, in fact, created by non-life.
So you are claiming abiogenesis is happening in everyone right now???

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#10722 Jan 18, 2013
Henry wrote:
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I am very against to be of an absolute morality. Often I have declared that morality is class bound and to that I stay!
Are you absolutely sure about that?

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