Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Apr 25, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Psychology Today

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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How do you know your neutrons are not misaligned?
Is there ever a time when it is ok to kill one member of the species for the greater good of the rest of the species?
Did you mean neurons? There are times when some species consider it okay, and in the wilds there will always be a call for such. But we are no longer in the wilds, so we adapt our morals to the new environment. There is more value to saving all lives, for each human will have a skill set that when put to proper use will benefit us all.
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Khatru wrote:
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Absolute morality?
Like the the "Honour thy father and mother" commandment?
What if you father is Josef Fritzl? I'm sure you remember him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzl_case
Do you honestly believe that Fritzl's daughters should still honour that man? If you do, then your sense of morality is pretty degenerate.
If, however, you admit that it doesn't apply in this particular case, then your morals are hardly an absolute rule.
Are there any other options available, or are the above the only options?
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jacktheladat1 wrote:
<quoted text>I'm a DEVOUT atheist, which does not mean I have to be omniscient. I KNOW that my reasoning makes sense, where any religion doesn't.
So you think it is reasonable to have faith that "a rock did it"?

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Do you accept the idea that non-life produced life?
If you do, then my question is:
Did you observe that?
At one time there was no life ... now there is. It had to come from non-life, regardless of the mechanism, even if it was some magical monster in the sky, it was still life from non-life.
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Stop shouting.
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ANNETTE WILL GO AT ANY LENGTH TO KILL THE FAMILY, FOR THE ROOT OF HER EVIL, IS LIES, AND THE ESTATE FRAUD OF LOUISE DEARDEN MARION, ANNETTE OWES, OPVER 2 M IN SALARY TO YVETTE FOR CAREGIVER, AND 1.4 MILLION DOLLAR HOME, AND RIPARIAN STOCK VA BEACH HOLIDAY INN, TON LYONE ORIGINAL INVESTOR, FORM THE 1960S., ANNETTE CPMS OSD, MIL AND PRES OBAMA (COMMAND AND CONTROL OF THE MILITARY AND GOVERNMENT) IS FACING CHARGES OF ASSISTING ANNETTE MARION WITH FRAUD AND KILL/RID OF THE FAMILY.
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Like the ka'ba?
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So you think it is reasonable to have faith that "a rock did it"?
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Wrathbone wrote:
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Obviously you find the idea of being part of God threatening, and yet you are not personally diminished. As co-creators with God, we have the ability to create a sane and just society in which to live...
I dont really get this new age talk. Preferrable to the old age religions, but why does anyone need the comfort blanket of any religion anyway?

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mtimber wrote:
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You have stated an absolute moral position.
Why do you get to decide that?
What authority do you appeal to?
You haven't either. Although I have repeatedly asked you to define just 1 absolute moral position that you can show originated from your religion.
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I said God is individualized in me and in all things. If we are co-creators with God endowed with the same abilities to fix things, why would we need an overseer to do it for us?
We need none and we have none, god is not!

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mtimber wrote:
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You haven't offered one rational point of discussion yet.
Calling someone a troll is another example of this thread running through your posts.
Do you have something rational to offer?
Already did - and all you did in return was ask another question without bothering to make a point.

That's what makes you a troll.

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Did you mean neurons? There are times when some species consider it okay, and in the wilds there will always be a call for such. But we are no longer in the wilds, so we adapt our morals to the new environment. There is more value to saving all lives, for each human will have a skill set that when put to proper use will benefit us all.
So morality is little more than expediency...?

If it is just expediency, how can you argue it is right or wrong?

You are being inconsistent.

So why would anyone accept your irrational position as having any value?

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At one time there was no life ... now there is. It had to come from non-life, regardless of the mechanism, even if it was some magical monster in the sky, it was still life from non-life.
So you accept:

"A rock did it."

By faith?

And you think that is rational?

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You haven't either. Although I have repeatedly asked you to define just 1 absolute moral position that you can show originated from your religion.
Absolute morality requires an absolute God by definition...

It is self attesting.

All absolute moral positions come from God.
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So you accept:
"A rock did it."
By faith?
And you think that is rational?

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Just Think wrote:
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Already did - and all you did in return was ask another question without bothering to make a point.
That's what makes you a troll.
Your emotionally arbitrary statements show a lack of the capacity to reason clearly and objectively.

Every time you post in this manner, you merely display your ignorance of the methods of logical discussion and debate.
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No, it's consensus driven.
Far better that than some paedophile ridden church deciding on your behalf.
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So morality is little more than expediency...?

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mtimber wrote:
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So you accept:
"A rock did it."
By faith?
And you think that is rational?
You lack of understanding of biochemistry in particular and science in general is not our problem. However there is a whole Topix Forum dedicated to Evolution, you should avail yourself of it ... that is, if you really want to learn something about abiogenesis or evolution.

At least we have some evidence to hypothesize various scenarios for abiogenesis. That's a thousand percent more than any evidence for **poof* some invisible sky deity did it.

But I do find it interesting that your question infers that you understand that belief on faith is irrational.

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mtimber wrote:
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Absolute morality requires an absolute God by definition...
It is self attesting.
All absolute moral positions come from God.
You keep saying that but you have yet to name one that you can show originated from any god.

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Thinking wrote:
No, it's consensus driven.
Far better that than some paedophile ridden church deciding on your behalf.
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So if the consensus was that child abuse was ok, you would go with that?

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So morality is little more than expediency...?
If it is just expediency, how can you argue it is right or wrong?
You are being inconsistent.
So why would anyone accept your irrational position as having any value?
My position is based only on reason and logic, and is supported by evidence. Did you know that gorillas are known to actually care for human young when presented with such an opportunity? At least they try, it's only the adults they see as threats. This kind of morality is seen in other species, who will adopt orphans of similar species and care for them.

Morality is purely subjective, but our survival traits influence them a lot, and survival of the species takes priority over survival of the self. The best way to ensure survival of the species is to work together and protect as many of your species as possible, it's a very basic set of survival traits and instincts, and fully understood on how they came about, oddly. Your "morality" includes stoning people for being different, enslaving people of other tribes, and genocide. The rest of us have evolved past these primitive and self defeating "morals," you refuse to, so you have to make an excuse of why you hold onto them.

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