Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Apr 25, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Psychology Today

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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You did not answer the question.
Because you have no basis to account for right and wrong, for an atheist, it just IS...
So with that in mind, why do you even bother to have an opinion on this subject?
Why would we need the threat of hellfire or the promise of heaven to know right from wrong?

I don't need to believe in hell to keep me from stealing and I can help my neighbor without chalking up another point to get me to heaven. Truthfully, I think that's a pitiful thing for a fully grown adult to have to adhere to, but if it keeps you from shooting people in a shopping mall.....go for it. I don't need it.

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Would you define what you would deem acceptable proof?
Pray for a mountain to move....let's see if it does...the bible says it will. C'mon, what have you got to lose?

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So if you lived in a society that said killing witches was ok you would go along with that?
No. So if you could still burn people at the stake who disagreed with your religion would you?

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mtimber wrote:
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I have a basis for moral objectivity, because of my Christian worldview, how do you account for yours?
Then you should have no problem documenting at least 1 moral precept that you can show originated from your religion.

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So you cannot prove abiogenesis empirically...
So you accept it by faith?
No, I tacitly consider the evidence.

You got any evidence for **poof** goddidit?

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I do have a trancendentant source for absolute morality, which you do not accept.
But as we both know that you cannot supply any basis for absolute morality, why are you concerned with the concepts of right and wrong?
Because apparently Christians don't understand the difference. You think you can do anything you want, as long as you "repent" to some invisible make believe deity afterward, everything's okay. That's sick.

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mtimber wrote:
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And upon what basis do you define immorality.
You said earlier that morality is societal, upon that basis why would you condemn any moral position mentioned in the bible?
The absolute morality that a religious person might profess would include stoning people for adultery, or gathering firewood on the Sabbath, death for being a witch, slavery, female subservience ... these are all things which are religiously-based absolute moralities. This morality is just sick.

I want a morality that is thought out, reasoned, argued, and discussed intelligently. Should we not expect a societal ethic we want to live in?

If you actually look at the moralities that are accepted among modern people, among 21st century people, we don’t believe in slavery anymore, we believe in equality of women, we don't burn people at the stake ... these are all things which are entirely recent. They have very little basis in any of the Abrahamic scriptures.

They are things that have developed over time through a consensus of reasoning, sober discussion, argument, legal theory, political and moral philosophy. They do not come from religion.

To the extent that you can find the good morals in religious scriptures, you have to cherry pick. You search your way through the Torah or Bible or Koran and you find the occasional verse that is an acceptable profession of morality and you say ‘look at that, that’s religion.’

And you leave out all the horrible bits and you say ‘oh we don’t believe that anymore, we’ve grown out of that.’

We’ve grown out of it because of secular moral philosophy and rational discussion.

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mtimber wrote:
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I do have a trancendentant source for absolute morality, which you do not accept.
But as we both know that you cannot supply any basis for absolute morality, why are you concerned with the concepts of right and wrong?
Absolute morality?

Like the the "Honour thy father and mother" commandment?

What if you father is Josef Fritzl? I'm sure you remember him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzl_case

Do you honestly believe that Fritzl's daughters should still honour that man? If you do, then your sense of morality is pretty degenerate.

If, however, you admit that it doesn't apply in this particular case, then your morals are hardly an absolute rule.

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More off topic spam walls of text. Reported.
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E. Long Chain of Eye Witnesses:
06. Then after some time, spam
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lol. Great post. If I may add, long dresses, as well as silly hats.
I have long since given-up on internet technology, it's a force unto its own. My above post is the last paragraph of four I intended to put forward. You'd have simply loved the full post.
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Are you omniscient?
I'm a DEVOUT atheist, which does not mean I have to be omniscient. I KNOW that my reasoning makes sense, where any religion doesn't.
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MUQ, noticed in the news Algerian Islamic terrorists have kidnapped and killed some Western oil workers. I realise the justification is in retaliation for a war being fought in Mail. But this is obviously motivated by fundamentalist islam. What do you think of kidnap, holding people for ransom, and murder of innocent people. Do you think they will be rewarded with 72 virgins per muslim?
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"need"?
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You need to go back and re-read the posts.
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muslim cu*t: "It is immodest to see women in public."

Normsl person: "Why?"

muslim cu*t: "Because I want to f**k 72 virgins."
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MUQ, noticed in the news Algerian Islamic terrorists have kidnapped and killed some Western oil workers. I realise the justification is in retaliation for a war being fought in Mail. But this is obviously motivated by fundamentalist islam. What do you think of kidnap, holding people for ransom, and murder of innocent people. Do you think they will be rewarded with 72 virgins per muslim?
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muslim cu*t: "It is immodest to see women in public."
Normsl person: "Why?"
muslim cu*t: "Because I want to f**k 72 virgins."
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Crude, but funny.. and true!

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Wait I believe a Muslim animal has to be a suicide bomber or die killing infidels to get the 72 virgins. Isn't that how it works Muq?
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muslim cu*t: "It is immodest to see women in public."
Normsl person: "Why?"
muslim cu*t: "Because I want to f**k 72 virgins."
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Time to revisit the comedy image of 72 uncles, 72 brothers and 72 fathers all waiting in heaven to carve up any "martyr" that tries to go near the 72 virgins!
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Wait I believe a Muslim animal has to be a suicide bomber or die killing infidels to get the 72 virgins. Isn't that how it works Muq?
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Thinking wrote:
Time to revisit the comedy image of 72 uncles, 72 brothers and 72 fathers all waiting in heaven to carve up any "martyr" that tries to go near the 72 virgins!
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Especially is the virgin thinks she is "the one", and then subsequently finds out the Muslim is sleeping with 71 others!!
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Religion will cease to exist sometime in the 21st century.
GOMER PILE STATED 'SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE....."TRACKPHONE AERIAL DRONE PHOTOGRAPHED BY YVETTE ANNE MARION H DICAMPLI IN KIEV, FOLLOWED HER TO MOSCOW FOR THE 'CELEBRATION MILITARY DAY' MAY 2012 IT WAS EXPERIMENTING ON RUSSIANS WHILE THE DEVICE WAS THERE, LONG AND SHORT WAVE RF FREQUENY, AND OTHER SIGINT, AND COMMINT. CAREFUL 'DO NOT TRUST AMERICA, NOR OBAMA' THEY WILL ALWAYS BE YOUR ENEMY., DEVICE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN LET IN.

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YVETTE ANNE MARION DICAMPLI, ESQ., STATE OF VIRGINIA.

RUMOR OF MORE LIES OF ANNETTE, SHE HAS BEEN QUOTED 'SHE WOULD TALK TO ANN ELDER, THERE IS NO ANN ELDER NOR HER 'BOYS' ANNETTE KNOWS NO BOYS, AND WHEN ANN WAS IN PRIOR 2004 BOYS ARE NOW 30 PLUS YEARS OLD.

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ANNETTE M MARION MAKES UP STORIES ABOUT THE BROTHERS, AND SHE DID THEM IN, NO ONE ASKED ANY OTHER RELATIVE, SHE IS UP TO HER TRICKS, THANK GOD HER RULE OF 40 PLUS YEARS WAS 'NO TALK TO YVETTE NOR THE MOTHER' ANNETTE IS ABUSIVE 'WALK ON EGGS AROUND HER''TISY FITS DAILY' MENTALLY ILL SINCE 67 DR HART STATED 'NEEDS TO BE CONFINDED SHE WILL KILL AND RID THE FAMILY' SHE IS DOING THAT.
trTRACKPHONE IS A KILLING AGENCY THE DRONE, AERIAL DEVICE NEW KILL 4 CIVILIANS
MY SISTER STATED 'NOT GOING TO HAPPEN' TOO TOOO SMART

MUCH RATED, PASSED ALL THE TEST. HHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAH

FAIRFAX CTY LIKE FATHER STATED IS RIGGED 'WITH THE SOCIAL WORKERS, THAT ANNETTE STUDIED SINCE DAD WAS ALIVE' ANNETTE IS FULL OF TRICKERY

MOTHER STATED TO YVETTE 'GET OUT OF THE USA THEY WILL KILL YOU, GP AND HER, GET OUT SHE ANNETTE IS A KILLER TELL ALL OF DOD, USARMY WHAT THEY DID TO YOU.....'

THE GUY AT NORTH STAR KNOWS, HE STATED 'OH RUSSIAN KNOW OF THE HORRIBLE TUSKEE EXPERIMENT WITH THE PRISIONERS AND SYPHILLUS THEY GAVE TO EXTERMINATE THEM.....'

YVETTE WAS HAPPY AND SHOCKED, TRUTH IS IN RUSSIA, AND LIES ARE IN THE USA., USA IS GOING TO BE NAZI OR DICTATORSHIP, AND ALL IS POINT ING TO A WAR COMING IN USA., LOSE.
trTRACKPHONE IS A KILLING AGENCY THE DRONE, AERIAL DEVICE NEW KILL 4 CIVILIANS
WAR IS COMING TO THE USA, PREDICTED WILL BE SOME PEOPLE KNOW
ALBERT T.
GERALD J

MY SISTER PREDICTED THE 911 PRIOR 8-90 YEARS BEFORE AND OJ SIMPSON, THE EARTHQUAKE SUSAMI IN JAPAN, AND OTHERS, WAR IS COMING TO USA AND US WILL LOSE. HIP HIP HIP HORAY

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KittenKoder wrote:
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Again, killing your own species is bad for the species, and we have evolved this notion with our other social traits. If you cannot see that killing your own is bad for the species without some mythology telling you it is, something is wrong with you, your brain in wired wrong, and your neurons are incorrectly aligned.
How do you know your neutrons are not misaligned?

Is there ever a time when it is ok to kill one member of the species for the greater good of the rest of the species?

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