Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Apr 25, 2012 Full story: Psychology Today 22,126

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#10476 Jan 16, 2013
Tautology.
Jeff wrote:
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True. What this means is that then they are forced to believe all kinds of silly absurd things because of it.
Lincoln

United States

#10477 Jan 16, 2013
jacktheladat1 wrote:
<quoted text>Christianity just provides toffs with eye-watering salaries for dressing-up, usually in silly head-wear, on Sundays. These people have never experienced life in reality. Probably nigh-on choked on a silver spoon.
M o r o n i c

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#10478 Jan 16, 2013
DJ Hewlet wrote:
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Excluding God doesn't disprove God therefore you cannot assume that Intelligent Design is a fallacy.
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And yet even the simplest cell is fantastically complex. Even the simplest self-reproducing organism contains encyclopedic quantities of complex, SPECIFIC information. Could science do better, could you? I seriously doubt it. To deny this obvious implication of Intelligent Design is to be deliberately obtuse.
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The knowledge that you are much more than a biological machine. The knowledge that the trials and tribulations, the joys and triumphs of your life's experiences with family and community have a reason for happening and will not simply evaporate upon your death....burn out like a shooting star.
When you feel profoundly grateful for being miraculously and unaccountably spared from certain death, who do you thank?
Naw, I assume ID isn't science because it has produced absolutely no scientifically testable or verifiable predictions about biology. NONE.

Well, that plus, I really don't think magic is an effective answer for anything and ID is founded on **poof** some invisible sky deity did it.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#10479 Jan 16, 2013
DJ Hewlet wrote:
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Excluding God doesn't disprove God therefore you cannot assume that Intelligent Design is a fallacy....
Oh, and I never said ID was a fallacy. A fallacy is a misleading or unsound argument.

ID isn't an "argument", it's just not science. Come up with some verifiable predictions that allow ID to be tested and clearly state the null hypothesis for these tests and then we can all consider ID on it's merits. Until you do that, you're just blowing smoke.

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#10480 Jan 16, 2013
This is definately not going to happen. LMTO
Just look at the religious groups, they MULTIPLY, babies babies babies... how about the aethists? Asking cause I don't think they're banging out as many as the bible thumpers.
Henry

Großengottern, Germany

#10481 Jan 16, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Well, so long as you are not claiming your god is fact, then you are not delusional.
There was never such a thing like god!
Henry

Großengottern, Germany

#10482 Jan 16, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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Does that mean there really is an Easter Bunny and there are unicorns and elves and leprechauns?
Religious myths are nonexisting realities!
Henry

Großengottern, Germany

#10483 Jan 16, 2013
DJ Hewlet wrote:
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Athiests are not selective. They deny the existence of all gods.
There is not the slightest sign of any gods at all!
Henry

Großengottern, Germany

#10484 Jan 16, 2013
Wrathbone wrote:
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That's the problem with atheists, they can't distinquish the difference between fact and fiction.
Atheists employ evidentialist principles to argue that a belief in God is irrational, yet they are unwilling to apply those same principles to atheism. Science has not demonstrated that there is no rational justification for a belief in God. In fact just the opposite is true. One of the most established principles of scientific logic is the principle of causality....meaning something that has a beginning has a sufficient cause. Atheists, who are enarmored with words like rational, reasonable, logical and "scientific" in describing their beliefs, believe the greatest irrationality of all....that of the universe had no cause whatsoever! Atheists therefore cannot use science to justify their disbelief. They have no excusable reason to treat their atheism differently than they treat a belief in God.
An honest atheist who lacks a belief in God, will not claim to know there is no God.
A bigoted atheist thinks no one is justified in believing that God exists.
A cowardly atheist will remove posts that threaten his disbelief.
That is silly. Atheists do not believe they know religions are myths at the least of not just lies!
Henry

Großengottern, Germany

#10485 Jan 16, 2013
rio wrote:
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Absolutely true, but that goes both way.
There is no evidence of absence of god either.
At no time was there a god!
Henry

Großengottern, Germany

#10486 Jan 16, 2013
Adam wrote:
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But which one? There are so many gods and so many religions to chose from.
Very sorry there are not any gods and religions are just myths nothing else or even something worse!
Henry

Großengottern, Germany

#10487 Jan 16, 2013
DJ Hewlet wrote:
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Athiests are not selective. They deny the existence of all gods.
No, gods are not existing, so they can not be denied!

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#10488 Jan 16, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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The problem is that there is plenty of evidence for God and millions believe it.
Think of the ramifications if you are right. One is that all you are is atoms in motion with not ultimate purpose.
I don't see that as being anything to be unduly worried about.

Why should there be a purpose?
Henry

Großengottern, Germany

#10489 Jan 16, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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Oh, and I never said ID was a fallacy. A fallacy is a misleading or unsound argument.
ID isn't an "argument", it's just not science. Come up with some verifiable predictions that allow ID to be tested and clearly state the null hypothesis for these tests and then we can all consider ID on it's merits. Until you do that, you're just blowing smoke.
ID is just garbage no more!
Henry

Großengottern, Germany

#10490 Jan 16, 2013
rio wrote:
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It's your denial which is idiotic, darling!
Atheism may have existed since immemorial times, I don't doubt that, but the first atheist state was the Soviet Union which proclaimed it in its constitution. So, in fact atheism REACHED POWER in 1917. So, from then on, we can see what atheists can do when they are in charge, and free to impose their views.
No country before the USSR was established as an atheist state; they were all theist, from one form or the other.
Among the first thing they did was to kill or imprison the religious clergy, expropriate or destroy religious buildings, persecute believers, and create a regime of fear to impose atheism on millions of folks who didn't want it.
In fact, with the instruments of state (police, secret services, army, communist party, prison camps) they were far more powerful than any church ever was, in christiandom at least.
The enforcement of atheism was maintained for 70 years; ask anyone coming from the ex-Soviet Union about it! Ask them if it was fallacies...
Being suspected of being religious could damage your social prospect, a place at university for your kids, promotion at work, material advantages such as lodging or holidays, etc... and even at time cost your life. That's what militant atheism is! It is totally intolerent.
The same system was repeated in China and North Korea, Cuba, Angola, Ethiopia, Cambodia, Vietnam, etc... all countries with atheist governments.
Atheists are on the march! Capitalists are on the end. The age of nuclear thread can defeat the humanity for ever. Religions are an additional threat to humanity!
Northpal

Toronto, Canada

#10491 Jan 16, 2013
Religion will cease to exist sometime in the 21st century. Replaced by the jew bolshevik atheism - yea!
Henry

Großengottern, Germany

#10492 Jan 16, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Will Atheism defeat religion by 2038?
This is topic of this thread and a very interesting too, because someone has stick out his or her neck and made a definite "prediction" or "prophesy".
It is easier to understand such things by past examples, I would try to do so.
I would like to pose a different question: What happened to so called Socialism and Communism?
A. Could any one say in 1960 s and 1970 s that "Communism and Socialism” would be dead by 1990 s?:
I think not even the "Most committed Capitalist" could make such a remark. In 60 s and 70 s the Socialism and Communism was the "Hot word". It was spreading like wild fire and new nations (mostly poor nations of Asia and Africa and Eastern Europe) were consumed by it.
Murmuring against it in Hungary was quenched in One Day,
Soft revolt against it in Chezslovakia was crushed in One Day.
Same thing happened in the case of Poland and Solidarity in 1970 s.
In UNO, the "Capitalist countries" were in minority and were only surviving thru Veto" Power.
In books and lectures and seminars and debates, there was no way in which any one could prove that Capitalism was a better system than Socialism or Communism.
B. What led to the so quick demise of the Socialism and / or Capitalism?
If you ask "capitalists" they would say that USSR was "duped" to spend too much on arms in the arm race with USA and became bankrupt.
Other people would give other reasons.
According to me, the Socialism and Capitalism both had a deadly flaw that they were against basic human nature!! And any thing against Basic human nature can only be enforced by outside force and not by the will and heart of people.
The moment this pressure is removed, people would revolt against it. That is how every country where Socialism or communism was practiced went under dictatorship and police and military brutality.
Both these philosophies therefore were destined for failure and it became clear "when they were at a pinnacle of their powers".
But on ground it happened when Russia invaded Afghanistan in 1979!!. That was the "end" of their "Moral Superiority and Leadership" in the world.
A world superpower invading a small and poor country with no justification and with no provocation?
They lost the respect of the world … and when Gorbachev removed the pressure that was propping up the regime, the whole structure collapsed to the ground.
That gives us a postulate "Any system which is against Basic Human Nature" is bound to fail, its life is limited.
D. Is Atheism not against Basic Human Nature?
I am asking this question now, because in my view Atheism is against basic human nature. No one in his or her right mind would ever believe that this huge Universe and every thing in it just came out by itself, without any plan, design, purpose or Creator at the back of it.
Different religions have different models for this Creator and this "confusion" has given a temporary platform for these Atheists to come out and dare to "predict" the date by which they will defeat the religion.
(Contd.)
Atheists are not having to defeat any religions, Don Quichote has defeated all religions long ago! Only analphabetism is slowing Atheism.
Henry

Großengottern, Germany

#10493 Jan 16, 2013
The serpent was right wrote:
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Except that you have no proof that this god exists.
God never existed!

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#10494 Jan 16, 2013
It seems that some atheists want to claim the moral high ground in society.

What puzzles me is why they would care?

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#10495 Jan 16, 2013
Henry wrote:
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God never existed!
Are you omniscient?

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