Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

[DJ Hewlet]

Reason Personified wrote:

<quoted text>Well you are not going to believe this, but trains actually have proof that they exist. I'll bet even you have seen one, and signs too, that say "railroad crossing" and train tracks and stations, and conductors. To equate your god to a train does not work, all the accoutrements* are there, but the train itself has yet to roll on any track. The god/train doesn't exist.
*Train station/church/temple, conductor/spell caster witch doctor, tracks/holy books
Should I fear for the safety of my aura too?

Atheism is a cult. It hasn't attracted enough people to make a minority and that isn't going to change. Atheism has no philosophy, nothing of any particular value to offer. The self centered hedonism of scientifically fueled secular belief is turning our society into a polluted stinking technological ghetto. If you think people haven't noticed, you're fooling yourself.

[Reason Personified]

DJ Hewlet wrote:

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Atheism is a cult. It hasn't attracted enough people to make a minority and that isn't going to change. Atheism has no philosophy, nothing of any particular value to offer. The self centered hedonism of scientifically fueled secular belief is turning our society into a polluted stinking technological ghetto. If you think people haven't noticed, you're fooling yourself.

Atheism isn't an "ism", atheism is the lack of an "ism".

Any religion would incorporate some type of "ism", and a cult would consist of more than one member, who actually had met the other member, and they would be following some charismatic and mentally throwed off leader's vision of how the world should be according to him.

Looking at atheist or atheism, you will not find any of these qualifiers, in just being those two things, but you can find them in almost any religious sect of any religion in the world. In fact you can't walk through a group of twelve Christains without running into it at least seven times.

[Thinking]

If only you knew of an all powerful god that could stop people being killed by trains.

MUQ wrote:

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If you are standing in the path of a train that is coming your way and have closed your eyes shut....should no one warn you that you are going to be hit by the speeding train?!!
Any one doing that would be your enemy or your well wisher?
Just because you "presume" you are an atheist, would Creator seize to exist for you? Would you escape death because you are an atheist?
Would you be exempt from resurrection just because "You did not believe in it"?
Why are you taking such a gamble with your life?
Your name is such an opposite of what you post!!

[Adam]

MUQ wrote:

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If you are standing in the path of a train that is coming your way and have closed your eyes shut....should no one warn you that you are going to be hit by the speeding train?!!
Any one doing that would be your enemy or your well wisher?

Depends what you mean by the train. If you mean superstition, the person who warned me to avoid superstition would be a well wisher.

Remember that mankind has invented 000s of gods. According to one source in the past 10000 years man has invented 10000 religions and 1000 gods. This shows that human beings are very superstitious creatures.

[Adam]

MUQ wrote:

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Why are you taking such a gamble with your life?

Buying into one particular sect of one particular religion is taking a risk with your life. Millions waste their lives thinking and worrying about made up things.

I for one, would not want to be sitting in Jannah underneath palm trees with 72 virgins, whilst my billions of people are being burnt alive in hell. That is an absurd and cruel mythology.

[KittenKoder]

DJ Hewlet wrote:

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Atheism is a cult. It hasn't attracted enough people to make a minority and that isn't going to change. Atheism has no philosophy, nothing of any particular value to offer. The self centered hedonism of scientifically fueled secular belief is turning our society into a polluted stinking technological ghetto. If you think people haven't noticed, you're fooling yourself.

How does a cult form around the absence of a single belief?

[Adam]

MUQ wrote:

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The reason you are a muslim is cause you live in a muslim country. If you lived where I live in a town with a bunch of churches and no mosque, you would almost certinly not be a muslim.

[DJ Hewlet]

KittenKoder wrote:

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How does a cult form around the absence of a single belief?

Disbelief is a belief. The opposite of belief is not a lack of belief but an undecided or unreached conclusion. Proof? Atheists spend an exorbitant amount of time on discussion boards like this defending their belief in disbelief.

The lack of belief in something represents nothing. You wouldn't be aware of it so you would have no claim to knowledge and no opinions. The primitive Yanomami tribe in Brazil lack a belief in the christian God. They never heard of this god and know nothing about it. They have no knowledge of this God. Athiests, on the other hand, are well aware of Christianity and openly reject its theology. They disbelieve.

[Just Think]

DJ Hewlet wrote:

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Disbelief is a belief. The opposite of belief is not a lack of belief but an undecided or unreached conclusion. Proof? Atheists spend an exorbitant amount of time on discussion boards like this defending their belief in disbelief.
The lack of belief in something represents nothing. You wouldn't be aware of it so you would have no claim to knowledge and no opinions. The primitive Yanomami tribe in Brazil lack a belief in the christian God. They never heard of this god and know nothing about it. They have no knowledge of this God. Athiests, on the other hand, are well aware of Christianity and openly reject its theology. They disbelieve.

LOL...no.

[polymath257]

MUQ wrote:

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If you are standing in the path of a train that is coming your way and have closed your eyes shut....should no one warn you that you are going to be hit by the speeding train?!!
Any one doing that would be your enemy or your well wisher?

And what if someone insists there is a train even though you have your eyes open, see no train, here no sound and there are no train tracks? They insist that there is a train coming and you have to get out of the way. What would you say in *this* case? That they were well-meaning, but wrong. if they kept insisting there was a train coming, even after a great deal of time, you would consider them to be crazy.
And that is how we see you: probably well-meaning, but so wrong as to be considered out of touch with reality.

Just because you "presume" you are an atheist, would Creator seize to exist for you? Would you escape death because you are an atheist?

I assume you mean 'cease' instead of 'seize'.*IF* you are correct, atheism would not be a cure. But why should we think you are correct?

Would you be exempt from resurrection just because "You did not believe in it"?
Why are you taking such a gamble with your life?

because I consider the odds to be so against your scenario that the gamble is minimal. And that's not to mention all the *other* possible scenarios that you don't mention.

Your name is such an opposite of what you post!!

[KittenKoder]

DJ Hewlet wrote:

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Disbelief is a belief. The opposite of belief is not a lack of belief but an undecided or unreached conclusion. Proof? Atheists spend an exorbitant amount of time on discussion boards like this defending their belief in disbelief.
The lack of belief in something represents nothing. You wouldn't be aware of it so you would have no claim to knowledge and no opinions. The primitive Yanomami tribe in Brazil lack a belief in the christian God. They never heard of this god and know nothing about it. They have no knowledge of this God. Athiests, on the other hand, are well aware of Christianity and openly reject its theology. They disbelieve.

No, we lack the belief. Twist the facts all you want, it doesn't change them. You are atheist to Zeus.

[Just Think]

KittenKoder wrote:

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No, we lack the belief. Twist the facts all you want, it doesn't change them. You are atheist to Zeus.

NO! He's a believing non-believer in the belief of believable Zueseses!

[albtraum]

whatever wrote:

<quoted text>I totally agree with you. Since the dawn of time man has always had an inner void to fill. a void that cannot be fullfilled by anything in this world has to offer. Are we becoming robots just to exist? If that is the case, why even care about anything at all? If I don't have God somwhere in my life I am completely and utterly empty. That is proof in itself!! Yet you still have so many other signs and miracles that cannot or will not be explained by science.

It could also be a sign of some neurosis. Or maybe you just need to get out more.

[albtraum]

MUQ wrote:

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If you are standing in the path of a train that is coming your way and have closed your eyes shut....should no one warn you that you are going to be hit by the speeding train?!!
Any one doing that would be your enemy or your well wisher?
Just because you "presume" you are an atheist, would Creator seize to exist for you? Would you escape death because you are an atheist?
Would you be exempt from resurrection just because "You did not believe in it"?
Why are you taking such a gamble with your life?
Your name is such an opposite of what you post!!

Pascal's Wager....Epic Fail.

[albtraum]

DJ Hewlet wrote:

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Atheism is a cult. It hasn't attracted enough people to make a minority and that isn't going to change. Atheism has no philosophy, nothing of any particular value to offer. The self centered hedonism of scientifically fueled secular belief is turning our society into a polluted stinking technological ghetto. If you think people haven't noticed, you're fooling yourself.

Max Weber: "Secularization is sometimes credited both to the cultural shifts in society following the emergence of rationality and the development of science as a substitute for superstition "the disenchantment of the world".

13 million people aren't enough to make a 'minority' in this country??? You might wish to double check that one. Check out The Pew forum for the last decade.

[Lincoln]

DJ Hewlet wrote:

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Atheism is a cult. It hasn't attracted enough people to make a minority and that isn't going to change. Atheism has no philosophy, nothing of any particular value to offer. The self centered hedonism of scientifically fueled secular belief is turning our society into a polluted stinking technological ghetto. If you think people haven't noticed, you're fooling yourself.

All of this is your opinion, First Amendment protects this.
Are you trying to convince yourself of this?

[Givemeliberty]

That's just stupid and beyond grasping at straws.

DJ Hewlet wrote:

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Disbelief is a belief. The opposite of belief is not a lack of belief but an undecided or unreached conclusion. Proof? Atheists spend an exorbitant amount of time on discussion boards like this defending their belief in disbelief.
The lack of belief in something represents nothing. You wouldn't be aware of it so you would have no claim to knowledge and no opinions. The primitive Yanomami tribe in Brazil lack a belief in the christian God. They never heard of this god and know nothing about it. They have no knowledge of this God. Athiests, on the other hand, are well aware of Christianity and openly reject its theology. They disbelieve.

[EdSed]

From:
http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2013/01/jur...
Mr Qayyum said: "The Koran is sacred to us and we honour it. We also have a Bible on our stand and we show the Bible the same respect. One of the laws of the Koran is it shouldn't be on the floor, it should be high up and our hands should be clean when it's touched. I was shocked."
And
"Defence advocate Steven Newcombe said: "There are many who oppose Islam. Did you take it he was expressing anti-Islamic views and disrespecting the religion?"
"Yes," said Mr Quyyum, although he agreed that Mr Crawford did not threaten or provoke any violence.
Unquote.
Mr Quyyum and company need to get used to the idea of freedom of speech & expression. People can believe whatever they want. I could believe that the flag is the symbol of my country and should be respected, but flags and books might not be respected - end of story. Respect must be earned, not demanded.

Religion isn't to be respected or disrespected (whatever 'disrespecting something' means. Presumably people mean 'actively showing disrespect to' i.e. being unnecessarily candid when one might be polite or more tactful.) Freedom of speech and expression are important must be upheld.

It isn't at all clear that Mr Crawford was trying to provoke a disturbance and he wasn't being violent, so why was it a police matter at all? A protest is legal whether carried out by a person, group or crowd.

People needn't be offended by people being disgusted by religion. Many of us feel that all the time and never particularly show it.

I think Mr Crawford should have been fined for littering.

Religion = superstition. It's divisive and more trouble than its worth.

[Lincoln]

n 20th century atheist in power murdered millions. As a result turning to atheism is not an easy solution.
Hitler,
Stalin,
Lenin,
Castro,
Trotsky,
Kamenev,
Zinoviev
Mao,
Himler,
Eichmann
all examples of atheists not to be trusted.

Atheists will now claim these were Christians :-)

[sickofit]

When religion is gone is when we will have world peace and total equality and total freedom...