Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

[albtraum]

Andre wrote:

<quoted text>You are correct with your information.
My comment was based on the responses on this forum - where I find very little (if indeed any) sign of conversation where facts are presented in support of argument - yours is an exception.
I always welcome proper argument which challenges beliefs previously held. If one sticks to a point just because one wants to believe it, it is a bit silly. Without trying to sound arrogant, I have yet to come across any argument that disproves any of the central doctrines of the Christian faith - or even that which is stated in the Bible as fact.

But one thing I know - God loves his people and will not let any of them go astray. Consider the guy on the cross next to Jesus - saved within the last hours of his life.

I see, since you don't like facts that don't support you, you regress to Topix replies?

If you haven't come accross anything that disproves YOUR central beliefs in the doctrines....it's because you don't want to.

It isn't sad to turn away from Christianity....it would be far sadder to give lip service to a tarnished beyond redemption set of discarded dreams, which is precisely what religion is.That's what I have done and the relief is immense. You dream of eternal life, the dream of escaping death, the dream that even in death all problems will be solved. The righteous (yourself) will go to heaven and the wicked (those that disagree with you) will burn in hell.

You can't prove any truth in myths by quoting more myth. You're basically saying that the bible is true because the thief on the cross went to heaven....neither of which supports the other.

Sorry, getting frustrated here. Far better to stop for now.

[Givemeliberty]

The onion rocks :)

albtraum wrote:

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love, Love, LOVE The Onion!!!

[EdSed]

I simply don't believe you when you write this:

Andre wrote:

<quoted text>...I always welcome proper argument which challenges beliefs previously held. If one sticks to a point just because one wants to believe it, it is a bit silly...

I do believe that you believe it to be true.

I think you consider some beliefs sacred and don't allow them to be challenged in the same way any belief should be challenged. You fail to challenge all beliefs equally. I think you have a double-standard. All beliefs should be challenged and none held sacred.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/...

[EdSed]

http://www.jesusandmo.net/2013/01/09/minds/

[Adam]

EdSed wrote:

http://www.jesusandmo.net/2013 /01/09/minds/

very good

[Thinking]

Statue of Mary seen driving a car in Ireland.

www.youtube.com/watch...

Sometimes, miracles do happen.

Givemeliberty wrote:

The onion rocks :)
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[Henry]

P_Smith wrote:

As I just posted on the site:
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Religion will continue to exist as long as these two things also exist:
(1) Uneducated masses who can't think rationally (especially in regard to their biases).
(2) Biased, corrupt and opportunistic "leaders" who see religion as a short cut to wealth, power, sex and social status.
Because those two things are likely to always be with us, we will unfortunately never see the demise of the demented deists.
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The overwhelming of religion by the education of people will further the atheism.

[Givemeliberty]

Lol! That was just tooooo sweet!:)

Thinking wrote:

Statue of Mary seen driving a car in Ireland.
www.youtube.com/watch...
Sometimes, miracles do happen.
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[Henry]

Clint wrote:

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Capitalism is the only hope humanity has to survive and flourish.

Only by the overwhelminvive!g of capitalism humanity may have a chance

[Henry]

Adam wrote:

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The bible contradicts itself on this, in some places you are saved by faith, in others by works. Why do you choose Paul teaching over Jesus.
You seem to have accepted fundie creationist myths hook line and sinker. Many christians accept macro evolution.

The bible is full of errors, fakes and mistakes!

[jacktheladat1]

Andre wrote:

<quoted text>You are correct with your information.
My comment was based on the responses on this forum - where I find very little (if indeed any) sign of conversation where facts are presented in support of argument - yours is an exception.
I always welcome proper argument which challenges beliefs previously held. If one sticks to a point just because one wants to believe it, it is a bit silly. Without trying to sound arrogant, I have yet to come across any argument that disproves any of the central doctrines of the Christian faith - or even that which is stated in the Bible as fact.
There may be arguments (such as the one raised earlier about contradictions in respect of works and grace) which is based on superficial understanding of the text and the context.
I have come to the conclusion (perhaps incorrectly so) that atheists "believe" in atheism without sound argument, but often as a result of "losing faith" in Christ-ianity. This is so sad and I do not know how a person that does not study the Bible is able to discern truth from lies offered from the pulpit of many "Christian" churches.
But one thing I know - God loves his people and will not let any of them go astray. Consider the guy on the cross next to Jesus - saved within the last hours of his life.

FACT - Fact and the Bible are contradictory in terms. Fact.

[whatever]

paarsurrey wrote:

I don't think it will ever happen; since there is not a single evidence with the atheists that the Creator God does not exist.
If you have give it here.

I totally agree with you. Since the dawn of time man has always had an inner void to fill. a void that cannot be fullfilled by anything in this world has to offer. Are we becoming robots just to exist? If that is the case, why even care about anything at all? If I don't have God somwhere in my life I am completely and utterly empty. That is proof in itself!! Yet you still have so many other signs and miracles that cannot or will not be explained by science.

[whatever]

Henry wrote:

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The bible is full of errors, fakes and mistakes!

You know what, everything that bible teaches is the fundamentals of living a fulfilled clean and happy life. Its the twisted mind and hearts of people like you who can't understand it, so instead you mock it!!

[whatever]

jacktheladat1 wrote:

<quoted text>FACT - Fact and the Bible are contradictory in terms. Fact.

agreed. Jesus is lord!!! The simple reason people choose to be atheist is because I believe is just the easy way out for them. So they don't have to deal with quilt of knowing somethings wrong when they do it. They want to be gay, well, its easy when you have no morals or beliefs but yet deep down inside they know its not right!!!!!!!!!! Same with any other wrong aspect of someones life.

[Hedonist]

whatever wrote:

<quoted text>agreed. Jesus is lord!!! The simple reason people choose to be atheist is because I believe is just the easy way out for them. So they don't have to deal with quilt of knowing somethings wrong when they do it. They want to be gay, well, its easy when you have no morals or beliefs but yet deep down inside they know its not right!!!!!!!!!! Same with any other wrong aspect of someones life.

So the only reason you act morally at all is because of the carrot and stick of heaven and hell.

PLEASE keep your religion!

[jacktheladat1]

It really is eye watering to even think what my fellow 'man' can succumb to believe. Guilt for being something as natural to him (fellow man) gay. Do people of our higher species STILL think that one's sexuality is taught? It's mind boggling, really is. WHERE do morals enter the picture re one's NATURAL sexuality? I'm NOT gay, but I DO live AND LET LIVE. I DO NOT need any book of fairy tales to point me in THAT direction. Some really should GET A LIFE, we're not performing a dress rehearsal.

[Reason Personified]

As an atheist, having a Christian threaten me with hell is like a hippy threatening to punch me in my aura -- Josh Thomas

[MUQ]

Reason Personified wrote:

As an atheist, having a Christian threaten me with hell is like a hippy threatening to punch me in my aura -- Josh Thomas

If you are standing in the path of a train that is coming your way and have closed your eyes shut....should no one warn you that you are going to be hit by the speeding train?!!

Any one doing that would be your enemy or your well wisher?

Just because you "presume" you are an atheist, would Creator seize to exist for you? Would you escape death because you are an atheist?

Would you be exempt from resurrection just because "You did not believe in it"?

Why are you taking such a gamble with your life?

Your name is such an opposite of what you post!!

[Reason Personified]

MUQ wrote:

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If you are standing in the path of a train that is coming your way and have closed your eyes shut....should no one warn you that you are going to be hit by the speeding train?!!
Any one doing that would be your enemy or your well wisher?
Just because you "presume" you are an atheist, would Creator seize to exist for you? Would you escape death because you are an atheist?
Would you be exempt from resurrection just because "You did not believe in it"?
Why are you taking such a gamble with your life?
Your name is such an opposite of what you post!!

Well you are not going to believe this, but trains actually have proof that they exist. I'll bet even you have seen one, and signs too, that say "railroad crossing" and train tracks and stations, and conductors. To equate your god to a train does not work, all the accoutrements* are there, but the train itself has yet to roll on any track. The god/train doesn't exist.

*Train station/church/temple, conductor/spell caster witch doctor, tracks/holy books

Should I fear for the safety of my aura too?

[Givemeliberty]

But trains are not just figments of people's imagination. I can just as easily use your example that a person won't leave his bedroom to go to work because he is deluded into thinking the hallway in his house is a bustling train track with trains ready to run him over. This delusion causes him to lose his job and not reach his full potential.

MUQ wrote:

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If you are standing in the path of a train that is coming your way and have closed your eyes shut....should no one warn you that you are going to be hit by the speeding train?!!
Any one doing that would be your enemy or your well wisher?
Just because you "presume" you are an atheist, would Creator seize to exist for you? Would you escape death because you are an atheist?
Would you be exempt from resurrection just because "You did not believe in it"?
Why are you taking such a gamble with your life?
Your name is such an opposite of what you post!!