Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 23814 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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rio

Beckenham, UK

#9178 Nov 21, 2012
The title of this thread is "Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038".

But, as usual, the atheist lobby cannot resist hijacking the debate to attack the believers. I am just wondering why that? I have no problem with people not believing in God, but why some feel the need to attack my beliefs? What give them the right to do that?

But in any case, I doubt very much that atheism will defeat religion by 2038, if ever. Many people need some form of spirituality, and will turn to religion to find it. It's just human nature: we are not made of stone: we think, we look for solutions, we search moral comfort, etc...

Furthermore, religions are the pillars of many societies, and an essential part of social structures. If they were to suddenly vanish, the world order would collapse, I predict.
Atheism can be a pressure group in society, but never a beacon.

I hope to be there in 26 years time, and see the pundits proven wrong.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#9179 Nov 21, 2012
Rio, people here are not attacking believers, but the beliefs of believers. You may be right that a small proportion of people will cling to belief in the supernatural. But the signs are that belief is in decline.

The world will be better off if people can think rationally in a grown up way without having to resort to myths and magical thinking. Countries with a high proportion of irreligious people seem to do just fine.

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#9180 Nov 21, 2012
EdSed wrote:
We only have five senses and a human mind. For all one knows, one is a sort of blob that imagines everything. When we are not seeing or otherwise sensing something, perhaps it doesn't exist. In that sense, we cannot 'know' anything. That doesn't mean it is okay to make stuff up (e.g. an afterlife or god/s). Superstition can do great harm. Surely the best thing to do is only believe anything as far as reason and evidence justify the belief and accept what we do not know or understand.
I try to have the courage to change what I can, the serenity to accept what I cannot and the wisdom to know the difference - and the serenity to accept I cannot understand everything in the universe and beyond.
I've read your closing paragraph somewhere else. I'm quite certain it's been said by some prominent person, the likes of Darwin.
rio

Beckenham, UK

#9181 Nov 21, 2012
Adam wrote:
The world will be better off if people can think rationally in a grown up way without having to resort to myths and magical thinking.

Countries with a high proportion of irreligious people seem to do just fine.
Another attack! "Myths" and "magical thinking" are more insults.
Can't you just accept that some people can have different beliefs than you without insulting them? Who says that you are more "grown up" than me?

Which are these countries where people do fine without religion?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9182 Nov 21, 2012
rio wrote:
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Another attack! "Myths" and "magical thinking" are more insults.
Can't you just accept that some people can have different beliefs than you without insulting them? Who says that you are more "grown up" than me?
Which are these countries where people do fine without religion?
Those are only insults when you deny reality.
rio

Beckenham, UK

#9183 Nov 21, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Those are only insults when you deny reality.
Attacking someone's beliefs and turning them in derision is insulting, like it or not. You atheists have no right to do that!

I could just as well start laughing at your lack of spirituality, at your materialism, at your belief that there is no creator, no afterlife, that for you "Big Bang" came out of nowhere, etc... but I don't. Who says you know reality more than I do?

You have as many answered questions as the believers, so why do you insist in holding the high ground in any conversation?

US citizen, right? How many US politicians say they are atheists? How many atheiists would be trusted by the US public? How comes your country is so religious? Your compatriots, are they all ignorant fools believing in "Myths" and "fairy tales" too? Is your Constitution a fraud? Because religion is very, very powerful in the US! Answer that...
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#9184 Nov 21, 2012
rio wrote:
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Which are these countries where people do fine without religion?
Top of the class in atheism and good behaviour are the Japanese. France and Scandanvian countries are good places too.

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#9185 Nov 21, 2012
Adam wrote:
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I believe yesterday you denied that Muhammed consummated the marriage to Aisha when she was a 9 year old child. This relationship is documented in many of your islamic sources including Bukhari. Do you believe this? Yes or No.
I deeply admire your patience if you have the time to await an answer my friend. Best not to hold one's breath dealing with such from this mutt.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9186 Nov 21, 2012
rio wrote:
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Attacking someone's beliefs and turning them in derision is insulting, like it or not. You atheists have no right to do that!
I could just as well start laughing at your lack of spirituality, at your materialism, at your belief that there is no creator, no afterlife, that for you "Big Bang" came out of nowhere, etc... but I don't. Who says you know reality more than I do?
You have as many answered questions as the believers, so why do you insist in holding the high ground in any conversation?
US citizen, right? How many US politicians say they are atheists? How many atheiists would be trusted by the US public? How comes your country is so religious? Your compatriots, are they all ignorant fools believing in "Myths" and "fairy tales" too? Is your Constitution a fraud? Because religion is very, very powerful in the US! Answer that...
We have no right to insult you? Yet you have the right to attack anyone who doesn't believe like you. Hypocrisy, your name is Christ. Tell you what, when all you religious nuts stop attacking people who are different than you just for being different, then we will lose the right to insult you morons.
rio

Beckenham, UK

#9187 Nov 21, 2012
Adam wrote:
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Top of the class in atheism and good behaviour are the Japanese. France and Scandanvian countries are good places too.
Well, according to the stats, almost 85% of Japanese follow Shintoism or Buddism, and many BOTH! Other religions are in minority.

In France, where there are no official statistics, it's estimated that between 83 and 88% are Catholics, between 5 and 10% are Muslims, with the protestants and the Jews trailinmg with 2 and 1%. The government is secular, but the French are not atheist in their majority.

I think you confuse atheism with non-practice of a religion.

Many people don't attend religious services regularly, but still keep their beliefs, teach them to their children, get baptised, or circumcised, get married and are buried according to their religion. Not exactly a statement of atheism, is it?

Enforced atheism was existing in the USSR or in China, It still exists in North Korea, etc... Very often, people turn back to religion, even after 3 generations, once the totalitarism stops. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, plenty of churches were built to satisfy the huge demand of the population going back to Orthodoxy, attending masses, baptising their children, getting married, etc... The Russian Orthodox Church has come back as a pollar of modern Russian society, after 70 years of communist persecution. That's matter for thought, eh ...
rio

Beckenham, UK

#9188 Nov 21, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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We have no right to insult you? Yet you have the right to attack anyone who doesn't believe like you. Hypocrisy, your name is Christ. Tell you what, when all you religious nuts stop attacking people who are different than you just for being different, then we will lose the right to insult you morons.
When did I insult you?

Who says I believe in Christ?

I don't attack anyone's beliefs, or lack of; that's their business, but in exchange I expect not to be slandered for mine.

You turn to be more intolerent than the so-called "religious nuts" you so despise.

Lady, you have a problem; like a chip on your shoulder!!

BTW, Your video is crap. I can't judge the content, but the picture and sound quality are terrible, very amateurish. That's the reality!

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#9189 Nov 21, 2012
In that case don't come to the atheist forum and you won't have to read us mocking your fictional god. Who says we know more than you? Simply reading your ill informed posts show us that.
rio wrote:
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Attacking someone's beliefs and turning them in derision is insulting, like it or not. You atheists have no right to do that!
Who says you know reality more than I do?.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#9190 Nov 21, 2012
2000 years ago where Muq is standing the people worshipped a pantheon of gods with Allah the moon god as the chief deity. He and his daughters the stars, created and ruled over all. They believed this so strongly that when a meteorite crashed to the ground these primitives built a shrine around it and people would travel from all around to this place dubbed Mecca to kiss the meteorite. They celebrated Ramadan and fasted during it. All the while painting and proudly showing the symbol of the crescent moon an star as a symbol praising Allah the moon god an his daughters the stars. Allah was the truth and the way as he helped travelers at night with his moonly light. To suggest another deity was above Allah the moon god would result in battles and bloodshed.

So we can see lots has changed there as well.

:rolls eyes, knowing smile:
Adam wrote:
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Yes I no longer take religious things seriously, as I have come to the realisation that god, heaven, hell, angels, etc are imaginary, in exactly the same way that the gods and myths of ancient socities are imaginary. Where I live in the UK, 2000 years ago they worshiped a pantheon of celtic and roman deities. Its a delusion. No doubt.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#9191 Nov 21, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
In that case don't come to the atheist forum and you won't have to read us mocking your fictional god. Who says we know more than you? Simply reading your ill informed posts show us that.
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I'm curious...Is that a feeding tube going into your nose on your picture?

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#9192 Nov 21, 2012
How would atheism defeat religion?(If it were possible)
rio

Beckenham, UK

#9193 Nov 21, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
In that case don't come to the atheist forum and you won't have to read us mocking your fictional god. Who says we know more than you? Simply reading your ill informed posts show us that.
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This isn't an "atheist forum", it's a thread about atheism defeating religions on Topix! Wahtever "defeating" means in this context.

Why "fictional god"?
You can't prove there is no God, no more than I can prove there is one. We are equal here. Your reasoning isn't superior to mine.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#9195 Nov 21, 2012
Actually my halfwit mouth breather that is the little girl Malala who was gunned down in the name of your god.

I see you think it is funny and are proud of her suffering.
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
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I'm curious...Is that a feeding tube going into your nose on your picture?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#9196 Nov 21, 2012
Top left corner mouth breather. Atheism forum. I guess you lack the IQ to read properly.

Yes your god is a work of fiction, nothing more. There is no equality in facts it either is or it isn't true. While I have mountains of proof showing your god is a work of fiction, all you have is opinion that he isn't.

Facts over opinion.

My facts stand you came to the atheism forum to troll and spam and so you will be treated as such and rightfully so.
rio wrote:
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This isn't an "atheist forum", it's a thread about atheism defeating religions on Topix! Wahtever "defeating" means in this context.
Why "fictional god"?
You can't prove there is no God, no more than I can prove there is one. We are equal here. Your reasoning isn't superior to mine.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#9197 Nov 21, 2012
Muslims celebrate Bus full of innocent people blown up.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/21/us-...
rio

Beckenham, UK

#9198 Nov 21, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
My facts stand you came to the atheism forum to troll and spam and so you will be treated as such and rightfully so.
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So, this thread is only a self appreciation forum for atheists to gloat and congratulate each other, is it? It doesn't say so ...

Or maybe you just come here full of prejudice to troll and spam yourself, on the off chance that you can antagonise other posters.
Whichever, you sound very insecure and not very clued up at all.

For your information, any true believers also despises people who use religion to explain violence. You confuse politics and beliefs.
I rather leave you to your ignorence.

I met a few atheists in my life, some in my own family, but they never came across as pathetic as you. Bye bye ...

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