Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Apr 25, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Psychology Today

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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That is a very defeatist attitude on life. You failed to create your own meaning so you just took something someone else offered, and not a very good one.
What do you mean "I failed to create my own meaning"?
I don't think I have dome badly at all in this life, personally, professionally, emotionally, financially, etc...
But the prospect that all is going to end in dust after death isn't very appealling to me. It sounds like a waste.
Well, for some people that may seem alright, not for me.
It doesn't warrant the glorification of human life if it all ends up in decaying cells once death has come. It sounds so material without afterlife; just growing, breeding, consuming, producing and then ...pop... nothing? Just a link in the food chain? Hummm...
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You obviously failed biology, stupid bítch!
lol. I bet its true!
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But the prospect that all is going to end in dust after death isn't very appealling to me.
Welcome to the real world. Just think of it, as like the time before we were born. i.e. nothing.
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We only have five senses and a human mind. For all one knows, one is a sort of blob that imagines everything. When we are not seeing or otherwise sensing something, perhaps it doesn't exist. In that sense, we cannot 'know' anything. That doesn't mean it is okay to make stuff up (e.g. an afterlife or god/s). Superstition can do great harm. Surely the best thing to do is only believe anything as far as reason and evidence justify the belief and accept what we do not know or understand.

I try to have the courage to change what I can, the serenity to accept what I cannot and the wisdom to know the difference - and the serenity to accept I cannot understand everything in the universe and beyond.

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What do you mean "I failed to create my own meaning"?
I don't think I have dome badly at all in this life, personally, professionally, emotionally, financially, etc...
But the prospect that all is going to end in dust after death isn't very appealling to me. It sounds like a waste.
Well, for some people that may seem alright, not for me.
It doesn't warrant the glorification of human life if it all ends up in decaying cells once death has come. It sounds so material without afterlife; just growing, breeding, consuming, producing and then ...pop... nothing? Just a link in the food chain? Hummm...
So you are going to waste your life worshiping something just because you really want it to be real, regardless of the lacking evidence or the people you are making very wealthy by doing so.

Those who want their lives to have meaning leave behind a legacy of progress, change for the better, footsteps that no others can fill.
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and the serenity to accept I cannot understand everything in the universe and beyond.
You seem to leave the door open to belief here...

Just like if you had doubt in what you say.

I have doubt too, but I feel more comfortable in believing in some sort of surnatural force, God, etc... than to deny its existence.

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I have a nice laugh when you rejects have to change your screen name because you got your @ss handed to you so badly.

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You seem to leave the door open to belief here...
Just like if you had doubt in what you say.
I have doubt too, but I feel more comfortable in believing in some sort of surnatural force, God, etc... than to deny its existence.
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So you are going to waste your life worshiping something just because you really want it to be real, regardless of the lacking evidence or the people you are making very wealthy by doing so.
Those who want their lives to have meaning leave behind a legacy of progress, change for the better, footsteps that no others can fill.
Who says I worship,or I make anyone wealthy?
I am no Mormon, or Scientoloogist, or subscribing to an established religion; I just believe in God - period!

Oh, and 5 billions of human beings can all give meaning to their lives on this earth, all at ionce, right?

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Who says I worship,or I make anyone wealthy?
I am no Mormon, or Scientoloogist, or subscribing to an established religion; I just believe in God - period!
Oh, and 5 billions of human beings can all give meaning to their lives on this earth, all at ionce, right?
English?

There are 8.something billion people, to be more accurate, 5 billion was I believe 1960.
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You seem to leave the door open to belief here...
Just like if you had doubt in what you say.
I have doubt too, but I feel more comfortable in believing in some sort of surnatural force, God, etc... than to deny its existence.
I'm afraid you seem to me to have trouble comprehending what I wrote.

As many of us feel we must repeat ad nauseum: I don't have any 'beleifs' in the religious sense. Perhaps if you hear it in song?...
http://www.atheismuk.com/2012/03/31/atheism/y...
(Sorry for Jonny's bad language :-)
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...Just like if you had doubt in what you say....
Doubt in what I say? My mind doesn't work that way.

I only believe anything as far as it is justified by reason and evidence. Surely nobody should believe anything beyond what is justified by reason and evidence? My beliefs therefore change with reasoning and evidence.

For instance, if I had been born over 700 years ago, I might have believed that reason and evidence proved the world was flat. So I would regard the world as being flat as a fact. When I discovered evidence that the world is in fact round(ish), I would change what I believe. I don't just believe there is a god or not according to which makes me feel better.
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It isn't a queston of 'doubt in what I say'. I will happily question any or ALL my beliefs, every day. It might not be wise to trust anyone unwilling to question what they believe.
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English?
There are 8.something billion people, to be more accurate, 5 billion was I believe 1960.
5 billions, 8 billions, 10 billions, what's the hell?

Do you think each one of these lives on earth is going to be meaningfull?

Looks like 8 or 10 billions cabbages rotting to oblivion to me if there is no afterlife.

That doesn't give much value to life really, does it?
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As many of us feel we must repeat ad nauseum: I don't have any 'beleifs' in the religious sense.
I stick to that definition: "Belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true."

Your affirmation in the non-existence of God IS a belief.
It may not be religious, but it is a philosophical belief.

Atheists often repute the idea that they have a belief, because they equate beliefs with superstition. Fine with me ...

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5 billions, 8 billions, 10 billions, what's the hell?
Do you think each one of these lives on earth is going to be meaningfull?
Looks like 8 or 10 billions cabbages rotting to oblivion to me if there is no afterlife.
That doesn't give much value to life really, does it?
Since English is not your primary language, I'll try to be nice about your failure to use proper grammar. Each life is as meaningful as that person makes it, it's no more meaningful than that. People make their own meaning and purpose for their life, whether they choose a wish filled cookie cutter one, or you stand up and make a truly meaningful life, it's still your choice. But when you die, unless you make a purpose in life that's for living, your life will be meaningless when you die. No one who focuses on death is ever truly alive.

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I've a problem taking anything on face value. I really do.

The only thing that makes me think there is something else is not near death experiences.

Its those ''out of body'' experiences people who have died and came back have had. Where they were hovering above their dead body.

Experiences where they could see and tell exactly what was happening to them like they were alive. They can say exactly what was happening yet they were dead.

That sort of stuff is unexplainable......

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I've a problem taking anything on face value. I really do.
The only thing that makes me think there is something else is not near death experiences.
Its those ''out of body'' experiences people who have died and came back have had. Where they were hovering above their dead body.
Experiences where they could see and tell exactly what was happening to them like they were alive. They can say exactly what was happening yet they were dead.
That sort of stuff is unexplainable......
You are doing exactly what you say you don't do. Why do you lie?

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You are doing exactly what you say you don't do. Why do you lie?
Not really though.

If people can say exactly where doctors, family etc were in the room and what they were doing after they were dead.

That is pretty unexplainable. You know?
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rio wrote:
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5 billions, 8 billions, 10 billions, what's the hell?
Do you think each one of these lives on earth is going to be meaningfull?
Looks like 8 or 10 billions cabbages rotting to oblivion to me if there is no afterlife.
That doesn't give much value to life really, does it?
Ah the ever returning "Is this it?" question.
In the words of Richard Dawkins: "What do you mean is this it? THis is wonderful."

I think the fact that our lives are relatively short makes them more precious, not less. We only truly get how great a gift life is because we can contrast it with death, in the same way we wouldn' t be able to comprehend light without darkness or good without evil. They're two sides of the same coin and one is meaningless without the other.
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I stick to that definition: "Belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true."
Your affirmation in the non-existence of God IS a belief.
It may not be religious, but it is a philosophical belief.
Atheists often repute the idea that they have a belief, because they equate beliefs with superstition. Fine with me ...
Does that mean we are both members of the 'I believe in the non-existence of flying purple dinosaurs' club?

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