Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

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My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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ya heba

Australia

#8861 Nov 14, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Muq is a spambot troll nothing more. I know quite a few Muslims and have even done business with people in Saudi Arabia and Egypt. I am well versed in their word games.
For example Muq refused to condemn Muslims suicide bombing Jewish daycare centers! When pressed he will regurgitate the tired old killing innocents is wrong. Ah but when you ask about a specific example he ignores it.
Bottom line he proudly admits to believing sharia law and in sharia law honor killings of even children are accepted.
See an innocent to a Muslim is quite different than how we see an innocent. If you are an infidel or kuffar as hebe says than you are an enemy to Allah and deserve to be killed. If a muslim child acts unislamic in one's eyes it is a blessing to kill them. Rape victims are whipped in the street. You see it's all about making an example out of someone to keep the others in line.
That's why we have a poor mentally retarded boy beaten and due to be executed for signing a confession to being unislamic and the poor boy can't even read nor understand what he was doing or even accused of!
This is shocking to us civilized people but standard routine for Muq and his ilk.
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the joooos are the oppressors the Palestinians are in self defense.
ya heba

Australia

#8862 Nov 14, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
You see it's all about making an example out of someone to keep the others in line.
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That's correct.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#8863 Nov 14, 2012
ya heba wrote:
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the joooos are the oppressors the Palestinians are in self defense.
If you had been born a Zionist (not all Jews are Zionists) you would be as ruthless against Palestinians as you are against children who disagree with you.

Islamists and Zionists are very similar - both extremists and fundamentalist.
ya heba

Australia

#8864 Nov 14, 2012
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>I think Adam may have Muslims like these in mind..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12504162
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5144526.stm
And UK PM Cameron sites Indonesia...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17686174
It would be nice to think that there is such a thing as moderate Islam and that most Muslims do condemn attrocities and terrorist methods. However, it has proved difficult to get them to do so unambiguously and without fear of losing support in their communities.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-new...
And the most outrageous examples of Muslim violence have been dismissed by moderates, or even absurdly blamed on Utube videos and cartoons. They want respect for their superstitious and fallacious Islamic beliefs but won't accept such beliefs have any causal link with extremism or the actions of their co-religionists. They don't even see those beliefs as a contributory factor.
there is no such thing as a moderate or extremist. there is only a Muslim and a pious Muslim.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#8865 Nov 14, 2012
ya heba wrote:
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there is no such thing as a moderate or extremist. there is only a Muslim and a pious Muslim.
Obvious nonsense. Get a life, not a religion.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#8866 Nov 14, 2012
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#8867 Nov 14, 2012
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/piety
Piety, like superstitious acts of faith, is determental to society.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#8868 Nov 14, 2012
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>If you had been born a Zionist (not all Jews are Zionists) you would be as ruthless against Palestinians as you are against children who disagree with you.
Islamists and Zionists are very similar - both extremists and fundamentalist.
Good point. There are many secular and moderate Jews in Israel.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#8869 Nov 14, 2012
ya heba wrote:
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there are people born in those countries you have mentioned who also Muslim.
I think you have side stepped my point.

I for example was brought up to believe in Christianity. Later in life I became a Christian. I guess you were brought up to be a Muslim, and are now a Muslim.

It has nothing to do with what is right and wrong.

Free Thinking people think for themselves and work out what is right and wrong based on ALL the evidence, including that evidence which contradicts our own beliefs. This is how we get to the real truth.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#8870 Nov 14, 2012
ya heba wrote:
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everyone is born a Muslim, all children are born a Muslim and innocent free from sin, even those born to a non Muslim household...
I missed that post. I'm still not sure this acknowledges the problem. The main factor that defines people's religious (and political) beliefs is the family and community in which they are raised.

Everyone is born a Muslim? Seriously, that is funny.

I can say everyone is born with the belief in fairies :) that makes just as much sense.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#8871 Nov 14, 2012
Adam wrote:
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...Free Thinking people think for themselves and work out what is right and wrong based on ALL the evidence, including that evidence which contradicts our own beliefs. This is how we get to the real truth.
I think it is important to distinguish between belief that is a matter of degree and justified by reason and evidence (on one hand), from religious beliefs (on the other). They are quite different.

Religious beliefs are acts of faith and essentially superstitious..
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/religion
Suedo-ideology and fundamentalist beliefs, like Zionism and Islamism, are derived from acts of faith (e.g. belief in Sacred places,'Holy' books, teachings, scriptures, etc).

Our 'belief' in evolution, for example, cannot be compared to belief in Allah or the Christian 3-for-1 offer. Beliefs about evolution are based on scientific arguments and evidence, not a 'good book'.
senopaty

Jakarta, Indonesia

#8872 Nov 14, 2012
atheis are never
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#8873 Nov 14, 2012
Hi EdSed, I agree. Religious beliefs are is a whole different category. Typically the believer cherry picks his or her beliefs. And then finds confirmatory evidence to confirm thos beliefs.

This is how a believer can get into a continuous circle of reinforcing beliefs with confirmatory evidence. Whilst ignoring that evidence which contradicts those beliefs. People say believers are stupid. And this may be true. But sometimes the cleverer ones are just very good at finding excuses for themselves. Self delusion.

“Penjajah Harus Menyingkir”

Since: Nov 12

Provinsi Banyumas

#8874 Nov 14, 2012
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>If you had been born a Zionist (not all Jews are Zionists) you would be as ruthless against Palestinians as you are against children who disagree with you.
Islamists and Zionists are very similar - both extremists and fundamentalist.
I disagree, islam religion of peace
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#8875 Nov 14, 2012
Adam wrote:
Hi EdSed, I agree. Religious beliefs are is a whole different category. Typically the believer cherry picks his or her beliefs. And then finds confirmatory evidence to confirm thos beliefs.
This is how a believer can get into a continuous circle of reinforcing beliefs with confirmatory evidence. Whilst ignoring that evidence which contradicts those beliefs. People say believers are stupid. And this may be true. But sometimes the cleverer ones are just very good at finding excuses for themselves. Self delusion.
This is so true.(Every time you make a point, I feel compelled to expand it. Sorry :)

Regarding religionists being clever or stupid (relative to atheists.) The mere fact of material success is not proof that someone isn't stupid (e.g. Sarah Palin?) That is one of the complications in determining who is correct about what and to what degree they know best.

Surely, nobody should wish to divide humanity into religionists and atheists (e.g. through the use of the Scouts' Promise).
http://www.humanism.org.uk/news/view/1129
Some people are more practical, intelligent, honest, energetic, productive, or good natured than others. Their religious beliefs or lack of any are not determinants of such questions.

It seems a simple fact that religion is the last bastion of superstition. It's divisive and does far more harm than good.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#8876 Nov 14, 2012
PASUKAN PETA wrote:
<quoted text>I disagree, islam religion of peace
Well, it is a pity about all the evidence to the contrary. It only takes a cartoon to set off some Muslim violence, or someone being the wrong kind of Muslim. For instance, from 1987–2007, as many as 4,000 people are estimated to have died in sectarian fighting in Pakistan,(Wiki). Pakistan only seems to exist because Indian Muslims couldn't live peacefully in India. Muslims also seem to have difficulty living with many other, other-religion majority populations..


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/shiite-pr...

Saudi Arabia ...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/shiite-pr...
etx

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#8877 Nov 14, 2012
ya heba wrote:
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EVERYTHING!!!!!
EVERYTHING is relative.(Einstein) Sodomy, lesbianism, attempted murder of a child, even your misguided philology.

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#8878 Nov 14, 2012
ya heba wrote:
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Airy Fic, kuffar!!!
Airy Fic, kuffar!!!

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#8879 Nov 14, 2012
So here you admit Muslims use acts of violence and murder, even against children to make an example and send a message to anyone who might dare step out I line.

At least you are honest about the barbaric savage nature of Islam and confirm how Islam uses violence to maintain it's numbers as I have stated.
ya heba wrote:
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That's correct.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#8880 Nov 14, 2012
The everyone is born a Muslim but then turns their back on it and God is their excuse to call all infidels evil and worthy to be attacked.
Adam wrote:
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I missed that post. I'm still not sure this acknowledges the problem. The main factor that defines people's religious (and political) beliefs is the family and community in which they are raised.
Everyone is born a Muslim? Seriously, that is funny.
I can say everyone is born with the belief in fairies :) that makes just as much sense.

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