Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Apr 25, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Psychology Today

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Wrong. Religion will never go away
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mikev483 wrote:
"God forgive those who do not believe" and you got "kill these people for me" from it? you need to see your shrink real soon,before you start hurting people
Well, quite frankly if you want to know who has "really" been hurting the majority of earth's peoples throughout it's history... then by-all-means.. carefully read this below: http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/closure.html

Please understand that although Jesus (pronounced "Haysues") did actually exist, he was no more special than those whom we honor today as individuals dedicated towards the "human rights" of all.

And for that alone... he must be respected.
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Richardfs wrote:
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Perhaps I need to be more specific, unfortunately I forgot the godbot's lack a basic education.
When dealing with small sets with real values then a negative may be proved.
When dealing with extremely large sets for example all the grains of sand on all the beaches, in the world.
One could not say there no grains of sand which are blue with GT stripes unless you look at each grain.
However when you are dealing with a set that can not be measured in the first place.
Then the negative can not be proved and it is up the person making the claim to prove their statement.
i.e. If I make the claim; there is a god and that god is an Invisible Pink Unicorn. Then is for me to prove it, not for you to disprove my statement.
If you disagree with me prove that god is not an Invisible Pink Unicorn.


Yet you stated you can not prove a negative and I merely showed that statement to be false. Your response was to attack me personally because I pointed out that you were incorrect. Remind me never to take your crayons, coloring books or wooden blocks because I dislike immature tantrums.
If you believe God is an Invisible Pink Unicorn why would I burst your bubble? The ex-atheist Psychologist Paul Vitz stated "For every person [atheist] strongly swayed by rational argument, there are countless others more affected by nonrational, psychological factors." You merely confirm his observation.
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Atheists Should Practice What They Preach.....

Mind Your Own Business, And GIve Respect And Tolerance To Others.

Philosophy Given By Jesus.

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Cou_Rouge wrote:
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That had to be one of the most ignorant responses that I have ever heard. I may or may not agree with your philosophy, but that was just stupid.
How is it ignorant? Perhaps you just fail to see the point.

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When you don't have an evidence that the Creator God does not exist; then you contradict yourself.
When you don't have evidence that gremlins exist, then you contradict yourself.
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Well, quite frankly if you want to know who has "really" been hurting the majority of earth's peoples throughout it's history... then by-all-means.. carefully read this below: http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/closure.html
Please understand that although Jesus (pronounced "Haysues") did actually exist, he was no more special than those whom we honor today as individuals dedicated towards the "human rights" of all.
And for that alone... he must be respected.
"he was no more special"????

"Jesus was the greatest religious genius that ever lived."
-- Ernest Renan

"I know men and I tell you that Jesus Christ is no mere man. Between Him and every other person in the world there is no possible term of comparison. Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and I have founded empires. But on what did we rest the creation of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ founded His empire upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him."
ľNapoleon Bonaparte

"A man who was completely innocent, offered himself as a sacrifice for the good of others, including his enemies, and became the ransom of the world. It was a perfect act."
Mahatma Gandhi

"I am an historian, I am not a believer, but I must confess as a historian that this penniless preacher from Nazareth is irrevocably the very center of history. Jesus Christ is easily the most dominant figure in all history.
H.G. Wells

"As the centuries pass, the evidence is accumulating that, measured by His effect on history, Jesus is the most influential life ever lived on this planet."
Historian Kenneth Scott Latourette

Case closed.

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Absolutely not, its you who are without argument on the matter.
People have to decide for themselves if they wish to believe in the existance of God or not; his existence cannot be proven, no more than his non-existence.
Having FAITH is believing in something or someone without needing proof, something that is unpalpable or abstract.
Believers put their trust in God,
Atheists put their trust in science to deny his existence.
Agnostics do not commit themselves.
You are incorrect.

The atheist argument is that there is abosolutly zero proof that god exists. It is not up to the atheist to prove a negitive. Faith in the case of theism is wishful thinking. Atheist do not need science to substitute for a god. You were born an atheist, and it wasn't because of science.

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No they don't; belief in God is something personal.
A believer doesn't have to prove his/her belief.
It would turn into a very sterile dicussion anyway, with both sides trying to outdo the other.
What's the point anyway? Has anyone forced you to believe in God?
Spirituality will never be an exact science like mathematics.
Some people need spirituality, other don't.
By the way, I would class myself as agnostic, although raised as a Christian. But I have admired the faith of some people around me at times. I just don't share it, but never felt the need to dismiss it.
They do if they expect others to buy that story. There are people here who claim that the US is a "christian nation". In addition to being historically wrong, it is based on the premise that there is a god, and they feel they may make laws based on that faith. Do you see how it becomes a problem?
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Can't come soon enough. Religious zealots are ruining life in America. They drag education into this rabbit hole, separate people, and a lot of other stuff I don't like.
Talking about "dragging" education into a rabbit's hole.

In 2011, the Department of Education in a report on the NAEP tests, stated "the average reading score for eighth-graders attending public schools was 19 points lower than the overall score for students attending private schools,and 20 points lower than for students attending Catholic schools specifically."

In every round of NAEP reading tests over the past 20 years, Catholic-school eighth-graders have defeated public-school eighth-graders by double-digit margins. The closest the public schools ever got to the Catholic schools was 17 points -- and that was in 1992, long before today's elementary school students were even born.

Apparently religious zealots are smarter than secular zealots. LOL
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The problem is humanity itself.Humans are by nature violent.Civilization is a thinly veiled illusion. The mirage of civilized behavior is exposed somehwere in the world daily.If religion ceased to exist tomorrow other justifications for humanities barbarism would promptly replace it.Of course those with an axe to grind prefer not to believe that truth which speaks more to their true motivations beyond truth.There exists an intolerant angry element of self described "humanist or free thinkers" who detract from the true species.Unfortunately this subspecies seem to thrive on forums like these.Angry people who lash out to soothe the pain they've felt at being rejected by the majority.Vindictive types who rage against those who they view as their tormentors in many cases unfairly.

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Of course you can prove a negative.
There is no full size living African elephant in my garage.
Two plus two is not seven.
Oh no.... Down syndrome is here to demonstrate the ignorance of a theist.

"There is no full size living African elephant in my garage."

That is the assertion. It is not a negative.
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"Two plus two is not seven"
Again, this is a statement of fact based on a proven math system. It is not the same as proving the non-existance of a being.

You would do well to sit a the childrens table.

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Does this include the perverted 'religion' practiced by muslims?
The 'religion' of violence and destruction.
Did you ever notice that atheists NEVER condemm islam?
Is it because atheists are masquerading as muslims to abolish Christianity?
More ignorance from a theist.

Have you ever noticed that there are very, very few Muslims argueing on these boards???? Gee, do you think that might have anything to do with it???? DUUUUUUHHHHHHHH!!!

Maybe you think we are all masquerading as Hindus' because wew don't condem that??

Idiot.

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Theres that thin skin again.Feeling put upon? You my touchy friend have offered more than enough words for one to form and offer a valid supportable opinion of.The judgement of my post was based on asssumptions.
By all means present your case.

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Yet you stated you can not prove a negative and I merely showed that statement to be false. Your response was to attack me personally because I pointed out that you were incorrect. Remind me never to take your crayons, coloring books or wooden blocks because I dislike immature tantrums.
If you believe God is an Invisible Pink Unicorn why would I burst your bubble? The ex-atheist Psychologist Paul Vitz stated "For every person [atheist] strongly swayed by rational argument, there are countless others more affected by nonrational, psychological factors." You merely confirm his observation.
So when someone says "the moon is out tonite" you must panic, eh?

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wolverine wrote:
Atheists Should Practice What They Preach.....
Mind Your Own Business, And GIve Respect And Tolerance To Others.
Philosophy Given By Jesus.
Yet YOU came to an atheist forum.

Where did jesus say "mind your own business"?(I am sure that isn't a direct quote, but I would like to know where you got that idea.)
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Okay, so all I see here is a bunch of hate speech.
To answer a few points made on this forum..
1.) Collective spirituality MAY cease to exist someday, and that would be a GREAT thing, because collectively people destroy any truth in trying to explain spirituality.
2.)Religious "monkeys" may stur up trouble, but the root evil is in how others react to their often insane ways. Like if when Isreal was given to the Jews, if everyone just accepted these people as misplaced and without a home, and not get completely butt hurt about it, we may not have an offensive Jew-Muslim conflict right now.
3.) And I care about reason too, its just in my life I have found that there are some things best left unexplained by science ie. death, existence of a soul, etc. because for many the rules of science doesnt match how they see those aspects of the world. You CAN reason that God exists, though based off of material evidence God doesnt.
4.)Religon IS built off of others suffering because it was built by people.. If people minded their own buisness in regards to their spirituality, and kept it personal then there would be no issue, much like the Druid-Christian comparison.
When people just call out religions as the root of evil it sounds hostile, because it is not specific enough. No one can deny that someone taking only good instruction from these books is a very GOOD, not evil thing. Its just when people try to apply it to EVERYTHING that it fails. Science does rule modern world, but for many, the human spirit looks outward to try and explain those things that are harder to grasp, even if tlogically he explaination should just be we die and nothing else happens.

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"he was no more special"????
"Jesus was the greatest religious genius that ever lived."
-- Ernest Renan
"I know men and I tell you that Jesus Christ is no mere man. Between Him and every other person in the world there is no possible term of comparison. Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and I have founded empires. But on what did we rest the creation of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ founded His empire upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him."
ľNapoleon Bonaparte
"A man who was completely innocent, offered himself as a sacrifice for the good of others, including his enemies, and became the ransom of the world. It was a perfect act."
Mahatma Gandhi
"I am an historian, I am not a believer, but I must confess as a historian that this penniless preacher from Nazareth is irrevocably the very center of history. Jesus Christ is easily the most dominant figure in all history.
H.G. Wells
"As the centuries pass, the evidence is accumulating that, measured by His effect on history, Jesus is the most influential life ever lived on this planet."
Historian Kenneth Scott Latourette
Case closed.
Yet there is zero historical evidence that he existed.

Case closed.

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The problem is humanity itself.Humans are by nature violent.Civilization is a thinly veiled illusion. The mirage of civilized behavior is exposed somehwere in the world daily.If religion ceased to exist tomorrow other justifications for humanities barbarism would promptly replace it.Of course those with an axe to grind prefer not to believe that truth which speaks more to their true motivations beyond truth.There exists an intolerant angry element of self described "humanist or free thinkers" who detract from the true species.Unfortunately this subspecies seem to thrive on forums like these.Angry people who lash out to soothe the pain they've felt at being rejected by the majority.Vindictive types who rage against those who they view as their tormentors in many cases unfairly.
You sure did a lot of typing and said nothing.
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You are incorrect.
The atheist argument is that there is abosolutly zero proof that god exists. It is not up to the atheist to prove a negitive. Faith in the case of theism is wishful thinking. Atheist do not need science to substitute for a god. You were born an atheist, and it wasn't because of science.


Okay, prove a natural cause for the Big Bang and if you are completely open minded, and can not prove a natural cause, what would you include as options? The present scientific consensus is matter, energy, space and time were all created at the moment of the Big Bang. If the prevailing consensus is correct nothing that we consider 'natural' preexisted the Big Bang to cause it. Yet other than 'natural' we really have only 'supernatural' so one could make a strong argument that logically the supernatural exists by default.

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