Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24178 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Garry UK

London, UK

#8449 Oct 19, 2012
paarsurrey wrote:
I don't think it will ever happen; since there is not a single evidence with the atheists that the Creator God does not exist.
If you have give it here.
I cannot prove that dragons, pixies, or Santa, exist in the sense you describe. Of course I can't produce them, like you with God. However your arguement that God, Harry Potter, and the Tooth Fairy cannot be disproved is well made!
spandexxx

Rijswijk, Netherlands

#8450 Oct 19, 2012
MUQ wrote:
Religion will cease to exist the day humans cease to exist on this planet.
Or the power of judgment and distinction between truth and falsehood and right and wrong is removed from human conscience and sub conscience.
Well my conscience and sub conscience are telling me that you are an intollerant and arrogant prick, that your religion is evil and violent and you are despretly trying to masquerade/justify it as peacefull and good because you have been brainwashed sinds you where born and do not have 1 original thought outside the boundaries of your indoctrinated religion.
Everybody that claims to know what is unknown is a liar and a charlatan because nobody has more sences of perception then an other.
My conscience and sub conscience are also telling me that everybody who truly believes that because of 1 man 1400 years ago that people started to write about more then 100 years after his alleged life and death claim to exist because of myth story's and have never even met the man or even have physical evidence of him that claimed he received messages from an an entity that claimed to be an angel and claiming he had a message from god without there being any other people to witness this angel that if people now do not believe this mythe they will burn in hell forever are brainwashed and prohibited to think for themselves.
Even if it is all true a god who condems people for iternity on this basis is a sadistic ahole in my book that i do not want to know.
Jacktheladat1

Glasgow, UK

#8451 Oct 19, 2012
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Superstition
<quoted text>No this is, "..denial is your own action about which you have control and you shall be questioned about "every thing" over which you had control." YOUR idea of Islam is where a girl gets shot in the head for wanting to attend school and you fail to condemn it.
You are being ignorant, superstitious and backward, Muq.
No change then, Muq is being Muq we all know.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#8452 Oct 19, 2012
MUQ wrote:
Yes the consequences of denial are much more than dieing.
Death is a natural state that engulfs everyone and no one has choice or control over it.
But denial is your own action about which you have control and you shall be questioned about "every thing" over which you had control.
This is Islam in its simplest.
Exactly, denying that which you do not believe, gets no respect.

What it gets is much worse than death, first it gets you hated, then it gets you vilified, then tortured to death.
Ask anyone who believes in that peaceful Islamic religion of death, if they respect other religions, as they respect their own ......... and the answer will be "No".

Ask someone from most other religions if they respect the religion of peace, if they respect the Muslim religion, and many, too many will say "Yes.

That tells me that most followers of imaginary gods, are willing to let you follow your own imaginary god, but the Muslims will not tolerate you following the god of your choosing, unless it is also their god of choice.

But then the Islamic terrorist religion of hatred and death isn't about choice, now is it? Even if you have forced children to bow to your imaginary god, they may grow up to spit in your face. Most know at some point in their lives, that they have had no choice.

Is that why some are cajoled into dying by suicide, while trying to bring about the willful murder of others?

Islam in its simplest, death, hatred, murder, usury, but not peace?
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#8454 Oct 19, 2012
Which “Sword” the Prophet Used against his enemies: Part-10

Enemies of Islam represent our prophet as a very cruel and blood thirsty man, who would kill his “opponents, enemies and any one who disagreed with him” at “the drop of hat” and all his adversaries would be “terrified” at the mere sight of him.

The picture is far from true, let us look at some incidents from the life of prophet, as what was “this sword which killed the enmity for ever”

The Case of : UMAIR BIN WAHAB JUMHI

Umair was from the clan of Bani Jumh of Makkah, he was amongst those who used to oppose the prophet and Muslims in Makkah.

He remained enemy of Islam during the stay of prophet in Makkah and when prophet fled to Makkah, his opposition to Islam was not diminished any more.

When the Battle of Badr took place in year 2 AH and the pride of Makkan was smashed and they lost most prominent of its leaders and warriors…..whole Makkah was engulfed in gloom. There was not a single clan, which had not suffered one or more causality.

Umair was captured during the battle of Badr, he beseeched prophet to have mercy on him and release him without any taking any money, as he was poor and cannot pay any ransom money. Prophet took mercy on him and released him without any ransom.

One day after the Battle of Badr, Umair and Safwan the son of Umaaiyah, were sitting in the Hateem (a portion of Kaabah) and discussing the situation.

“Life is not worth living after Badr” said Safwan,“I wished there was some way, in which I could take my revenge”.

“I have a fool proof plan to assassinate the prophet” said Umair “But I have a large debt and my children are still small”

“I will pay your debt, and will treat your children as my children till my death” said Safwan “what is your plan?”

“I know that Mohammad does not keep any personal body guards” Said Umar “I will poison my dagger with a very potent poison and go to Mohammad to discuss release of our captives, and then seeing an opening, I will injure him with dagger, he will not be able to survive the poison”.

So Umair left for Medina and Safwan was very happy, he kept telling fellow Makkan to be ready to receive some good news shortly.

Umair reached Madina, Omar saw him coming and took immediate alarm , He bound him with his own garment and brought him to prophet “This Dog of Satan, has come but with some evil intent” he said to the prophet.

“Omar release him” said the prophet, and when Umair came near him, he asked what was his purpose.

“I came to seek release of such and such captives” said Umair

“And what about the matter which you and Safwan discussed in Hateem” asked the prophet.

Umair was stunned, no one knew of the plot except him and Safwan, how did prophet came to know, surely he must have some other source of information. He was immediately convinced of the truth of prophet and accepted Islam then and there.

Now Safwan was awaiting good news from Madina, when “Good News” reached to him that Umair had become Muslim, he said “I never want to see his face again in my life”!!

(Later the Same Safwan was slain by the “Sword of Prophet” after conquest of Makkah in 8AH)

Such is the story of Umair Bin Wahab, who was “Slain” by the “Sword of Unseen Information” of Prophet!!

Source: Companions of Prophet: by Talib Hashmi

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#8455 Oct 19, 2012
MUQ wrote:
Which “Sword” the Prophet Used against his enemies: Part-10
Enemies of Islam represent our prophet as a very cruel and blood thirsty man, who would kill his “opponents, enemies and any one who disagreed with him” at “the drop of hat” and all his adversaries would be “terrified” at the mere sight of him.
The picture is far from true, let us look at some incidents from the life of prophet, as what was “this sword which killed the enmity for ever”
The Case of : UMAIR BIN WAHAB JUMHI
Umair was from the clan of Bani Jumh of Makkah, he was amongst those who used to oppose the prophet and Muslims in Makkah.
He remained enemy of Islam during the stay of prophet in Makkah and when prophet fled to Makkah, his opposition to Islam was not diminished any more.
When the Battle of Badr took place in year 2 AH and the pride of Makkan was smashed and they lost most prominent of its leaders and warriors…..whole Makkah was engulfed in gloom. There was not a single clan, which had not suffered one or more causality.
Umair was captured during the battle of Badr, he beseeched prophet to have mercy on him and release him without any taking any money, as he was poor and cannot pay any ransom money. Prophet took mercy on him and released him without any ransom.
One day after the Battle of Badr, Umair and Safwan the son of Umaaiyah, were sitting in the Hateem (a portion of Kaabah) and discussing the situation.
“Life is not worth living after Badr” said Safwan,“I wished there was some way, in which I could take my revenge”.
“I have a fool proof plan to assassinate the prophet” said Umair “But I have a large debt and my children are still small”
“I will pay your debt, and will treat your children as my children till my death” said Safwan “what is your plan?”
“I know that Mohammad does not keep any personal body guards” Said Umar “I will poison my dagger with a very potent poison and go to Mohammad to discuss release of our captives, and then seeing an opening, I will injure him with dagger, he will not be able to survive the poison”.
So Umair left for Medina and Safwan was very happy, he kept telling fellow Makkan to be ready to receive some good news shortly.
Umair reached Madina, Omar saw him coming and took immediate alarm , He bound him with his own garment and brought him to prophet “This Dog of Satan, has come but with some evil intent” he said to the prophet.
“Omar release him” said the prophet, and when Umair came near him, he asked what was his purpose.
“I came to seek release of such and such captives” said Umair
“And what about the matter which you and Safwan discussed in Hateem” asked the prophet.
Umair was stunned, no one knew of the plot except him and Safwan, how did prophet came to know, surely he must have some other source of information. He was immediately convinced of the truth of prophet and accepted Islam then and there.
Now Safwan was awaiting good news from Madina, when “Good News” reached to him that Umair had become Muslim, he said “I never want to see his face again in my life”!!
(Later the Same Safwan was slain by the “Sword of Prophet” after conquest of Makkah in 8AH)
Such is the story of Umair Bin Wahab, who was “Slain” by the “Sword of Unseen Information” of Prophet!!
Source: Companions of Prophet: by Talib Hashmi
You damned coward.
You want respect for your beliefs, then grow up and learn respect, learn to stand up for yourself, learn the truth.
Now answer the questions.

Why do you support murder?

Why do you support genocide?

Why do you support rape?

If I am wrong about the above then denounce it.
Don’t resort to the copy and paste that you do. Answer in your words.

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#8456 Oct 19, 2012
If your religion is worth killing for, please start with yourself.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#8457 Oct 19, 2012
RP wrote:
01. Exactly, denying that which you do not believe, gets no respect.

02. What it gets is much worse than death, first it gets you hated, then it gets you vilified, then tortured to death.
Ask anyone who believes in that peaceful Islamic religion of death, if they respect other religions, as they respect their own ......... and the answer will be "No".

03. Ask someone from most other religions if they respect the religion of peace, if they respect the Muslim religion, and many, too many will say "Yes.

04. That tells me that most followers of imaginary gods, are willing to let you follow your own imaginary god, but the Muslims will not tolerate you following the god of your choosing, unless it is also their god of choice.

05. But then the Islamic terrorist religion of hatred and death isn't about choice, now is it? Even if you have forced children to bow to your imaginary god, they may grow up to spit in your face. Most know at some point in their lives, that they have had no choice.

06. Is that why some are cajoled into dying by suicide, while trying to bring about the willful murder of others?

07. Islam in its simplest, death, hatred, murder, usury, but not peace?
Ans.

01. What else should one do to say to some thing in which one does not believe? He should try to be non committal and let people into false hope that they might be right?

02. I do not know what you are trying to convey here?

03. I can only say that forces of falsehood join together to silence the forces of truth. So it is not strange that “people of every other religions agree that Islam is evil”…it shows that they all are afraid of the truth!

04. Muslims will tolerate people of other faith, but they will first tell them that the path you are following is wrong and will lead you into hell fire.

After saying that Muslims will not mind if people of other faith continue in their own religion, at least they must know that they are following wrong path.

05. What I said above speaks about the choice, people should have choice but first they should be told about the gravity of situation they are facing. It is not a mere child’s play to keep on following religion of your forefathers.

06. Suicide is not allowed in Islam and killing innocent people is one of the Biggest of Big Sins in Islam.

07. The name Islam itslef stands for peace, and peace be on to you is the standard greeting in Islam.

Sow what you say is wrong and what islam says is right!!
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#8458 Oct 19, 2012
PS: Some people are getting stark Mad with hate and rage, you can find froth coming out of their mouth.

And all that hate and hatred and froth....just because I am telling from the real life of our prophet as to how he "Killed and Captured" his bitterest enemies!!

They have no argument to counter my posts, so they compensate that with their hate filled vitriol.

Let every one take note!!
walter

Warwick, NY

#8459 Oct 19, 2012
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Since: Mar 11

Latonia, KY

#8460 Oct 19, 2012
You supported a 14 year old getting gunned down on her school bus. What more needs to be said about your barbaric sub human behaving religion?

Nobody is angry Muq. We pity you because you must have had a horrible life to feel such glee from the gunning down of a child who merely asked for more education.
MUQ wrote:
PS: Some people are getting stark Mad with hate and rage, you can find froth coming out of their mouth.
And all that hate and hatred and froth....just because I am telling from the real life of our prophet as to how he "Killed and Captured" his bitterest enemies!!
They have no argument to counter my posts, so they compensate that with their hate filled vitriol.
Let every one take note!!

“Right click Left click Yay!”

Since: Dec 10

Nehwon

#8461 Oct 20, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Not set MYSELF as the master, no no...but that people become slaves of the Lord of Universe, who is their creator and sustainer and cherisher.
What is personal gain in it for me?
Every Muslim gets the same right and duties as any old Muslim, so where is the superiority?
If some one becomes Muslim, he or she saves himself and herself from hell fire, there is no favor to any Muslim.
Your assumption in wrong.
"but that people become slaves of the Lord of Universe, who is their creator and sustainer and cherisher."

You do realize that two of those words in that phrase are in direct contradiction to each other, right?

So if you claim that you aren't setting yourself up to be a slave master, what's the payoff for you to convince someone to join your religion?

Do you have to have x number of converts to get into heaven? Or is your faith alone enough? Or is it something like a frequent flyer upgrade type thing? Convert 10 people, move 1 row closer to the Lord of the Universe.

And what guarantee do you have that if I convert, that we both won't end up in hell? What if I was on the right path, but through your deception, you corrupted me to follow what could turn out to be the anti-christ?

Let me guess... time for you to copy-paste a bunch of words I'm not going to read.

“Right click Left click Yay!”

Since: Dec 10

Nehwon

#8462 Oct 20, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Depends on the area. The key difference between most Muslims and most christians is that christians choose their vile religious doctrine, and most Muslims have no choice due to the gang-like recruitment. Most Muslims don't believe in the superstitious nonsense, but they fear denying it more than they fear dying.
Not sure if I'll agree with that christians choose their religion. I think it's more a circumstance of the location of their birth.

Christians may choose a flavor of christianity, but I don't think too many break away completely. Peer pressure can be a powerful force.

EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#8463 Oct 20, 2012
MUQ wrote:
PS: Some people are getting stark Mad with hate and rage, you can find froth coming out of their mouth.
And all that hate and hatred and froth....just because I am telling from the real life of our prophet as to how he "Killed and Captured" his bitterest enemies!!
They have no argument to counter my posts, so they compensate that with their hate filled vitriol.
Let every one take note!!
There are no bitterest enemies here, Muq, you're on Topix. Do calm down. And what hate-filled vitriol?
Honestly, Muq, I think you need to seek some psychiatric help.

Since: Mar 11

Latonia, KY

#8464 Oct 20, 2012
Psychiatric help for Muq is the guy who sells smokes down the street who has slightly less sht on his feet than the other unwashed masses.

That's about as good as he can get.
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>There are no bitterest enemies here, Muq, you're on Topix. Do calm down. And what hate-filled vitriol?
Honestly, Muq, I think you need to seek some psychiatric help.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#8465 Oct 20, 2012
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>There are no bitterest enemies here, Muq, you're on Topix. Do calm down. And what hate-filled vitriol?
Honestly, Muq, I think you need to seek some psychiatric help.
You are on topix and still you cannot find out the hate filled messages. It is strange that you are asking me to get composed and not to these persons.

I am posting cool messages from the life of our prophet, which some how seems to stuck the violent chord in them, the problem is not with me, it is with them.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#8466 Oct 20, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
You are on topix and still you cannot find out the hate filled messages. It is strange that you are asking me to get composed and not to these persons.
I am posting cool messages from the life of our prophet, which some how seems to stuck the violent chord in them, the problem is not with me, it is with them.
You are delusional and need psychiatric help.

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#8467 Oct 20, 2012
MUQ wrote:
PS: Some people are getting stark Mad with hate and rage, you can find froth coming out of their mouth.
And all that hate and hatred and froth....just because I am telling from the real life of our prophet as to how he "Killed and Captured" his bitterest enemies!!
They have no argument to counter my posts, so they compensate that with their hate filled vitriol.
Let every one take note!!
No it is not hate it is frustration do to the lies of religion. You claim Islam is the religion of peace, but never denounce the hideous acts of those that perpetrate the acts. You defend the acts with words from the quran and never your own words or thoughts on the acts.

From your none actions you portray the hate filled vitriol of your life and religion.

Your words and the religion you practice all people of the world that do not believe as you are bitter enemies like the “prophet” killed and captured. You expect us to believe that your religion is one of love.

Yes we are mad at the amoral acts of any religion, and the acts of the people that act upon them as if it is from a god. The truth is they are just blood thirsty reprobates that get their kicks out of killing, and you stand up and believe the acts are proper and ok.

How would you have a society judge you?
Jacktheladat1

Glasgow, UK

#8468 Oct 20, 2012
Very Cynical Person wrote:
<quoted text>
You damned coward.
You want respect for your beliefs, then grow up and learn respect, learn to stand up for yourself, learn the truth.
Now answer the questions.
Why do you support murder?
Why do you support genocide?
Why do you support rape?
If I am wrong about the above then denounce it.
Don’t resort to the copy and paste that you do. Answer in your words.
You're asking an idiot to carry-out something that the rest of us need a translator's assistance to comprehend, have a heart!
Jacktheladat1

Glasgow, UK

#8469 Oct 20, 2012
greymouser wrote:
<quoted text>
Not sure if I'll agree with that christians choose their religion. I think it's more a circumstance of the location of their birth.
Christians may choose a flavor of christianity, but I don't think too many break away completely. Peer pressure can be a powerful force.
I was born & raised in slums. ALL the mums & dads of ALL the kids sent them (kids) to Sunday School for NO other reason than for a couple of hours peace from them (kids). Yes, peer pressure is a powerful force. There is NO wonder I'm a devout atheist.

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