Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Apr 25, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Psychology Today

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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dafa

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Oct 5, 2012
 
the difference between humans and animals is abstract thinking and immagination and religion is just one of the manifestations of it. religion might change or evolve like it's been happening since the beggining of time but for it to disappear would be going against how the human brain has evolved and is wired. just look at atheists, many of them are ready to argue and defend and many times even try to impose their supposed lack of religion on others. is that not the same behaviour that religious people engage in ?
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Oct 5, 2012
 
Well, I'm 81 and could'nt give a shit. If Atheism/common sense dos'nt replace religous nonsense quite soon, the human monkey will be toast!

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Oct 5, 2012
 
Alexey25 wrote:
Not in UK.
UK will be under sharia law by 2038.
Er, you're wrong, you know.

Tell you what, why don't you show me your sources for your views. That's not too difficult, is it? Show me the reports which support your views buttressed by expert opinion and evidence.

You show me your sources and I'll show you mine. Here's your chance to show everyone that you're not simply scaremongering through your own ignorance. I can't say fairer than that.

I know, I know. I'm way too fair for my own good.

I'll post my sources shortly. I await yours.

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Oct 5, 2012
 
Alexey25 wrote:
Not in UK.
UK will be under sharia law by 2038.
Don't believe all that you read in the newspapers.

Why don't you check out the U.S. National Intelligence Council which produced a detailed report mapping the future?

http://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Global%20T...

Page 19 shows the in-depth methodology used in compiling the information, which you will find , if you bother reading it, is far more detailed and extensive than the views of a scaremongering newspaper reporter.

The report provides various different scenarios with the worst one showing the number of Muslims in Europe increasing from roughly 20 million today — about 5 percent of the population to 38 million by 2025. Even if those figures are accurate it would only mean about 8% of Europe would be Muslim.

I guess you believe that all 8% will be fundamentalists. Of course, you'll be wrong and the real percentage of fundamental Muslim radicals would be miniscule.

For us to be overrun by Muslims would require breeding on a scale never seen in history and for immigration to continue at a pace that's now politically and economically unacceptable.

Given the current economic climate, it's safe to say that new controls will slow Muslim immigration. The birthrate for Muslim immigrants is also likely to continue to decline, as it has tended to do, with greater affluence and better health care. There is no Europe wide data available, but one study says fertility rates among Turkish-born women in the Netherlands fell from 3.2 in 1990 to 1.9 in 2005, barely above the figure for native-born Dutch. Over the same period, the equivalent figure for Moroccan-born women in the Netherlands dropped from 4.9 to 2.9.

http://www.demographic-research.org/Volumes/V...

Your scaremongering also implies that Islam is a united front acting in harmony with all its followers on the warpath to creating UKistan. The truth is that there are no powerful Muslim political movements in Europe, either continent wide or at the national level, and the divisions that separate Muslims worldwide, most obviously between Sunnis and Shiites, are apparent in Europe as well.

Ok, your turn now.

Let's see your sources.

The floor is yours..........

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Oct 5, 2012
 
We have many wonderful works of art, poetry, stories, music without religion in fact most of the greatest are non religious.

All religion does is prove superstition and we see that even in pigeons.

You fail.
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the difference between humans and animals is abstract thinking and immagination and religion is just one of the manifestations of it. religion might change or evolve like it's been happening since the beggining of time but for it to disappear would be going against how the human brain has evolved and is wired. just look at atheists, many of them are ready to argue and defend and many times even try to impose their supposed lack of religion on others. is that not the same behaviour that religious people engage in ?
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Khatru wrote:
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Don't believe all that you read in the newspapers.
Why don't you check out the U.S. National Intelligence Council which produced a detailed report mapping the future?
http://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Global%20T...
Page 19 shows the in-depth methodology used in compiling the information, which you will find , if you bother reading it, is far more detailed and extensive than the views of a scaremongering newspaper reporter.
The report provides various different scenarios with the worst one showing the number of Muslims in Europe increasing from roughly 20 million today — about 5 percent of the population to 38 million by 2025. Even if those figures are accurate it would only mean about 8% of Europe would be Muslim.
I guess you believe that all 8% will be fundamentalists. Of course, you'll be wrong and the real percentage of fundamental Muslim radicals would be miniscule.
For us to be overrun by Muslims would require breeding on a scale never seen in history and for immigration to continue at a pace that's now politically and economically unacceptable.
Given the current economic climate, it's safe to say that new controls will slow Muslim immigration. The birthrate for Muslim immigrants is also likely to continue to decline, as it has tended to do, with greater affluence and better health care. There is no Europe wide data available, but one study says fertility rates among Turkish-born women in the Netherlands fell from 3.2 in 1990 to 1.9 in 2005, barely above the figure for native-born Dutch. Over the same period, the equivalent figure for Moroccan-born women in the Netherlands dropped from 4.9 to 2.9.
http://www.demographic-research.org/Volumes/V...
Your scaremongering also implies that Islam is a united front acting in harmony with all its followers on the warpath to creating UKistan. The truth is that there are no powerful Muslim political movements in Europe, either continent wide or at the national level, and the divisions that separate Muslims worldwide, most obviously between Sunnis and Shiites, are apparent in Europe as well.
Ok, your turn now.
Let's see your sources.
The floor is yours..........
Just a comment, I'm English and an Atheist. I've lived in france for over 20 years. "Paris is not France"! Just as "London is not England" All the people I have ever met are French first and thier religion is thier own business, secondry to being French. No problems! A true paradice of live and let live.
MUQ

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Oct 5, 2012
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
Today most human atrocities are carried out in the name of Allah.
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The world was not created today?

If you do not know what happened yesterday, your knowledge will be imperfect.

And you cannot predict about tomorrow.
MUQ

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Oct 5, 2012
 
RP wrote:
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"A Christian is a person who wants to give up great things in a real life for mediocre things in an imaginary one. More importantly, they demand you do the same." ~ Samuel Clemens

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"Isn't it a remarkable coincidence almost everyone has the same religion as their parents? And it always just happens to be the right religion. Religions run in families. If we'd been brought up in ancient Greece we would all be worshiping Zeus and Apollo. If we had been born Vikings we would be worshiping Wotan and Thor. How does this come about? Through childhood indoctrination." ~ Richard Dawkins
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01. Such are "idealistic definition" that have nothing to do with real concept of Christianity. In practical terms a Christian is a person, who believes in Trinity, and that Jesus died for his sins, and does not consider any possibility that a Prophet of God can come after Jesus. So he has made his mind shut.

02. It is con correct to say that every one follows the religion of his parents.

If that was the case, their would not be a Single Christian in the world!!

Did not the disciples of Jesus and earliest Christians left the religion of their parents and accepted new religion?

People have been continuously changing their religions and that trend has never stopped fully, but it has been slowed down.

The comments by Richard Dawkins are very superficial and valid for a specific stage in the life of established religions of the world.

“God=Registered Sex Offender!”

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MUQ wrote:
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01. Such are "idealistic definition" that have nothing to do with real concept of Christianity. In practical terms a Christian is a person, who believes in Trinity, and that Jesus died for his sins, and does not consider any possibility that a Prophet of God can come after Jesus. So he has made his mind shut.
Liar! The only reason you lie about TRUE Christians is because you are unsaved trash and you need to accept the atoning death of Christ and abandon the FALSE preachings of the Devil's own Islamic cult. I am a TRUE Christian and I am a prophet of God! EVERY Christian who is a TRUE Christian and speaks regularly in tongues, through the power of the Holy Spirit, IS A PROPHET OF GOD! My obese, buckshot-in-the-gums, pastor is a prophet. The church janitor with unpaid child support is a prophet. The 12-bucks-an-hour secretary who denies evolution is a prophet. The bus driver who locks himself in a prayer closet is a prophet...EVERY TRUE Christian is a prophet! Jesus Christ was not a "Prophet". Jesus Christ IS GOD born of FLESH...Here, educate yourself:

http://youtu.be/pWPbywYHbEA

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Brit Expat wrote:
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Just a comment, I'm English and an Atheist. I've lived in france for over 20 years. "Paris is not France"! Just as "London is not England" All the people I have ever met are French first and thier religion is thier own business, secondry to being French. No problems! A true paradice of live and let live.
You're right.

I've done a fair bit of travelling and I've always believed that going out into the country and away from the capital city is a good way to see what a country is really about.

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I can predict that your sub human behaving blood thirsty Allah lickers will rape, maim and kill innocent children with glee for not being Muslims as they have from the start.

Do you deny this?
Of course not you support this barbaric behavior.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>The world was not created today?

If you do not know what happened yesterday, your knowledge will be imperfect.

And you cannot predict about tomorrow.
Henry

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Oct 6, 2012
 
dafa wrote:
the difference between humans and animals is abstract thinking and immagination and religion is just one of the manifestations of it. religion might change or evolve like it's been happening since the beggining of time but for it to disappear would be going against how the human brain has evolved and is wired. just look at atheists, many of them are ready to argue and defend and many times even try to impose their supposed lack of religion on others. is that not the same behaviour that religious people engage in ?
Science is quite different! Atheists are based on reality, religion is a phantasm. That is the difference! The uneducated masses (even in the socalled Bible belt) are not aware of this life difference. Capitalism don`t deny this, because they are afraid of education.
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Oct 6, 2012
 
dafa wrote:
karl mark was not a christian but a jew as were many socialists and communists at that time.
First of all: not Karl Mark, but Karl Marx and he was surely a communist and a Atheist!
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Jacktheladat1 wrote:
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A good education is what is obviously lacking judging by the number of poor souls who cannot see that the matter which their bodies are made from will be recycled into nature, EXACTLY the same as ANY OTHER matter. I've asked for a logical explanation to oppose the above, only to be told I'm nuts and clueless. Therefore, I'll ask once again those who are NOT nuts & clueless, WHERE does YOUR bodily elements and molecules go after your death? Simple question. Why not offer a simple LOGICAL response, without citing any religion or religious readings/doctorings or similar unproven argument?
Long ago science has given the answer!
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That is what you think, which god was responsible for the following wars that damaged the peace of world?
- European economic fights in 15-20 th centuries?
- WW-1 and WW-2?
- Vietnam War?
- Korean War?
- Gulf war of 1990 and 2003?
- USSR invasion of Afghanistan that resulted in millions of people getting killed?
I am more than 100 % sure that MOST of killings and wars in the world have been based on Linguistic, Ethnic, Nationalist , Economic and Personal ambitions of Leaders and Presidents and Kings and Queens......they have had very little or no relation with any god or any religion.
Apparently you have very little analyzing power and have no concept of human history, you just believe what you are told by your highly biased media (Print, TV and Film, all of which are controlled by a very small group which has its own agenda while pretending that they are unbiased, reasonable and only tell the truth)
No god, religion is just full of lies nothing else!
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dafa wrote:
the difference between humans and animals is abstract thinking and immagination and religion is just one of the manifestations of it. religion might change or evolve like it's been happening since the beggining of time but for it to disappear would be going against how the human brain has evolved and is wired. just look at atheists, many of them are ready to argue and defend and many times even try to impose their supposed lack of religion on others. is that not the same behaviour that religious people engage in ?
Religion and science is absolutely different. Science is based on facts, religion on phantasm!
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A good education is what is obviously lacking judging by the number of poor souls who cannot see that the matter which their bodies are made from will be recycled into nature, EXACTLY the same as ANY OTHER matter. I've asked for a logical explanation to oppose the above, only to be told I'm nuts and clueless. Therefore, I'll ask once again those who are NOT nuts & clueless, WHERE does YOUR bodily elements and molecules go after your death? Simple question. Why not offer a simple LOGICAL response, without citing any religion or religious readings/doctorings or similar unproven argument?
Science is the natural enemy of any religion!
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Alexey25 wrote:
Not in UK.
UK will be under sharia law by 2038.
This is laughable.
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Oct 6, 2012
 
tomking tom wrote:
If there has been religion for the past years yo prediri
Religion has been and will owez do coz there is a God in heaven... Here is the proof.. Go behing yo house pluck a leaf from any of yo trees look at the design and tell me it was just chance its desgned that way if u do check yo rational thinking
God never existed!
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A good education is what is obviously lacking judging by the number of poor souls who cannot see that the matter which their bodies are made from will be recycled into nature, EXACTLY the same as ANY OTHER matter. I've asked for a logical explanation to oppose the above, only to be told I'm nuts and clueless. Therefore, I'll ask once again those who are NOT nuts & clueless, WHERE does YOUR bodily elements and molecules go after your death? Simple question. Why not offer a simple LOGICAL response, without citing any religion or religious readings/doctorings or similar unproven argument?
Science has given the answer long ago.

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