Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24181 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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jacktheladat1

Sheffield, UK

#8245 Oct 4, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
If not for your god you could live in peace with those of other faiths or no faith. Sad yes? Think of all the innocents murdered in the name of your false pagan moon god Allah.
<quoted text>
I admire your (very apt) choice of words.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#8246 Oct 5, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
If not for your god you could live in peace with those of other faiths or no faith. Sad yes? Think of all the innocents murdered in the name of your false pagan moon god Allah.
<quoted text>
That is what you think, which god was responsible for the following wars that damaged the peace of world?

- European economic fights in 15-20 th centuries?

- WW-1 and WW-2?

- Vietnam War?

- Korean War?

- Gulf war of 1990 and 2003?

- USSR invasion of Afghanistan that resulted in millions of people getting killed?

I am more than 100 % sure that MOST of killings and wars in the world have been based on Linguistic, Ethnic, Nationalist , Economic and Personal ambitions of Leaders and Presidents and Kings and Queens......they have had very little or no relation with any god or any religion.

Apparently you have very little analyzing power and have no concept of human history, you just believe what you are told by your highly biased media (Print, TV and Film, all of which are controlled by a very small group which has its own agenda while pretending that they are unbiased, reasonable and only tell the truth)
henry

Heilbad Heiligenstadt, Germany

#8247 Oct 5, 2012
The serpent was right wrote:
We can only hope that this is true.
I myself are an Atheist for 70 Years and I will stay so till the
end of my life.
henry

Heilbad Heiligenstadt, Germany

#8248 Oct 5, 2012
Fook FM wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't forget the fear of death.
Fear of death is just a wrong education.

Since: Mar 11

Latonia, KY

#8249 Oct 5, 2012
Today most human atrocities are carried out in the name of Allah.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>That is what you think, which god was responsible for the following wars that damaged the peace of world?

- European economic fights in 15-20 th centuries?

- WW-1 and WW-2?

- Vietnam War?

- Korean War?

- Gulf war of 1990 and 2003?

- USSR invasion of Afghanistan that resulted in millions of people getting killed?

I am more than 100 % sure that MOST of killings and wars in the world have been based on Linguistic, Ethnic, Nationalist , Economic and Personal ambitions of Leaders and Presidents and Kings and Queens......they have had very little or no relation with any god or any religion.

Apparently you have very little analyzing power and have no concept of human history, you just believe what you are told by your highly biased media (Print, TV and Film, all of which are controlled by a very small group which has its own agenda while pretending that they are unbiased, reasonable and only tell the truth)
henry

Heilbad Heiligenstadt, Germany

#8250 Oct 5, 2012
He who knows wrote:
<quoted text>
I actually read that Karl Marx was very likely a satanist, especially right after high school. Online documentaries and even poems written by Marx appear to indicate that during his childhood and teen years, Marx was indeed a Christian, but after high school, Marx completely turned over and became a satanist. Still more preserved poems and stuff written by Marx during his adulthood have even revealed that Marx had developed apparently a burning and raging hatred for both God and mankind. And not long after Marx's fall from God's grace, Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto and presented it at some sort of international socialist whatever it was. And as everyone can see, the communist manifesto is brutally tearing society apart. Homelessness, hunger, destroyed families, rampant illnesses, a huge wide gap between the rich and the poor that is being pried ever wider. Because of the communist manifesto, numerous nations are collapsing, some have allready collapsed and even devolved into iron-fisted dictatorships (for example, Cuba, Zimbabwe, and North Korea). Even recently, in 1991, the communist Soviet Union collapsed. And now America is also about to collapse (see http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20G... for more proof). I suspect that the communist manifesto may have had somewhat of a role in both world wars.
To declare Karl Marx a satanist is humorous no more. Not the communist manifesto is tearing apart society but capitalism. BTW capitalism and war are twins. But oh my dear, the United States never was communist,this nations is an imperialistic states on the verge of collaps. Jesus a savior, just a laugh no more! All religions are mere fakes no more.
JATT

London, UK

#8251 Oct 5, 2012
Well i hope we do get rid of this superstitious nonsense, sooner than 2038.
henry

Heilbad Heiligenstadt, Germany

#8252 Oct 5, 2012
Dak-original wrote:
<quoted text>
Henry, you are nihilistic and atheist! I suppose you are then also subscribe to existentialist philosophy?!!
I do believe in concept of GOD but then it is just a belief, and not truth! I also believe in spirituality. For many tens of thousands years humans evolved while believing in suprnatual and spirtual matters.
Most educated people are atheists.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#8253 Oct 5, 2012
JATT wrote:
Well i hope we do get rid of this superstitious nonsense, sooner than 2038.
That would be nice, but the majority of people are simply not very smart. That is almost a prerequisite for theism's flourishing. That education through the internet is so readily available, will in time, change to a great degree these demographics. Still even with this, for some willful stupidity is safety itself, and they will not be enlightened.
Jacktheladat1

Sheffield, UK

#8254 Oct 5, 2012
henry wrote:
<quoted text>
Most educated people are atheists.
A good education is what is obviously lacking judging by the number of poor souls who cannot see that the matter which their bodies are made from will be recycled into nature, EXACTLY the same as ANY OTHER matter. I've asked for a logical explanation to oppose the above, only to be told I'm nuts and clueless. Therefore, I'll ask once again those who are NOT nuts & clueless, WHERE does YOUR bodily elements and molecules go after your death? Simple question. Why not offer a simple LOGICAL response, without citing any religion or religious readings/doctorings or similar unproven argument?

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#8255 Oct 5, 2012
Not in UK.

UK will be under sharia law by 2038.
dafa

Toronto, Canada

#8256 Oct 5, 2012
the difference between humans and animals is abstract thinking and immagination and religion is just one of the manifestations of it. religion might change or evolve like it's been happening since the beggining of time but for it to disappear would be going against how the human brain has evolved and is wired. just look at atheists, many of them are ready to argue and defend and many times even try to impose their supposed lack of religion on others. is that not the same behaviour that religious people engage in ?
Brit Expat

Montpellier, France

#8257 Oct 5, 2012
Well, I'm 81 and could'nt give a shit. If Atheism/common sense dos'nt replace religous nonsense quite soon, the human monkey will be toast!

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#8258 Oct 5, 2012
Alexey25 wrote:
Not in UK.
UK will be under sharia law by 2038.
Er, you're wrong, you know.

Tell you what, why don't you show me your sources for your views. That's not too difficult, is it? Show me the reports which support your views buttressed by expert opinion and evidence.

You show me your sources and I'll show you mine. Here's your chance to show everyone that you're not simply scaremongering through your own ignorance. I can't say fairer than that.

I know, I know. I'm way too fair for my own good.

I'll post my sources shortly. I await yours.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#8259 Oct 5, 2012
Alexey25 wrote:
Not in UK.
UK will be under sharia law by 2038.
Don't believe all that you read in the newspapers.

Why don't you check out the U.S. National Intelligence Council which produced a detailed report mapping the future?

http://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Global%20T...

Page 19 shows the in-depth methodology used in compiling the information, which you will find , if you bother reading it, is far more detailed and extensive than the views of a scaremongering newspaper reporter.

The report provides various different scenarios with the worst one showing the number of Muslims in Europe increasing from roughly 20 million today — about 5 percent of the population to 38 million by 2025. Even if those figures are accurate it would only mean about 8% of Europe would be Muslim.

I guess you believe that all 8% will be fundamentalists. Of course, you'll be wrong and the real percentage of fundamental Muslim radicals would be miniscule.

For us to be overrun by Muslims would require breeding on a scale never seen in history and for immigration to continue at a pace that's now politically and economically unacceptable.

Given the current economic climate, it's safe to say that new controls will slow Muslim immigration. The birthrate for Muslim immigrants is also likely to continue to decline, as it has tended to do, with greater affluence and better health care. There is no Europe wide data available, but one study says fertility rates among Turkish-born women in the Netherlands fell from 3.2 in 1990 to 1.9 in 2005, barely above the figure for native-born Dutch. Over the same period, the equivalent figure for Moroccan-born women in the Netherlands dropped from 4.9 to 2.9.

http://www.demographic-research.org/Volumes/V...

Your scaremongering also implies that Islam is a united front acting in harmony with all its followers on the warpath to creating UKistan. The truth is that there are no powerful Muslim political movements in Europe, either continent wide or at the national level, and the divisions that separate Muslims worldwide, most obviously between Sunnis and Shiites, are apparent in Europe as well.

Ok, your turn now.

Let's see your sources.

The floor is yours..........

Since: Mar 11

United States

#8261 Oct 5, 2012
We have many wonderful works of art, poetry, stories, music without religion in fact most of the greatest are non religious.

All religion does is prove superstition and we see that even in pigeons.

You fail.
dafa wrote:
the difference between humans and animals is abstract thinking and immagination and religion is just one of the manifestations of it. religion might change or evolve like it's been happening since the beggining of time but for it to disappear would be going against how the human brain has evolved and is wired. just look at atheists, many of them are ready to argue and defend and many times even try to impose their supposed lack of religion on others. is that not the same behaviour that religious people engage in ?
Brit Expat

Montpellier, France

#8262 Oct 5, 2012
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't believe all that you read in the newspapers.
Why don't you check out the U.S. National Intelligence Council which produced a detailed report mapping the future?
http://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Global%20T...
Page 19 shows the in-depth methodology used in compiling the information, which you will find , if you bother reading it, is far more detailed and extensive than the views of a scaremongering newspaper reporter.
The report provides various different scenarios with the worst one showing the number of Muslims in Europe increasing from roughly 20 million today — about 5 percent of the population to 38 million by 2025. Even if those figures are accurate it would only mean about 8% of Europe would be Muslim.
I guess you believe that all 8% will be fundamentalists. Of course, you'll be wrong and the real percentage of fundamental Muslim radicals would be miniscule.
For us to be overrun by Muslims would require breeding on a scale never seen in history and for immigration to continue at a pace that's now politically and economically unacceptable.
Given the current economic climate, it's safe to say that new controls will slow Muslim immigration. The birthrate for Muslim immigrants is also likely to continue to decline, as it has tended to do, with greater affluence and better health care. There is no Europe wide data available, but one study says fertility rates among Turkish-born women in the Netherlands fell from 3.2 in 1990 to 1.9 in 2005, barely above the figure for native-born Dutch. Over the same period, the equivalent figure for Moroccan-born women in the Netherlands dropped from 4.9 to 2.9.
http://www.demographic-research.org/Volumes/V...
Your scaremongering also implies that Islam is a united front acting in harmony with all its followers on the warpath to creating UKistan. The truth is that there are no powerful Muslim political movements in Europe, either continent wide or at the national level, and the divisions that separate Muslims worldwide, most obviously between Sunnis and Shiites, are apparent in Europe as well.
Ok, your turn now.
Let's see your sources.
The floor is yours..........
Just a comment, I'm English and an Atheist. I've lived in france for over 20 years. "Paris is not France"! Just as "London is not England" All the people I have ever met are French first and thier religion is thier own business, secondry to being French. No problems! A true paradice of live and let live.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#8263 Oct 5, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Today most human atrocities are carried out in the name of Allah.
<quoted text>
The world was not created today?

If you do not know what happened yesterday, your knowledge will be imperfect.

And you cannot predict about tomorrow.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#8264 Oct 5, 2012
RP wrote:
1.

"A Christian is a person who wants to give up great things in a real life for mediocre things in an imaginary one. More importantly, they demand you do the same." ~ Samuel Clemens

2.

"Isn't it a remarkable coincidence almost everyone has the same religion as their parents? And it always just happens to be the right religion. Religions run in families. If we'd been brought up in ancient Greece we would all be worshiping Zeus and Apollo. If we had been born Vikings we would be worshiping Wotan and Thor. How does this come about? Through childhood indoctrination." ~ Richard Dawkins
Ans.

01. Such are "idealistic definition" that have nothing to do with real concept of Christianity. In practical terms a Christian is a person, who believes in Trinity, and that Jesus died for his sins, and does not consider any possibility that a Prophet of God can come after Jesus. So he has made his mind shut.

02. It is con correct to say that every one follows the religion of his parents.

If that was the case, their would not be a Single Christian in the world!!

Did not the disciples of Jesus and earliest Christians left the religion of their parents and accepted new religion?

People have been continuously changing their religions and that trend has never stopped fully, but it has been slowed down.

The comments by Richard Dawkins are very superficial and valid for a specific stage in the life of established religions of the world.

“God=Registered Sex Offender!”

Since: Jul 12

Flower Mound, TX

#8265 Oct 5, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. Such are "idealistic definition" that have nothing to do with real concept of Christianity. In practical terms a Christian is a person, who believes in Trinity, and that Jesus died for his sins, and does not consider any possibility that a Prophet of God can come after Jesus. So he has made his mind shut.
Liar! The only reason you lie about TRUE Christians is because you are unsaved trash and you need to accept the atoning death of Christ and abandon the FALSE preachings of the Devil's own Islamic cult. I am a TRUE Christian and I am a prophet of God! EVERY Christian who is a TRUE Christian and speaks regularly in tongues, through the power of the Holy Spirit, IS A PROPHET OF GOD! My obese, buckshot-in-the-gums, pastor is a prophet. The church janitor with unpaid child support is a prophet. The 12-bucks-an-hour secretary who denies evolution is a prophet. The bus driver who locks himself in a prayer closet is a prophet...EVERY TRUE Christian is a prophet! Jesus Christ was not a "Prophet". Jesus Christ IS GOD born of FLESH...Here, educate yourself:

http://youtu.be/pWPbywYHbEA

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